BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: How does race play a role in any government being a complete and total catastrophe? If you think it does, you are the racist. It doesn't. There is only one letter in Trump's tweet that indicates bias. Hint: it's the letter e. That bias could be considered ideological, nationalistic or xenophobic but hardly racist if you're being truthful. The problem is those other words don't trigger enough people so the inaccurate word racist is a must. You accused me of deflection earlier but commies like you use it regularly. When they are criticized, let's talk about a progressive's race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or any other singular point of emphasis and use it to deflect. Deflect away from the fact that their ideology fails. Deflect toward the fact that every person has flaws but that those who disagree with the ideology must have their flaws pointed out and used to advance the failed ideology. Trump was certainly inarticulate and inaccurate in his tweet. He was also correct about ideologies that always fail. But by all means I suppose we should focus on how polite someone is when deciding the ideology that will define our future. Then we should let commies define what is polite. That'll work. Careful you don't break your back bending it backwards to overlook Trump's behavior. I rarely talk race. The left plays the card far too often and it's divisive and stupid. America gives a better opportunity than most places for people of all races. And AOC is a poster child for divisive race talk. The absolute worst. That said, call Trump out when he says something racist. "Inarticulate" and "inaccurate" are cute word choices. Let's go with racist instead. He's done a lot of good things thus far in his presidency. But it doesn't mean he can't also say racist things and be called for it when he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Careful you don't break your back bending it backwards to overlook Trump's behavior. I rarely talk race. The left plays the card far too often and it's divisive and stupid. America gives a better opportunity than most places for people of all races. And AOC is a poster child for divisive race talk. The absolute worst. That said, call Trump out when he says something racist. "Inarticulate" and "inaccurate" are cute word choices. Let's go with racist instead. He's done a lot of good things thus far in his presidency. But it doesn't mean he can't also say racist things and be called for it when he does. What race was Trump biased against in his tweet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: What race was Trump biased against in his tweet? The brown Americans he told to go back to their home countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: What race was Trump biased against in his tweet? i don't know, what country does he want dark skinned American citizens to go back to? He's such an idiot. So so glad he stepped in and United the Democrats again though! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: The brown Americans he told to go back to their home countries? What race is that? How many races are there? Edited July 15, 2019 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: What race is that? I’ve spent a bit of time by the pool these last few weeks. I’m browner than I was in May. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Trump is a big meanie and a poopie-head. And now the whole country is talking about the face of the Democratic socialist party, and good ole Nancy had to support those lovely ladies. ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: What race is that? How many races are there? Dodge and weave buddy dodge and weave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve spent a bit of time by the pool these last few weeks. I’m browner than I was in May. Does that count? You'll need to ask a commie arbiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: i don't know, what country does he want dark skinned American citizens to go back to? He's such an idiot. For once we agree. 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So so glad he stepped in and United the Democrats again though! Thanks! But now we don’t again. Phew. I wish the Dems would follow Trump’s advice and export the AOC arm including Bernie and Warren back to their home country of Socialist-stan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: Dodge and weave buddy dodge and weave. It really should have been an easy question to answer. What race? You haven't answered because he didn't criticize a race. He criticized an ideology. He did so in the wrong way but that doesn't make the ideology magically viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: For once we agree. But now we don’t again. Phew. I wish the Dems would follow Trump’s advice and export the AOC arm including Bernie and Warren back to their home country of Socialist-stan. The Democratic voters are doing that now! Political parties are big tents. For every AOC the Dems have, the GOP has a Louie Gomert spewing incredibly stupid dribble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, 4merper4mer said: It really should have been an easy question to answer. What race? You haven't answered because he didn't criticize a race. He criticized an ideology. He did so in the wrong way but that doesn't make the ideology magically viable. No he told 4 Americans to go back to their home country. Weaving and dodging. It’s OK to like a guy who makes racist statements buddy. Just don’t defend it as inaccurate and inarticulate. Uncle Donald let loose one of his racist remarks. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Dodgeball superstars and Monet-like basket weavers in this thread The trumpanzees will defend him until the day they die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The Democratic voters are doing that now! Political parties are big tents. For every AOC the Dems have, the GOP has a Louie Gomert spewing incredibly stupid dribble. Battling against socialist ideology is different than calling out the racist statements by an old white guy. One is a much bigger deal. The Dems are engrossed in socialist rhetoric right now and it’s a big problem for America. I could probably vote for 2 Dem candidates right now, at most, and they should want my vote. Guys like you will vote for any of them. Just now, McGee Return TD said: Dodgeball superstars and Monet-like basket weavers in this thread The trumpanzees will defend him until the day they die What will Hedges do now? I posted twice in the same minute. Archive the evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I'm still trying to figure out the "racist" part of these tweets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: i don't know, what country does he want dark skinned American citizens to go back to? He's such an idiot. So so glad he stepped in and United the Democrats again though! Thanks! The Democrats are anything but united. One would argue that they keep getting weaker and weaker as some will no doubt stay home on Election Day 2020 because their candidate got kicked to the curb. The future of the Democratic Party is in doubt and that is no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: Battling against socialist ideology is different than calling out the racist statements by an old white guy. One is a much bigger deal. The Dems are engrossed in socialist rhetoric right now and it’s a big problem for America. I could probably vote for 2 Dem candidates right now, at most, and they should want my vote. Guys like you will vote for any of them. Biden is leading by a wide margin, right now. Dems will vote for who they think can win. It's a political primary so it will of course bring out all sorts of ideas. But really, the socialists are not winning even in the Democratic primary. How do you get "engrossed" out of that, I'm not sure. 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: The Democrats are anything but united. One would argue that they keep getting weaker and weaker as some will no doubt stay home on Election Day 2020 because their candidate got kicked to the curb. The future of the Democratic Party is in doubt and that is no joke. You are Mr. Wishful thinking! Lol, Trump is firing up the Democratic base! Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: No he told 4 Americans to go back to their home country. Weaving and dodging. It’s OK to like a guy who makes racist statements buddy. Just don’t defend it as inaccurate and inarticulate. Uncle Donald let loose one of his racist remarks. It happens. Four? What part of his tweet said four? Or is that something you define? 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Biden is leading by a wide margin, right now. Dems will vote for who they think can win. It's a political primary so it will of course bring out all sorts of ideas. But really, the socialists are not winning even in the Democratic primary. How do you get "engrossed" out of that, I'm not sure. Biden is clearly a racist but B Mind won't call that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Four? What part of his tweet said four? Or is that something you define? Biden is clearly a racist but B Mind won't call that out. How is Biden a racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How is Biden a racist? I'm sure if you pay enough attention you can up with at least seven to eleven reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Biden is leading by a wide margin, right now. Dems will vote for who they think can win. It's a political primary so it will of course bring out all sorts of ideas. But really, the socialists are not winning even in the Democratic primary. How do you get "engrossed" out of that, I'm not sure. You are Mr. Wishful thinking! Lol, Trump is firing up the Democratic base! Love it! You can kid yourself but don't kid the rest of us. Most SJW Dems just see this as another day at the office for Trump so what little emotion was run up will fade by this afternoon. Dems will get mad and stay home if they were backing Harris, Biden, Sanders as only one candidate can prevail. What I hear is some are willing to write off 2020 to set the party on the course that they desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: The brown Americans he told to go back to their home countries? This is actually the most offensive post here regarding this topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Not sure what context is lost at all. I do believe Trump is flesh and blood like the rest of us, and he makes mistakes and has deep character flaws. It’s okay to say that and still believe in his policies Confused on this post. I've been reading through the various replies and this is among the most salient points I've read. I was a reluctant Trump supporter, found his approach by Tweet unsettling when he was first elected (I was horrified when he tweeted that Obama wiretapped him, thinking a president should not say that sort of this without proof), but history has shown that on many of those "WTF!" moments he was on point and often ahead of the curve. On this most recent firestorm, it is what it is. He chose to send a tweet that was sloppy in regards to who is from where and which country, and I can understand his detractors seeing evidence of hatred or racism in his remarks. I do the same thing, actually, and see remarks like Nancy Pelosi's "MAGA really means make America white again" as incredibly divisive race-1baiting language that reflects poorly on her and her motives. I think that language is dangerous, destructive and intended to rile her base, which includes the same type of hateful thugs that will lie/cheat/steal/destroy and kill to further their cause as you see on the right. The thing about Pelosi v Trump is while Trump seems impetuous and less than artful (by design or not), I think Pelosi, Biden, Harris, Clinton, Schumer etc think through what they are going to say, focus group it for maximum effect and send out exactly what they mean. In fact, the common theme from our political leaders is to demonize the other party at all costs. So given the flesh and blood of us all, you wanted feedback. I'm happy to give mine, but what are your thoughts on the other side? Do you have the same questions on the Pelosi for Prez board at another site? Or the "Biden for Prez All hands on deck" site? Or, have you accepted the narrative that trump is the first flesh and blood individual who hates everyone and everything ever created in the history of the world? I'm looking at the totality of 45s Presidency thus far and see little in the way of institutionalized racist policies and in fact, see quite a bit of positive data for all who want to contribute and work for their own slice of the American dream. Unlike some of the others posters here who's views I respect (you're in that group), I wouldn't say whether Pelosi is a racist or not. How would I know what's in her heart, who she pals around with and how she treats everyday Americans. Some dems seem to think she is, and given their experiences maybe she fits the mold. I do think that while a person guilty of violence against someone for who they are is vile, I am quite certain I have no respect for the second spitter off in the shadows goading them on with rhetoric like "That guy hates you people.". While guy #1 is often ruled by emotion/rage/hate, person #2 is calculating and reflects a darkness that's hard for me to understand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: at some point ya call a cigar a cigar...he has tweeted racist things for three years..this one possibly the most blatant " brown people are not part of my America"..go back from where you came"! You always claim people with TDS cant see the forest for the trees, and it sure seems that goes both ways. If you cannot see this as a racist, baiting tweet, and call him out for it, i am lost. This is just pure red meat to his base, and if posting racist tweets is okay as a political strategy i think we have truly entered the 4th circle..and this guy is driving us there I’m tripping on the irony of the fact that your inaccurate paraphrase has 100% more race mentions then the original text.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I'm still trying to figure out the "racist" part of these tweets. Trump certainly didn't stick the landing here. The "go back to where you came from" comment was never gonna be interpreted as anything other than extreme racism by those with TDS. Classic Trump Twitter diarrhea. It's basically an outrage sequel to the shithole country comment. These women believe that socialist shithole countries are Utopia's, and he wants them to put their money where their mouth is and go fix them. They won't because they are shitholes and would never want to lose all the freedoms and luxuries they have here. He criticized people he thinks are stupid and since the left only reduces people to their skin color, he's a racist. Remember, just last week Pelosi was a racist for disagreeing with them until the Congressional Black Caucus smacked them down. Edited July 15, 2019 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Trump certainly didn't stick the landing here. The "go back to where you came from" comment was never gonna be interpreted as anything other than extreme racism by those with TDS. Classic Trump Twitter diarrhea. It's basically an outrage sequel to the shithole country comment. These women believe that socialist shithole countries are Utopia's, and he wants them to put their money where their mouth is and go fix them. They won't because they are shitholes and would never want to lose all the freedoms and luxuries they have here. He criticized people he thinks are stupid and since the left only reduces people to their skin color, he's a racist. Remember, just last week Pelosi was a racist for disagreeing with them until the Congressional Black Caucus smacked them down. That just means that the CBC is also racist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 This faction is going to drain off at least half of the energy and attention of the 2020 campaign for the Dem Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: This is actually the most offensive post here regarding this topic. He is just projecting his own racism. If he can twist things to make it look racist, then he does not feel so bad about being racist himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 After years of the left invoking "Whitey bad", I don't think 'racist' carries the same weight it used to with rational thinking people. The professional outrage mob has made people numb to it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 12 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Trying to understand your post..are you saying "brown people go back to whence you came from"is good political strategy? 11 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: at some point ya call a cigar a cigar...he has tweeted racist things for three years..this one possibly the most blatant " brown people are not part of my America"..go back from where you came"! You always claim people with TDS cant see the forest for the trees, and it sure seems that goes both ways. If you cannot see this as a racist, baiting tweet, and call him out for it, i am lost. This is just pure red meat to his base, and if posting racist tweets is okay as a political strategy i think we have truly entered the 4th circle..and this guy is driving us there 11 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: so you really think a POTUS telling brown people who oppose his views to " go back where you came from" is what MAGA stands for? 3 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: “Aww shucks that’s just Trump being Trump. Wacky guy. “ Says DR. “What’s a little blatant anti-brown people talk from the president?” Personally, I can’t stand AOC and her re-elect Trump gang. But it’s not because I’m racist. Trump on the other hand decided race was the way to go. He didn’t misspeak. He wasn’t subtle. Just went for it. I’ve not called his statements racist or dog whistling before, but this one leaves no room for discussion. billsChan won’t care. He’s the (meaning now changing?) white knight. See last 3 pages. 2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said: When he does something inarguably offensive, “Hillary” is the response. billsChan has a narrative to follow. This tweet won’t matter to the base. He’s gone after POWs for being prisoners and gold star families. A shot at brown folks won’t move the needle. 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: The brown Americans he told to go back to their home countries? 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: i don't know, what country does he want dark skinned American citizens to go back to? He's such an idiot. So so glad he stepped in and United the Democrats again though! Thanks! Dont worry guys, I’ve created an anthology of all the posts and comments in this thread that directly reference skin color... now we can really see who the racists are. Obviously trumps tweet is quoted because it directly speaks of skin color and other race based qualifiers... wait... *****. I don’t know what happened.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 #MAGA Morons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, McGee Return TD said: #MAGA Morons His full quote was likely "I don't want to say that on the record, Acosta, because you're a biased left-wing agitator posing as a journalist, enabled by your biased left-wing network, and you'll find a way to twist my words against me and against the President." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Quoting the Jim Acosta book to make your point about Trump ? at least they'll be no more complaints about, some of, the sources of articles I post now..................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Quoting the Jim Acosta book to make your point about Trump ? at least they'll be no more complaints about, some of, the sources of articles I post now..................... Wow, this coming from someone that literally posts fake news AND quotes from Donald Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I'm still trying to figure out the "racist" part of these tweets. The part that says "Donald J. Trump" with a racist blue check. #OrangeManBad 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: The future of the Democratic Party is in doubt and that is no joke. In reality, this isn't any different than where the GOP was in 2009ish. The Democrats will eventually bounce back. The pendulum of American politics will swing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Koko78 said: The part that says "Donald J. Trump" with a racist blue check. #OrangeManBad Well, his racism is much worse when he is simply scapegoating immigrants as criminals rapists and drug dealers, but hey, play word games if you want. Did you see him say most of the asylum seekers are just criminals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Thread / food for thought: https://mobile.twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/1150751809788612608 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Well, his racism is much worse when he is simply scapegoating immigrants as criminals rapists and drug dealers, but hey, play word games if you want. Did you see him say most of the asylum seekers are just criminals? How do you know they aren’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, KRC said: He is just projecting his own racism. If he can twist things to make it look racist, then he does not feel so bad about being racist himself. You’re better than this Ken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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