DC Tom Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Lots of talk about the new asylum standards released today... ...oh, wait, everyone's ignoring that. All the talk is about Trump's tweets. 17 hours ago, DC Tom said: Every time he tweets like this, the first question I ask is "What is he distracting attention from?" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Is she claiming that she's received death threats because of Trump's tweet? No? The week is young... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/13/opinion/sunday/scaling-wokeback-mountain.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ? Democrats: working every day to ensure all Americans can thrive and prosper by spending countless hours pointing fingers and standing in useless judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Democrats: working every day to ensure all Americans can thrive and prosper by spending countless hours pointing fingers and standing in useless judgement. I am crying... he has them jumping in so many directions they have no idea what to do. But it is nice to see they are all one big party coalescing under the umbrella of Democratic Socialism. That will make for some interesting voting choices in 2020. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ? A little tough when she couldn't offer a resolution on just anti-semitism in her own party. Why, it's almost as if the Congressional perspective on offensive speech is a mere partisan football to be punted when your side is in the wrong. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Lots of talk about the new asylum standards released today... ...oh, wait, everyone's ignoring that. All the talk is about Trump's tweets. I saw that too... it’s an interesting theory... he knows the news cycle is going to paint him in a negative light (does it ever not) so he builds a rabbit hole for the dems to fall into on the way to the true story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It is kinda funny if you read this thread going back a few pages. There seems to be three camps: 1) "Rayyyyyycccccist" because #OrangeManBad 2) Trump being Trump 3) Higher plan And reading those media articles linked here and elsewhere, the media also are divided into the same three camps. (I am in camp 3 as I think he stirred the pot for a reason.) No real point to this post, just an observation 4. Racist because it's racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: 1) "Rayyyyyycccccist" because #OrangeManBad How about racist because it is racist and vile and not because of of who said it. I mean at some point can anything or anyone on this board does not agree 100% with Trump and not be branded OrangeManBad or TDS? Be the same as brading all Trump sypporters Nazi's . How about we disagree with his some of his ideas, and tons of the way he communicates..and agree with other stuff he has done. Or do we all just have to kneel at the altar of Trump( or the Dems in Tibs case) and be afraid that if criticize or disagree with party/leader, that does not make us weaker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, McGee Return TD said: 4. Racist because it's racist Racist , because it's obvious to me..................................lol Lib argument alright. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, B-Man said: Racist , because it's obvious to me..................................lol Lib argument alright. ? Is that a lib argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I can't wait to find today's presser on video. Apparently, it was a real barn burner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How about racist because it is racist and vile and not because of of who said it. I mean at some point can anything or anyone on this board does not agree 100% with Trump and not be branded OrangeManBad or TDS? Be the same as brading all Trump sypporters Nazi's . How about we disagree with his some of his ideas, and tons of the way he communicates..and agree with other stuff he has done. Or do we all just have to kneel at the altar of Trump( or the Dems in Tibs case) and be afraid that if criticize or disagree with party/leader, that does not make us weaker. That’s really a gross mischaracterization of many on this board who routinely admit when trump does things that are off base- many even who have said they don’t like the flavor of this specific tweet. It’s not blind homerism to argue that it’s not racist, and you haven’t provided a single reason that it is. You bailed out of our other conversation ala Humperdinck and the battle to “The Pain.” And you haven’t logically explained why it’s racist. Just because people are shouting that it is, doesn’t mean it is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: I can't wait to find today's presser on video. Apparently, it was a real barn burner. If you can't wait it ain't hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How about racist because it is racist and vile and not because of of who said it. I mean at some point can anything or anyone on this board does not agree 100% with Trump and not be branded OrangeManBad or TDS? Be the same as brading all Trump sypporters Nazi's . How about we disagree with his some of his ideas, and tons of the way he communicates..and agree with other stuff he has done. Or do we all just have to kneel at the altar of Trump( or the Dems in Tibs case) and be afraid that if criticize or disagree with party/leader, that does not make us weaker. Again, go back to the original three tweets (I posted them several times in this thread) and please tell me what was written that was "racist". I understand you are hearing a dog whistle, but honestly? There simply isn't anything racist in his tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How about racist because it is racist and vile and not because of of who said it. I mean at some point can anything or anyone on this board does not agree 100% with Trump and not be branded OrangeManBad or TDS? Be the same as brading all Trump sypporters Nazi's . How about we disagree with his some of his ideas, and tons of the way he communicates..and agree with other stuff he has done. Or do we all just have to kneel at the altar of Trump( or the Dems in Tibs case) and be afraid that if criticize or disagree with party/leader, that does not make us weaker. In what way is it racist? He doesn’t mention race, or disparage anyone over race, or speak negatively about racial attributes. He doesn’t even do that over nationality, or nation of origin. ”Racism” means something specific. Telling someone to go back to where they’re from (Somalia) if they think America is such a bad place is incredibly stupid politically, and beneath the Office he serves in, but it’s not racist. I mean, for Pete’s sake; I’ve been told to move to Somalia literally hundreds of times over my political views. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: In what way is it racist? He doesn’t mention race, or disparage anyone over race, or speak negatively about racial attributes. He doesn’t even do that over nationality, or nation of origin. ”Racism” means something specific. Telling someone to go back to where they’re from (Somalia) if they think America is such a bad place is incredibly stupid politically, and beneath the Office he serves in, but it’s not racist. I mean, for Pete’s sake; I’ve been told to move to Somalia literally hundreds of times over my political views. Are you sure they didn’t mean move to salmonella, as in, eat raw chicken and die? Seems more appropriate for political dissidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Was Pelosi really stupid enough to make that comment? Please tell me this is a hoax. Hard to imagine she's getting in line with AOC and her shrills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paulus Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Watching this stuff spin the way it does really makes one not want to bear witness. It is remarkable how shameless they have become. Actual instances of racism and bigotry have been cheapened by this madness. Oh well, sometimes it's more enjoyable to join the lunatics... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 The President never mentioned race and he never mentioned them by name in his tweets. He is trolling the Dems and their braindead followers and, of course, they bought it again. So predictable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, McGee Return TD said: Best meltdown ever. Now entering it's third year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, njbuff said: The President never mentioned race and he never mentioned them by name in his tweets. He is trolling the Dems and their braindead followers and, of course, they bought it again. So predictable. He’s just letting them know he is here, in case they forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Best meltdown ever. Now entering it's third year! Do you expect anything less from that person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, IDBillzFan said: Was Pelosi really stupid enough to make that comment? Please tell me this is a hoax. Hard to imagine she's getting in line with AOC and her shrills. Dude, yall are not seeing what is happening... AOC has a lot of support from a particular media, who has a lot of influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I can't wait to find today's presser on video. Apparently, it was a real barn burner. CTH added videos for today's Made in America event. He begins with ... any questions for our great American manufacturers? And the first press question? "About your tweet..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Paulus said: Dude, yall are not seeing what is happening... AOC has a lot of support from a particular media, who has a lot of influence. Hey...personally, I hope they make her speaker of the house. I want nothing but upward mobility for her. The more influential she becomes, the more money she'll make. The more money she makes, the better the chances she will hire someone to teach her how to peel a potato and speak at the same time! Only in America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Hey...personally, I hope they make her speaker of the house. I want nothing but upward mobility for her. The more influential she becomes, the more money she'll make. The more money she makes, the better the chances she will hire someone to teach her how to peel a potato and speak at the same time! Only in America! maybe one day she'll learn how to use a garbage disposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Was Pelosi really stupid enough to make that comment? Please tell me this is a hoax. Hard to imagine she's getting in line with AOC and her shrills. She said it twice in the past few weeks alone: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/08/pelosi_on_census_question_trump_wants_to_make_america_white_again.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, whatdrought said: That’s really a gross mischaracterization of many on this board who routinely admit when trump does things that are off base- many even who have said they don’t like the flavor of this specific tweet. It’s not blind homerism to argue that it’s not racist, and you haven’t provided a single reason that it is. You bailed out of our other conversation ala Humperdinck and the battle to “The Pain.” And you haven’t logically explained why it’s racist. Just because people are shouting that it is, doesn’t mean it is. 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Again, go back to the original three tweets (I posted them several times in this thread) and please tell me what was written that was "racist". I understand you are hearing a dog whistle, but honestly? There simply isn't anything racist in his tweets. It is not a gross mischaracterization, it is what happens on this board routinely. Disagree with a Trump policy, or a Trump communication etc, and be branded OrangeManBad or TDS..Happens to me all the time, no matter how often i agree with him...as soon as i disagree its only cause #orangemanbad. We should have a hashtag on here #Trumpisgod to conteract In terms of rthis tweet being racist. the phrase"they should go back to where they came from" is widely associated worldwide with racist groups and far right groups.. If you believe to be racist statement has to explicitly state the color of someone's skin, then you are right, there is no way Trump will ever say anything racist, nor will anyone in this world for the most part. So these people should go back where they came from, they are dirty, they came here here to breed...all good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, McGee Return TD said: You make sore losing look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, /dev/null said: maybe one day she'll learn how to use a garbage disposal Don't bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: You make sore losing look good. The fact that everything about Trump is winning or losing to the #MAGA cult demonstrates how far up his rear end their collective heads are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: How about racist because it is racist and vile and not because of of who said it. I mean at some point can anything or anyone on this board does not agree 100% with Trump and not be branded OrangeManBad or TDS? Be the same as brading all Trump sypporters Nazi's . How about we disagree with his some of his ideas, and tons of the way he communicates..and agree with other stuff he has done. Or do we all just have to kneel at the altar of Trump( or the Dems in Tibs case) and be afraid that if criticize or disagree with party/leader, that does not make us weaker. Good luck. I can applaud Trump’s many good accomplishments. But you won’t find the billsChan crew attacking him when he goes wrong. Except for the worst they can say, “That’s just Trump being Trump” and “But Hillary...” Objective discussion is not what happens here. Or discussion at all. It’s mostly just grabassery in the (99%) boys lockerroom. Some called me a racist today. That’s someone who I would have thought was above personal attacks. billsChan/PPP bringing out the best in the Buffalo fanbase. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: In terms of rthis tweet being racist. the phrase"they should go back to where they came from" is widely associated worldwide with racist groups and far right groups.. If you believe to be racist statement has to explicitly state the color of someone's skin, then you are right, there is no way Trump will ever say anything racist, nor will anyone in this world for the most part. So these people should go back where they came from, they are dirty, they came here here to breed...all good! No, it really is not. That is the dog whistle only you (and others with have an #OrangeManBad mindset) can hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: It is not a gross mischaracterization, it is what happens on this board routinely. Disagree with a Trump policy, or a Trump communication etc, and be branded OrangeManBad or TDS..Happens to me all the time, no matter how often i agree with him...as soon as i disagree its only cause #orangemanbad. We should have a hashtag on here #Trumpisgod to conteract In terms of rthis tweet being racist. the phrase"they should go back to where they came from" is widely associated worldwide with racist groups and far right groups.. If you believe to be racist statement has to explicitly state the color of someone's skin, then you are right, there is no way Trump will ever say anything racist, nor will anyone in this world for the most part. So these people should go back where they came from, they are dirty, they came here here to breed...all good! The word you're looking for is xenophobic. It's different than racism. And xenophobic is still debatable, but at least it's a better debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, BeginnersMind said: Good luck. I can applaud Trump’s many good accomplishments. But you won’t find the billsChan crew attacking him when he goes wrong. Except for the worst they can say, “That’s just Trump being Trump” and “But Hillary...” Objective discussion is not what happens here. Or discussion at all. It’s mostly just grabassery in the (99%) boys lockerroom. Some called me a racist today. That’s someone who I would have thought was above personal attacks. billsChan/PPP bringing out the best in the Buffalo fanbase. Congrats. So now you know what it's like to be accused of racism, when you don't think you made a racist comment. This is the world that you've been a champion of during your 100 screen name postings. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: It is not a gross mischaracterization, it is what happens on this board routinely. Disagree with a Trump policy, or a Trump communication etc, and be branded OrangeManBad or TDS..Happens to me all the time, no matter how often i agree with him...as soon as i disagree its only cause #orangemanbad. We should have a hashtag on here #Trumpisgod to conteract In terms of rthis tweet being racist. the phrase"they should go back to where they came from" is widely associated worldwide with racist groups and far right groups.. If you believe to be racist statement has to explicitly state the color of someone's skin, then you are right, there is no way Trump will ever say anything racist, nor will anyone in this world for the most part. So these people should go back where they came from, they are dirty, they came here here to breed...all good! Here’s the thing. He didn’t say any of that. He qualified everything he said. You want to make this be about racism, because you just know in your heart that the President is racist, despite there being no evidence, because you need him and his supporters to be racists; which is why what he said was so dumb. It opened the door for exactly this sort of nonsense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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