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‘For real?’ Did CNN’s John King just give away Florida Democrats’ election game? [video]

 

CNN’S KING ON FLA. RECOUNT: DEMS ARE NOW HOPING COURTS ‘BEND THE LETTER OF THE LAW’
‘The hope now for Democrats though is that the court has already shown its willingness to overlook or bend the letter of the law and would do so again’

 

 

 

 

 

I HAD BEEN ASSURED THAT ELECTION FRAUD WAS A MYTH: 

 

Florida Dems planned to use altered forms to fix mail ballots across state after deadline.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ARTHUR CHRENKOFF: An open letter to my American friends, re: your shambolic election process.

I write this not with condescension or glee but as a friend who wants to help. Furthermore, I write as an Australian, from a country, which has always been on the forefront of electoral best practice and thus has much to offer by way of experience and example. In 1856, the state of South Australia adopted universal male suffrage as well as secret ballot as a way to conduct election, the latter reform adopted later that year by Tasmania and Victoria and over the next few years by the remaining states. Throughout the second half of the 19th century, political reformers in the United States and Great Britain would fight – eventually successfully – for the adoption of “the Australian ballot”, as it became known overseas. It is now the international standard. It seems to me that it’s time for America to again look Down Under for inspiration on how to improve its democratic process. Our Australian system is not perfect and it’s not 100 per cent foolproof (what is?) but it has been by and large free of fraud or the perception of fraud and its integrity is acknowledged by all sides of politics as well as the general voting public (voting in Australia is compulsory but I don’t recommend it for the US).

 

What follows is solid advice.

 
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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

It's as though they're trying to stage a coup in Florida, as a tryout for the rest of the country.

Not just those two counties in Florida but something seemed fishy in Arizona too, and I'm not sure what to think of Georgia.

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2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Correct. See how far they can push it as preparation for 2020. 


It is making me sick to my stomach. I have had to step away from the internet. I think there are about 30 "close"  Congressional elections and so far the Dems have "won" nearly 25 with a few still undecided (7). If Vegas gave those odds, the casinos would be out of business. And yet our uninterested (a better word would be complicit) press asks no questions, and instead they meme "every vote should count". All these "found" votes... gimmie a break. 

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On 11/7/2018 at 9:30 AM, LABillzFan said:

 

I suspect you're done posting over here for the time being, but wanted to post this thread from Twitter ffor you.

 

Ignore where the writer is from; Breitbart died when Andrew died, but the points he makes are still very accurate. You even see people responding from Colorado.

 

Click to read all his posts. It helps if you see what's coming...and it's coming to Colorado.

 

 

 

there is a widespread, deeply ingrained cowboy, ag, livestock element here.. Democrats and Liberals will stick to Denver, Fort Collins and Boulder... Conservatives will stick to the Springs, eastern plains and Western slope... much of the State divided by no mans land of mountain towns that most people D/R can't dream of living in.  I hope it doesn't turn into California, but it is does I guess so be it.  There just ins't anywhere Red I'd want to live, but that doesn't mean I dislike the people...thanks for posting...

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20 minutes ago, B-Large said:

 

there is a widespread, deeply ingrained cowboy, ag, livestock element here.. Democrats and Liberals will stick to Denver, Fort Collins and Boulder... Conservatives will stick to the Springs, eastern plains and Western slope... much of the State divided by no mans land of mountain towns that most people D/R can't dream of living in.  I hope it doesn't turn into California, but it is does I guess so be it.  There just ins't anywhere Red I'd want to live, but that doesn't mean I dislike the people...thanks for posting...

 

 

Hi B.

 

My daughter's long standing 'boyfriend, took a seasonal job in a camp near Keystone (near Breckenridge).

 

I'm hoping that he is far enough out of Denver to escape contamination.

 

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1 hour ago, B-Large said:

 

  I hope it doesn't turn into California, but it is does I guess so be it.  There just ins't anywhere Red I'd want to live, but that doesn't mean I dislike the people...thanks for posting...

 

I think this is known in Arizona and Nevada as "Californication"

 

 

31 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

Regardless of who wins what, there's a major problem with no longer having an 'election day', which is the date ALL the votes are counted.

 

Yes and it seems to me that voting via any method needs to take place in much tighter windows of time.  Fat chance of states moving in that direction. 

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Jared Golden, a Marine Corps veteran and Democratic state lawmaker in Maine, defeated New England’s lone House Republican, Bruce Poliquin, on Thursday, just two days after Mr. Poliquin filed a lawsuit to stop the counting of votes under the state’s new ranked-choice voting system.

Mr. Poliquin’s defeat in Maine’s Second Congressional District added to a swell of bad news for northeastern Republicans, who suffered heavy losses on Election Day, and gave Democrats another Republican seat in their takeover of the House.

And it added an intriguing new angle to the nation’s ferment over voting rules and options when Mr. Poliquin, the candidate who was the first choice of more voters, lost the race to Mr. Golden, who won on the basis of being the second or third choice of voters who initially chose two independent candidates who together got 8 percent of the vote.

A spokeswoman for the Maine secretary of state’s office said the results remained unofficial pending certification by Nov. 26. But, if certified, the results would make Mr. Golden the winner of a four-candidate race in which Mr. Poliquin received 2,632 more first-choice votes but failed to reach the 50 percent needed to win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/us/politics/poliquin-maine-loses.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

just keeps getting better and better! 

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22 minutes ago, B-Man said:

.@RepMattGaetz :“When The Final Recount Showed Rick Scott Had Actually GAINED 700 Votes,

 

The Broward Supervisor of Elections Simply WAITED For 2 Additional Minutes Until AFTER The State Submission Deadline Before Submitting Scotts Votes

 

So None Got Counted”

 

I'll say it again:  nooses.

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25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

.@RepMattGaetz :“When The Final Recount Showed Rick Scott Had Actually GAINED 700 Votes,

 

The Broward Supervisor of Elections Simply WAITED For 2 Additional Minutes Until AFTER The State Submission Deadline Before Submitting Scotts Votes

 

So None Got Counted”

 

If they don't get counted, the malfeasance can't be exposed. 

 

This was a dry run for 2020 to see how far they could push it before federal authorities/the public got too vocal about the abuses. 

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1 minute ago, peace out said:

 

Who, specifically, should be hanged?

 

You haven't followed my argument.

 

No one should be hanged in this instance, as I don't believe the law prescribes it.

 

My argument is that the law should be changed to require the death penalty for public officials engaging in election fraud, and others engaging in organized election fraud. 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Any other empty platitudes today, Gary?

 

You asked a question, and I answered it.

 

Why do you insist on being such a detriment to intelligent conversation here?  Seriously.

he's not wrong. i also don't believe it an empty platitude as it is more of a double entendre. no congressman is going to pass that legislation let alone write it up. not picking here, just pointing out the other side of the coin as it were.

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1 minute ago, Foxx said:

he's not wrong. i also don't believe it an empty platitude as it is more of a double entendre. no congressman is going to pass that legislation let alone write it up. not picking here, just pointing out the other side of the coin as it were.

 

It's not that he's wrong, it's that it's not how it was intended.

 

If that's a valid response on an intent forum discussing politics, then it's literally a valid response to anything anyone says here.

 

He intended it dismissively, especially as it fits into the dialogue we were having.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

It's not that he's wrong, it's that it's not how it was intended.

 

If that's a valid response on an intent forum discussing politics, then it's literally a valid response to anything anyone says here.

 

He intended it dismissively, especially as it fits into the dialogue we were having.

 

 

taking into account his prior posting history, I would have to say you are correct. however, there is that old adage that even a blind squirrel ......

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56 minutes ago, B-Man said:

.@RepMattGaetz :“When The Final Recount Showed Rick Scott Had Actually GAINED 700 Votes,

 

The Broward Supervisor of Elections Simply WAITED For 2 Additional Minutes Until AFTER The State Submission Deadline Before Submitting Scotts Votes

 

So None Got Counted”

 

My husband told me about this last night. It was reported on some flakey news site last night, so i didn't believe it. I am glad to see it was true.

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6 minutes ago, peace out said:

Advocating the law should be changed to allow "nooses" in response to a Matt Gaetz tweet is miles away from intelligent conversation.

 

If you weren't so incredibly vapid you'd know I've been making that particular argument for a long time, and not in response to a tweet.

 

I believe that election fraud is one the greatest crimes a government official can commit, as it denies citizens the basic fundament right of self-determination, and essentially returns us to a reality of lords and serfs; and I believe that the penalty for that should be death.

 

Gary, what do you believe should be the penalty should be for government officials conspiring to deny individuals the most basic human freedoms in violation of the law, and without due process?

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55 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

What an *****

 

 

 

Sounds like a B word who thought she was entitled to the job, but only lost it because the man kept her down because she was a strong black woman. Sounds like Hillary: 'It wasn't me who lost the election by being a crap candidate who went on a victory tour instead of running a campaign, it must have been collusion!'

 

Georgia dodged a bullet.

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Scott wins vs Nelson ,  but

 

Broward County was unusual in that it had reported more than 30,400 of the undercount ballots. If they were not miscounted, then the most likely explanation was that they were in fact left blank, possibly because of the way the ballot was designed, with the Senate choices on the bottom left corner of the page, tucked beneath the voter instructions. Many have said it made the Senate race easy to miss.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/rick-scott-bill-nelson-recount.html

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5 hours ago, ALF said:

Scott wins vs Nelson ,  but

 

Broward County was unusual in that it had reported more than 30,400 of the undercount ballots. If they were not miscounted, then the most likely explanation was that they were in fact left blank, possibly because of the way the ballot was designed, with the Senate choices on the bottom left corner of the page, tucked beneath the voter instructions. Many have said it made the Senate race easy to miss.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/rick-scott-bill-nelson-recount.html

 

If you live in Florida, took the time to vote in the mid-terms, and were too unbelievably f'in stupid to find the Senate race on your ballot, then the only response to that is maybe you're too f'in unbelievably stupid to even make yourself a bowl of cereal for breakfast.

 

But nice excuse. Keep running with it. It's much better than "I lost because all the white women did what their white husbands and fathers told them to do." 

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