BringBackOrton Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: The gerrymandered salamander shaped districts were not insane? Good stuff. The conspiracy echo chamber here thought the Rs would keep their majority in the House despite that huge improbability. But forgive them: They had Hillary for the win as part of the master Bildeberg plan in 2016. I think everyone was pretty fair about the chances tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Keep hearing on the various shows this morning that a vote against Kavanaugh is what doomed some the Dem Sens. And I think that dead wrong. I believe it was the absolute joke of the process and the way that all went down that hurt them, not the vote. Am I being naive there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Foxx said: so.... that invalidates what the Dems asked? you're an idiot. And good morning to you! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 20 hours ago, peace out said: Pretty good polling by the 538 team. Congratulations to each of the winners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I swear to God people are stupid everybody's telling me that Trump is in trouble he's going to be impeached and they don't understand how the process works. "He's in trouble." "He won't make it until 2020" "he will be voted out in a year." "He will never survive because the house will impeach him". My God some of these people at work only know the headlines. On another note, 2020 is gonna be tough. Senate exposure on the GOP is high and Trump has to out together a stellar campaign to keep things glued together even if he wins election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: I think everyone was pretty fair about the chances tbh. But if forced to concede that, he doesn't get to use cliches like "echo chamber". That would be tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Keep hearing on the various shows this morning that a vote against Kavanaugh is what doomed some the Dem Sens. And I think that dead wrong. I believe it was the absolute joke of the process and the way that all went down that hurt them, not the vote. Am I being naive there? Seems pretty spot on from my perspective. I think a "No" vote without the charade, pomp and circumstance and complete fabrications would have helped their cause more than what took place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Keep hearing on the various shows this morning that a vote against Kavanaugh is what doomed some the Dem Sens. And I think that dead wrong. I believe it was the absolute joke of the process and the way that all went down that hurt them, not the vote. Am I being naive there? It seems fairly clear that some people are comfortable with the process as it played out. Take an individual with an impeccable record of service and commitment, educated at some of the most prestigious institutions in the world, who has support from some peers on the other side of the political aisle from him...and eviscerate him publically for all the world to see. It stands to reason that some other people would see that as tragic, and vote against the architects of the attempted hit job. The only positives revealed during that entire hearing was that Kavanaugh had the courage to see it through. With all the wins and losses yesterday for either side, it's hard to imagine many of these politicians have that sort of character. And so it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I swear to God people are stupid everybody's telling me that Trump is in trouble he's going to be impeached and they don't understand how the process works. "He's in trouble." "He won't make it until 2020" "he will be voted out in a year." "He will never survive because the house will impeach him". My God some of these people at work only know the headlines. On another note, 2020 is gonna be tough. Senate exposure on the GOP is high and Trump has to out together a stellar campaign to keep things glued together even if he wins election. The hope right now is the Dems go crazy (again), the obstructing Rs have been cleaned out of the House (something like 40+ RINOs "retired"), and that Trump has coattails in 2020. We shall see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, peace out said: Pretty good polling by the 538 team. Congratulations to each of the winners! I'm just glad there were no more right wing terrorist attacks before the election. Hopefully that does not happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Quote Moreover, 74 percent of voters in exit polls said extremist violence was the most important factor or an important factor in casting their vote for the House. Democrats got 62 percent of those who thought it was the most important factor and won, 51-47, among voters who said it was at least a factor. (A mere 16 percent of Jewish voters cast ballots for Republicans for House races, perhaps a sign that they, too, have figured out that Trump’s nationalism and the party’s not-so-subtle anti-Semitic mailers reveal a party not reflective of their values, no matter how much Trump does for Israel.) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/07/republicans-pay-the-price-for-racism-and-xenophobia/?utm_term=.9cacefffaf14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Quote Florida’s felons Amendment 4 passed in Florida, restoring voting rights for convicted felons. That’s both huge from a civil rights standpoint — especially given that such ballot initiatives in Florida need to clear a 60 percent threshold — and from an electoral one. About 9 percent of the voting-age population in Florida is composed of felons, and many of them are racial minorities. That could change elections (probably in Democrats’ favor) for years to come. This is big. All those people arrested for being black will be able to vote from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 hours ago, LABillzFan said: DO IT!!! Looking forward to that Beto/Ocasio-Cortez ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, joesixpack said: No, they empowered exurban and rural voters, whose votes and voices in the eastern half of the state are now rendered meaningless. No conspiracy, just simple math. 1 person, 1.1 votes. That's gerrymandering. The power of the city and population centers was offset by the Senate and the Electoral College at a national level. Gerrymandering, which benefitted the Rs in PA until recently, is a tool that both sides abuse to preserve power. It's not about reducing the influence of population centers (except when those centers don't vote your way). It encourages division and minimizes the chances for independent and moderate candidates. It's a scourge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: I think everyone was pretty fair about the chances tbh. You know what's going to be hilarious? When he starts claiming that I, as the board " ringleader," was wrong in all of my biased, neo-Nazi electoral predictions. (I didn't make any.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Looking forward to that Beto/Ocasio-Cortez ticket... Better bet is Beto/Gillum. Dem kingmakers (Deep State) have to make a big play for Florida. 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You know what's going to be hilarious? When he starts claiming that I, as the board " ringleader," was wrong in all of my biased, neo-Nazi electoral predictions. (I didn't make any.) You are not the ringleader here anymore. You're just a member of the peanut gallery. And there's only one Nazi conspiracy guy here, so don't overuse that absurd strawman accusation. Edited November 7, 2018 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You know what's going to be hilarious? When he starts claiming that I, as the board " ringleader," was wrong in all of my biased, neo-Nazi electoral predictions. (I didn't make any.) Ringleader? At best you are Leni Reifenstahl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: You know what's going to be hilarious? When he starts claiming that I, as the board " ringleader," was wrong in all of my biased, neo-Nazi electoral predictions. (I didn't make any.) But if you had made predictions, they could have been biased and racist so essentially you did make those predictions and you were wrong. Own it, Nazi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: But if you had made predictions, they could have been biased and racist so essentially you did make those predictions and you were wrong. Own it, Nazi! Why do you guys love making up strawmen instead of conversing? I'll be waiting for you to back up your despicable accusation that I called him a racist or Nazi. He's just a guy who comes to call people names...60K posts' worth. What value he brings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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