Chad Kelly arrested & charged with criminal trespassing; Cut by Broncos

[KD in CA]

On 3/20/2019 at 5:25 PM, LSHMEAB said:

Oh, I'm certainly not saying he hasn't done some STUPID things. I'm just saying that people generally aren't thinking clearly(or soberly) when they make these bad decisions.

 

He's gonna have to bust a** to get another shot. I'm just personally all about giving guys (who didn't kill somebody, etc.) another shot. The bleeding heart type if you will.

 

Give him another shot to stop being a spoiled, belligerent, drunk, stupid, a-hole?  

Absolutely.

[#34fan]

7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That was my biggest takeaway too!! He looks ridiculous. 

Eh, Jim was the same way at that age. They just didn’t have cameras everywhere and social media. If they did, he would be looked at differently today.

 

The same?

 

Jim had his ego-related issues for sure, but I beg to differ...  Chad's been a head case since high school.

 

I was referring specifically to JK vouching for Chad (with Elway) to get him on that team.

 

Everyone knows JK wasn't perfect... But Chad's always been off the rails.

 

 

[LSHMEAB]

6 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

The same?

 

Jim had his ego-related issues for sure, but I beg to differ...  Chad's been a head case since high school.

 

I was referring specifically to JK vouching for Chad (with Elway) to get him on that team.

 

Everyone knows JK wasn't perfect... But Chad's always been off the rails.

 

 

Come on man. We've all been blinded by family member's "suddenly seeing the light" etc. I'm not gonna fault JK for wanting to believe in his kinfolk.

[#34fan]

6 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Come on man. We've all been blinded by family member's "suddenly seeing the light" etc. I'm not gonna fault JK for wanting to believe in his kinfolk.

 

That's what I'm saying... -JK vouched for the kid on the strength of his reputation to a fellow HOF'er… Chad then proceeded to blow things in grand style.

 

made his Uncle look like a jerk... -Even with all the crap Jim did in the 80's.

[Kirby Jackson]

54 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

The same?

 

Jim had his ego-related issues for sure, but I beg to differ...  Chad's been a head case since high school.

 

I was referring specifically to JK vouching for Chad (with Elway) to get him on that team.

 

Everyone knows JK wasn't perfect... But Chad's always been off the rails.

 

 

Jim wasn’t just an ego-maniac, he was a problem. I know people hate hearing that but he was. There are zillions of stories of him grabbing women, driving drunk, etc... He was Chad without the social media.

 

Also, he shouldn’t have vouched for that knucklehead.

[NoSaint]

On 3/20/2019 at 7:25 PM, LSHMEAB said:

Oh, I'm certainly not saying he hasn't done some STUPID things. I'm just saying that people generally aren't thinking clearly(or soberly) when they make these bad decisions.

 

He's gonna have to bust a** to get another shot. I'm just personally all about giving guys (who didn't kill somebody, etc.) another shot. The bleeding heart type if you will.

 

Im all for redemption stories. But he hasn’t shown to be an nfl qb. Does he get more shots at it because he also wasn’t a good person in his free time? I hope he does well in whatever comes next but I wouldn’t sign him as a football player.

[LSHMEAB]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Im all for redemption stories. But he hasn’t shown to be an nfl qb. Does he get more shots at it because he also wasn’t a good person in his free time? I hope he does well in whatever comes next but I wouldn’t sign him as a football player.

For sure. My comments regarding Chad Kelly have more to do with his life outside of football. Not a fan of writing off human beings. I don't even think he's a particularly good quarterback. But with the new D leagues, he's probably going to get a shot and I'd like to see that happen. 

[#34fan]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Jim wasn’t just an ego-maniac, he was a problem. I know people hate hearing that but he was. There are zillions of stories of him grabbing women, driving drunk, etc... He was Chad without the social media.

 

Also, he shouldn’t have vouched for that knucklehead.

 

Dude... I hung out with one of his ex's... I've heard scary details I'm sure you haven't... I'm just gonna say it... If you were a celeb in the 80's, you did things

that would be reprehensible by today's standards... Grabbing women and driving drunk? -That's a slow Tuesday in 1988... Not excusing it one bit... -That was how people partied... And don't even mention the yayo… Kelly was a d_ckhead with a strong work ethic who grew into the husband, father, and  HOF'er we know today… He was definitely a process.

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Dude... I hung out with one of his ex's... I've heard scary details I'm sure you haven't... I'm just gonna say it... If you were a celeb in the 80's, you did things

that would be reprehensible by today's standards... Grabbing women and driving drunk? -That's a slow Tuesday in 1988... Not excusing it one bit... -That was how people partied... And don't even mention the yayo… Kelly was a d_ckhead with a strong work ethic who grew into the husband, father, and  HOF'er we know today… He was definitely a process.

Oh we are on the same page then. I was sticking on the mild side but he dude was nuts. He’s an infinitely better person today then he was when he was playing. That’s true for a good portion of that team. 

[#34fan]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh we are on the same page then. I was sticking on the mild side but he dude was nuts. He’s an infinitely better person today then he was when he was playing. That’s true for a good portion of that team. 

 

Agree Kelly was wild, and a bit of an a-hole... But not insane... Chad, IMO, is 100% certifiable...-Needs to be under a doctor's care.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

That's what I'm saying... -JK vouched for the kid on the strength of his reputation to a fellow HOF'er… Chad then proceeded to blow things in grand style.

 

made his Uncle look like a jerk... -Even with all the crap Jim did in the 80's.

 

 

...GREAT call bud.....forget the nine lives crap...this is a high payin' big boyz league......wanna test throwing away millions because of your uncle?......nicely done.....

[#34fan]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...GREAT call bud.....forget the nine lives crap...this is a high payin' big boyz league......wanna test throwing away millions because of your uncle?......nicely done.....

 

Kid has a padded cell and a spit mask waiting for him somewhere... Chad and Winslow Jr. should work out in the offseason.  -Oh wait, its always the offseason for those two.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, #34fan said:

 

Kid has a padded cell and a spit mask waiting for him somewhere... Chad and Winslow Jr. should work out in the offseason.  -Oh wait, its always the offseason for those two.

 

...EXCELLENT analogy my friend....BOTH did their best to sully the family name thinking it earned them MORE lives.....

[The Senator]

6 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

The same?

 

Jim had his ego-related issues for sure, but I beg to differ...  Chad's been a head case since high school.

 

I was referring specifically to JK vouching for Chad (with Elway) to get him on that team.

 

Everyone knows JK wasn't perfect... But Chad's always been off the rails.

 

 

 

Jim had his issues with beer, booze, and blow, but he threw for 5200 yards in his rookie year in USFL.

 

Chad, as you’ve stated, pretty much a head case since childhood.

.

 

[Mr. WEO]

He's a terrible Qb prospect anyway.

 

So...completely not redeemable.  Let him go sell cars.

[End The Drought]

Camp Arm!!!!!

[Doc]

In keeping with the recent signings, sign him and move him to punter!

[QCity]

8 hours ago, #34fan said:

 

 

Everyone knows JK wasn't perfect... But Chad's always been off the rails.

 

 

 

And Jim was the one doing rails.

[Not at the table Karlos]

Just to show a better side of Chad and a little bit of a LAMP lol. 

 

My uncle has Downs syndrome and made friends with Jim after he won a contest to go to Jim's camp in 90. Hes in Jim's book lol. Jim invites him back to camp every year.  But he's made friends with Chad over the years. 

 

Earlier this week my uncle gets a call before he goes to work, its Chad asking if he worked that day and if so he would stop by to visit. Sure enough later that day in comes Chad. 

 

Any time he sees my uncle he goes out of his way to make his day. Brings him onto field when he was prepping for final college season getting a tutorial with Jim and Demore'ea Stringfellow.

 

He may make poor decisions but he does have a good heart. 

Edited March 27, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos
Paragraph bothered me

[JESSEFEFFER]

I do not go out of my way to bash the man.  The people at Ol' Miss felt connected to him and believe in his talent and want him to succeed.   Some like to say it's because his lst name is Kelly that we even mention him.  I say that if he grew up in East Brady or anywhere else other than WNY we wouldn't pay him any attention either. 

 

I think he is a very athletic and talented QB, others want to debate that, but his fundamental problem is that his brain is missing the ability to say no to his worst social impulses whether under chemical influence or not.  He may have "Fear None" on his arm but who he should really fear is Chad Kelly and the damage he has done to his own future.  I hope he seeks some professional help before he seeks another shot at professional football.  

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I do not go out of my way to bash the man.  The people at Ol' Miss felt connected to him and believe in his talent and want him to succeed.   Some like to say it's because his lst name is Kelly that we even mention him.  I say that if he grew up in East Brady or anywhere else other than WNY we wouldn't pay him any attention either. 

 

I think he is a very athletic and talented QB, others want to debate that, but his fundamental problem is that his brain is missing the ability to say no to his worst social impulses whether under chemical influence or not.  He may have "Fear None" on his arm but who he should really fear is Chad Kelly and the damage he has done to his own future.  I hope he seeks some professional help before he seeks another shot at professional football.  

 

 

It's the only reason he is discussed anywhere.  He may have felt "connected" at Ol Miss, but like every other Ol Miss QB not named Manning, he has no place in the NFL.  

[N.Y. Orangeman]

On 3/22/2019 at 7:58 PM, The Senator said:

 

Jim had his issues with beer, booze, and blow, but he threw for 5200 yards in his rookie year in USFL.

 

Chad, as you’ve stated, pretty much a head case since childhood.

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Keep going

[The Senator]

43 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

Keep going

 

There’s more that needs to be said?

 

I’ve already stated, I’d like to see the young man see the light, change his ways, grow up, maybe even revive his career  in the AAF.

 

For Chad, a pro football career seems unlkely, but he’s gonna have to find some way to earn a living, so he’d better clean up his act soon.

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[N.Y. Orangeman]

2 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

There’s more that needs to be said?

 

I’ve already stated, I’d like to see the young man see the light, change his ways, grow up, maybe even revive his career  in the AAF.

 

For Chad, a pro football career seems unlkely, but he’s gonna have to find some way to earn a living, so he’d better clean up his act soon.

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Sorry for the lack of clarity...it was in reference to Jim's conduct.  I also hope he grows up, develops a compass and becomes somewhat functional.

[prissythecat]

13 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I do not go out of my way to bash the man.  The people at Ol' Miss felt connected to him and believe in his talent and want him to succeed.   Some like to say it's because his lst name is Kelly that we even mention him.  I say that if he grew up in East Brady or anywhere else other than WNY we wouldn't pay him any attention either. 

 

I think he is a very athletic and talented QB, others want to debate that, but his fundamental problem is that his brain is missing the ability to say no to his worst social impulses whether under chemical influence or not.  He may have "Fear None" on his arm but who he should really fear is Chad Kelly and the damage he has done to his own future.  I hope he seeks some professional help before he seeks another shot at professional football.  

 

 

Werent you also also excited to see how EJ would do under Rex and Greg because EJ was on his way to being better than Tannehill?

[JESSEFEFFER]

1 hour ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

Werent you also also excited to see how EJ would do under Rex and Greg because EJ was on his way to being better than Tannehill?

Wow, you're pretty good remembering stuff that I don't even remember posting but the Tannehill part seems wrong because I was never high on Tannehill.   Although the aregument may have been that EJ was on par with him (and Carr?)  and did not warrant the permanent benching he got.

 

But, yeah the case can be made that:

 

1) EJ's rookie year was in line with any of his QB peer group.

2) Being pulled after going 2/2 in his 2nd year after just having their offense wrecked by JJ Watt was premature and unprecendented.

3) That Kyle Orton was not an improvement to the Bills offense in any measurable way.

4) That EJ had the best performances in the 2015 preseason games but Tyrod was the choice from the get go and it did not matter.

5) That all of EJ's game appearances since then have been poor to middling.

 

What any of that has to do with Chad Kelly is a mystery to me.

[JESSEFEFFER]

13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

It's the only reason he is discussed anywhere.  He may have felt "connected" at Ol Miss, but like every other Ol Miss QB not named Manning, he has no place in the NFL.  

 

His name is Kelly,  he grew up in WNY and we have been hearing and seeing reports on him since he was a P, P and K participant at the then Ralph.  His St Joes stint, P, P and K competitions, being a 4 star recruit to Clemson, a participant at the UA allstar game, and of course all the times he he got in trouble were all reported on in the WNY media market.  If any of this had happened in other other media pond it would not have caused a ripple here.

Edited March 28, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER

[prissythecat]

2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Wow, you're pretty good remembering stuff that I don't even remember posting but the Tannehill part seems wrong because I was never high on Tannehill.   Although the aregument may have been that EJ was on par with him (and Carr?)  and did not warrant the permanent benching he got.

 

But, yeah the case can be made that:

 

1) EJ's rookie year was in line with any of his QB peer group. 

EJs peer group for 2013 is Geno Smith , Mike Glennon, Tyler Wilson,  Ryan Nassib .   So he did as well as these guys?  Yay?

 

2) Being pulled after going 2/2 in his 2nd year after just having their offense wrecked by JJ Watt was premature and unprecendented.

 

3) That Kyle Orton was not an improvement to the Bills offense in any measurable way.

Didn't the offense actually move the ball with Orton in 2014?  Orton had better completion percentage , QB ratings,  and yards per attempt than EJ that year. 

 

4) That EJ had the best performances in the 2015 preseason games but Tyrod was the choice from the get go and it did not matter.

 

5) That all of EJ's game appearances since then have been poor to middling.

 

What any of that has to do with Chad Kelly is a mystery to me.

The reason for original question was to  point out you like lost cause or no cause QBs =)   

 

[Saint Doug]

I had a dream last night that the Pats signed Chad Kelly and won a Super Bowl with him. 

[JESSEFEFFER]

22 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

Wow, you're pretty good remembering stuff that I don't even remember posting but the Tannehill part seems wrong because I was never high on Tannehill.   Although the argument may have been that EJ was on par with him (and Carr?) and did not warrant the permanent benching he got.

 

But, yeah the case can be made that:

 

1) EJ's rookie year was in line with any of his QB peer group. 

EJs peer group for 2013 is Geno Smith , Mike Glennon, Tyler Wilson,  Ryan Nassib .   So he did as well as these guys?  Yay?

 

2) Being pulled after going 2/2 in his 2nd year after just having their offense wrecked by JJ Watt was premature and unprecedented.

 

3) That Kyle Orton was not an improvement to the Bills offense in any measurable way.

Didn't the offense actually move the ball with Orton in 2014?  Orton had better completion percentage , QB ratings,  and yards per attempt than EJ that year. 

 

4) That EJ had the best performances in the 2015 preseason games but Tyrod was the choice from the get go and it did not matter.

 

5) That all of EJ's game appearances since then have been poor to middling.

 

What any of that has to do with Chad Kelly is a mystery to me.

The reason for original question was to  point out you like lost cause or no cause QBs ?  

 

1) Nay.  See the peer group from the Allen/Wentz thread, page 2 by BuffaloHokie13.   31 rookie QBs from 2011 thru 2018.  EJ is right in the middle.

 

3) Measurable is the wrong word.  Meaningful is better.  PPG or offensive ranking were pretty much the same pre and post EJ benching.  No real reason to pull the plug on a 2nd year, 1st round QB after less than 20 career starts.

 

What any of that has to do with Chad Kelly is a mystery to me.

The reason for original question was to  point out you like lost cause or no cause QBs. 

My answer to this is that EJ was not a lost cause in 2015 when Rex was taking over.  Some predicted it but it wasn't so at that point, imo.  His Bills career died in London.

 

As far as Chad goes, his stock is about as low as could be.  But, entering the 2018 OTAs and training camp, after having rehabbed knee and wrist surgeries and with only a 7th round pick having been invested in him, he managed to get very close to the starting job in Denver.  He had a great preseason.  Now he's got to work his way back up from the bottom of professional football and I suggest it would be greatly beneficial for him to get some professional help before he attempts it.

 

Andy Dufresne: Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

 

Our country is built on redemption.  Some believe in it and some don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[frostbitmic]

Chad is in such high demand that even the AAF doesn't seem to want him.

[Just in Atlanta]

On 10/23/2018 at 12:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Mugshot 

 

 

That was actually my first thought

They need to charge him with having eyes that don’t match. What the ever living hell.