QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: He has a right to be pissed....signs a long term contract and team doesn't have an O-Line or QB BS he has a right to be pissed. He knew BEFORE he signed that contract what the Giants were. You honestly think he didnt know that they didnt have an o-line? He knew what he was getting himself into. He got his money, shut the fk up and play. This is why Deandre Hopkins will always be a better WR, teammate and person than Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 He’s nothing like Terrell Fletcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: OBJ will always sting. Bills fans know the deal. We could have sit pat at #9 in 2014 and picked one of the best WRs of our generation. Instead, we move a ton of currency to get Sammy and Benjamin, and neither can hold Beckham's jock strap. Allen throws some ducks out there , but you know OBJ could scoop those off the turf with one hand! If you think ODJ is the same player on the Bills, you’re living in a fantasy world. For all of his faults, Eli got the ball to him. If the situation was reversed, we would talk ODJ would have lost his mind playing here and Sammy would be a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Unfortunately I live in Jets/Giants country. Talk to any Giants fan about OBJ. They're all sick of his antics and wouldn't mind if he was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, sleeby said: Only bills trolls would care about a jerk face, loud mouthed WR in Buffalo? I think most would be unhappy - in buffalo at least and maybe here as well. Shady, on his way to buffalo, tried to party with girls and learned a quick lesson before he even got here. He has not repeated that mistake. Watkins tried his luck with the prima donna WR tweet one time. . .amd learned his lesson and was then traded. TO even knew enough to keep it together his short time here and was much appreciated for it - still liked here. Buffalo is not braggadicio. We are hard work and get er done rust belt. Fred Jackson is what works here - not OBJ. Prove me wrong. . . Okay. Jim Kelly. Revered in Buffalo. People have conveniently forgotten the number of times he sent Jill to the hospital when he played here. There’s the numerous times he partied with women not Jill and all of the reported times he was a class A jerk to people. Yes, he’s also done a lot of charity work and kept his public image clean, but I’ll never wear his jersey. With that said, I am out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, BarleyNY said: I could not agree more. OBJ is an arrogant jerk, but he’s not Ray Lewis or Ben Roethlisberger. He’s full of himself. Imagine that, a highly talented WR with an oversized ego. If he was a Bill no one on this board would care - except for the trolls - and a bunch would wear his jersey. Disagree. A bunch of us would call him the douche he is. some of us, me included , weren’t enamoured with Watkins when he did much less stupid, but still arrogant , stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Ill Take OBJ, Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell on this team please. Give me all the "pre-madonnas" in fact. As long as they perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Ill Take OBJ, Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell on this team please. Give me all the "pre-madonnas" in fact. As long as they perform. Bro, Much better than Post-Madonnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Disagree. A bunch of us would call him the douche he is. some of us, me included , weren’t enamoured with Watkins when he did much less stupid, but still arrogant , stuff. I don't recall Watkins throwing tantrums on the sidelines and punching things. I don't mind showing passion and getting heated on the sidelines once in awhile. It happens. But throwing tantrums? That's not passion, its immaturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay_Fixit said: Bro, Much better than Post-Madonnas. I can handle pre. But Post-Madonnas are the worst kind of people and deserve to be bludgeoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I played receiver but man, they are the worst. All about them. Plus, how many of these elite receivers actually win? I also blame the media because they devote so much time to a ? like this but ignore guys like AJ Green and Davante Adams. He made 1 freaking catch a couple of yrs ago!! Plus, without those sticky gloves he doesn't make that catch. Imo he shouldn't be paid more than Antonio Brown. As for him on the Bills squad, Allen has enough on his plate without having to worry about keeping ob happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Disagree. A bunch of us would call him the douche he is. some of us, me included , weren’t enamoured with Watkins when he did much less stupid, but still arrogant , stuff. I am sure that’s true, but plenty of people would support that player wholeheartedly. And a bunch more of us would do as you said, but still be happy he was producing. Personally I’d be elated to take a Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson and/or OBJ on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If you think ODJ is the same player on the Bills, you’re living in a fantasy world. For all of his faults, Eli got the ball to him. If the situation was reversed, we would talk ODJ would have lost his mind playing here and Sammy would be a star. We know OBJs trajectory, and it's a gold jacket. Could his output be different on another team? Absolutely, but I think it's safe to say that a player of his caliber would be pretty damn productive in any system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: Haha. In all seriousness. He knew what the situation was and he chose to resign there. It was his decision and now he has to live with it I agree but wouldn't you have been pissed if you were playing last night and Manning couldn't get the ball to you? That's all I'm saying....I don't care that people are getting on me....I can just understand the frustration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: Wait, what's wrong with Antonio Brown's character? He's been a little distracting a couple of times, but he's not in the same conversation as OBJ. He's had his incidents off the field. Some of which are being investigated currently. He's called out teammates in the media. He recorded his coach in the locker room and put it on social media. He's not a great guy by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: They signed a big money LT and drafted the best RB since Adrian Peterson. Two huge investments to make the offense better. He has zero right to be pissed, every team has weaknesses-- he needs to grow up and be a man, start acting like a professional and lead through example and character. He's chosen to take the huge payday, avoid most of camp, throw tantrums, whine about everything and insult his teammates to the media. The people who have the right to be pissed are his teammates and the fans. $18M per year on a $90M contract with $65M guaranteed for a cancer that's getting worse. God I'm so glad we don't have that guy in Buffalo. Right on! plus drafted a G in the high 2nd round. Man up OBJ and learn that when you point the finger, got 3 pointing back at you. All the great players buried on crap teams that have never gotten their propers who have always been good soldiers. JJ Watt with Houston starting Hoyer or Mallet or Fitz then giving Osweiler the big bucks at QB. Aaron Rodgers, he's been carrying that GB team for years with a D that just isn't good enough. Just makes me admire them all the more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, nucci said: I agree but wouldn't you have been pissed if you were playing last night and Manning couldn't get the ball to you? That's all I'm saying....I don't care that people are getting on me....I can just understand the frustration I can understand the frustration but professionalism should be expected. OBJ needs the attention in good times and bad. He acts like child on the sidelines. It's not the type of character that helps anyone in a Giants uniform. Look at Larry Fitzgerald's career. That's a HOF reaume 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I am sure that’s true, but plenty of people would support that player wholeheartedly. And a bunch more of us would do as you said, but still be happy he was producing. Personally I’d be elated to take a Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson and/or OBJ on my team. The amount of cap space he is taking up, the effect he is having on the locker room and the won/ lost record Dont see him as a catch. Bet Gettlemen wishes he had traded him for a couple first rounders and a potential new QB in next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Needle said: I can understand the frustration but professionalism should be expected. OBJ needs the attention in good times and bad. He acts like child on the sidelines. It's not the type of character that helps anyone in a Giants uniform. Look at Larry Fitzgerald's career. That's a HOF reaume Yeah, I get that...one of the many selfish players in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, sleeby said: Buffalo is not braggadicio. We are hard work and get er done rust belt. Fred Jackson is what works here - not OBJ. Culture trumps strategy, right? As long as get some undersized, lunch pail boys who work tirelessly at their craft, we're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Culture trumps strategy, right? As long as get some undersized, lunch pail boys who work tirelessly at their craft, we're good. Why can't we get talented guys that work tirelessly at their craft and support their teammates? Plenty of examples of guys like that around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: We know OBJs trajectory, and it's a gold jacket. Could his output be different on another team? Absolutely, but I think it's safe to say that a player of his caliber would be pretty damn productive in any system. Yup. No doubt he would have light it up with EJ, Tyrod, and Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Culture trumps strategy, right? As long as get some undersized, lunch pail boys who work tirelessly at their craft, we're good. I in no way said undersized and am not even sure what lunch pail boys are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, sleeby said: Buffalo is not braggadicio. We are hard work and get er done rust belt. Fred Jackson is what works here - not OBJ. This is the biggest crock of BS i have ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Needle said: Why can't we get talented guys that work tirelessly at their craft and support their teammates? Plenty of examples of guys like that around the league. I think OBJ works pretty damn hard at being an elite players. "Support their teammates"....well, he made it clear that what they're doing isn't good enough. He may of gone a step too far calling out Eli (he is NYG royalty after all). Look, I think it's all kind of hysterical. This is a talent driven league. You should collect as many HOF type players as you can, assuming they don't beat up their wives or murder people that look at them weird at a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, sleeby said: I in no way said undersized and am not even sure what lunch pail boys are. Lunch pail = blue collar. Less talented but work hard. cause you know that's what wins games, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Yup. No doubt he would have light it up with EJ, Tyrod, and Peterman. Who knows. The whole scenario is fantasyland. At the same time, what if you paired him up with Rodgers or Brees? It's reasonable to say that he'd be even better! As I said, he's trending toward the HOF. I think he'd be a top WR anywhere. It's not like the Giants are some amazing situation. They've had coaching, QB and talent issues for years. Edited October 12, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: The amount of cap space he is taking up, the effect he is having on the locker room and the won/ lost record Dont see him as a catch. Bet Gettlemen wishes he had traded him for a couple first rounders and a potential new QB in next years draft. At this point probably wishes he'd traded him for a case of cheetos and a used paper towel. 7 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: I think OBJ works pretty damn hard at being an elite players. "Support their teammates"....well, he made it clear that what they're doing isn't good enough. He may of gone a step too far calling out Eli (he is NYG royalty after all). Look, I think it's all kind of hysterical. This is a talent driven league. You should collect as many HOF type players as you can, assuming they don't beat up their wives or murder people that look at them weird at a club. The point is, you call them out man-to-man, in a team meeting, to their face. What good does it do fluffing up negative press? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: The amount of cap space he is taking up, the effect he is having on the locker room and the won/ lost record Dont see him as a catch. Bet Gettlemen wishes he had traded him for a couple first rounders and a potential new QB in next years draft. Just curious what people thoughts are on Adam Theilen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: This is the biggest crock of BS i have ever heard. Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, sleeby said: Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Watkins tweet about little people was because he went to Disney world with his family and people basically wished catastrophic injury and ill will at his family. Who cares if McCoy wants to have an all girls party, I sure as hell don't. If you do I suggest maybe stepping back from life a little bit. So its ok for fans to be complete dicks to players but not the other way around, so double standard, got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sleeby said: Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. Keep the hits coming. "Small town", "simple values". You know it's been called one of the more racist cities in the country? Edited October 12, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, sleeby said: Do you not remember shady's invite for women to send him photos so that he might select who to party with when he arrives? Or watkins' tweet about the little people? Not BS - this is a small town with simple values. Keep that crap in Dallas or NY or La or Philly. It shows you grow up in a different part of Buffalo than me. I think the term rust belt is insulting and I think every idiot who talked crap on twitter to Watkins is a little person. I love how a 23 year old football player has to be more mature than 40+ year old adults. 15 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Just curious what people thoughts are on Adam Theilen? He works hard. Real student of the game. Plays the game the right way. Real gym rat. 21 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Who knows. The whole scenario is fantasyland. At the same time, what if you paired him up with Rodgers or Brees? It's reasonable to say that he'd be even better! As I said, he's trending toward the HOF. I think he'd be a top WR anywhere. It's not like the Giants are some amazing situation. They've had coaching, QB and talent issues for years. Eli isn’t great but he gets the ball to his receivers. Receiver is most dependent position in football. ODJ would have lost his mind here and no one talk about him being a HOFer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, DasNootz said: If Kanye West and TO had a love child, the result would be OBJ. ...and a reality show on the Estrogen Network... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The point is, you call them out man-to-man, in a team meeting, to their face. What good does it do fluffing up negative press? None. I don't agree with it. They fined him and told him to shut it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, Needle said: He's had his incidents off the field. Some of which are being investigated currently. He's called out teammates in the media. He recorded his coach in the locker room and put it on social media. He's not a great guy by any means. I'll take him over his QB any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He works hard. Real student of the game. Plays the game the right way. Real gym rat. Guy just cant take losing, love the emotion......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I am sure that’s true, but plenty of people would support that player wholeheartedly. And a bunch more of us would do as you said, but still be happy he was producing. Personally I’d be elated to take a Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson and/or OBJ on my team. Talented for sure, not a lot of SBs between those guys though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: I agree but wouldn't you have been pissed if you were playing last night and Manning couldn't get the ball to you? That's all I'm saying....I don't care that people are getting on me....I can just understand the frustration Ya fair enough. It definitely has to be frustrating for him. I guess I’m saying I don’t feel bad for him as it was his decision to stay there long term. But nevertheless to your point, I can see why he’s frustrated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: . ODJ would have lost his mind here and no one talk about him being a HOFer. Again, it's all fantasyland scenarios, a "hypothesis contrary to fact" fallacy in the flesh. All we know for certain is that he blew out the record books for a few years and is on pace for another great season. HOF talent existed with OBJ since his rookie year, and the Giants didn't need to get super creative to unleash it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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