B-Man Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Democratic Presidential Clown Car Update. “Biden and Warren tie in Iowa, another debate looms, Harris continues to plummet, LBGTCrazy, indestructible Bernie is back on his feet, Yang is the new Ron Paul, and Beto is coming after your church.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I wonder who the Young Turks really want to win, because this will do more harm than good to Bernie. If any of the Leftists were sane they would disavow these endorsements. But they aren't. So, it will be fun to see who gets shackled to these loons as the field thins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hedge said: I wonder who the Young Turks really want to win, because this will do more harm than good to Bernie. If any of the Leftists were sane they would disavow these endorsements. But they aren't. So, it will be fun to see who gets shackled to these loons as the field thins. I don't know who the Young Turks are but endorsing Bernie gives the moderates the ability to distance themselves from them. I only watched bits and pieces of the debate but Bernie looked more energetic and with it than Biden despite just having a heart attack. Harris had the worst debate moment pathetically challenging Warren make a stand with her to bravely say Trump should be banned from twitter for apparently violating the terms of service? Warren had that "is this chick serious" look on her face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Bye, Joe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Bye, Joe. Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Bye, Joe. It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Add them all up and they're not even in Trump's neighborhood. Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm Now that's not what I stated, is it? I know you have several of your second graders already with scholarships to Harvard but you might want to get them tutors in the pesky mathy things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Now that's not what I stated, is it? I know you have several of your second graders already with scholarships to Harvard but you might want to get them tutors in the pesky mathy things. I know exactly what you stated, that's why I was very careful to put "all" in all caps so the evidently illiterate you would understand that the most important point here is that there is more Democratic enthusiasm than Republican enthusiasm... assuming of course that you measure it by fundraising, which is what you folks over here seem to do... errr... I guess... if you want to measure it by polling.... well... Dems have it there, too... Awwwww shux 19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. What I would guess. And then there are those like me who have never given a cent to a political candidate but already knows it's Anybody But Trump, prepared to get behind whoever the Democratic nominee is. Edited October 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Transplant, I compared Trump's fundraising to 4 of your potential candidates. You "refuted" my statement with comparing it with 12 candidates. Being a lunch monitor must have put you in a bad mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Individuals looking to donate to a D candidate could be holding back their donations until a clear nominee emerges, or at least until the race is down to the final three or five participants. That's usually how it goes. It used to be the incumbent had the advantage because they could spend the money for advertising during the fall and summer before the opposing parties convention. Things have changed though as it's much easier to get free advertising that Trump used to his advantage in 2016 despite being outspent by Hillary 2 to 1. Massive fundraising advantages are more important at the local level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's possible. Not the absolute you claim it is. I still think he ends up the nominee. Warren didn't handle herself very well tonight as the "frontrunner" and Sanders just had a heart attack. I really and truly want Mayor Pete, but he's still a longshot. Don't get the obsession with fundraising unless there are consistently wild discrepancies. This is getting kinda funny how enamored you are with Biden. You resemble the Never-Trumpers in 2015-2016. If Biden wins the nomination, will you follow their paths? PS: Since you seem to care and it relates to our bet... 3rd Quarter Fundraising Donald Trump = $125 million Democrats = $135+ million $135+ million for ALL Democratic candidates. Yeah... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm Enamored? Lol ... the dude is hilarious and so cartoonish. Homer Simpson hilarious. Say what you guys want about Trump, my god so many democrat politicians are flat out awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: ... Democratic enthusiasm >>>>> Orange Man enthusiasm yep, keep believing what the propagandists throw at you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Foxx said: yep, keep believing what the propagandists throw at you. That was based on the presumption you guys here make that fundraising equals enthusiasm. Dems are raising more--which is a FACT, not propoganda--so they must have more enthusiasm according to you folks. Edited October 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I know exactly what you stated, that's why I was very careful to put "all" in all caps so the evidently illiterate you would understand that the most important point here is that there is more Democratic enthusiasm than Republican enthusiasm... assuming of course that you measure it by fundraising, which is what you folks over here seem to do... errr... I guess... if you want to measure it by polling.... well... Dems have it there, too... Awwwww shux What I would guess. And then there are those like me who have never given a cent to a political candidate but already knows it's Anybody But Trump, prepared to get behind whoever the Democratic nominee is. Sorry, but the Dems haven’t shown they have ideas that can win a general election. As for your “ favorite” , I don’t believe you’ll see an openly gay man win the White House any time soon. Right now, unless some other candidate emerges it looks to me as though a second Trump term is about 80% likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: That was based on the presumption you guys here make that fundraising equals enthusiasm. Dems are raising more--which is a FACT, not propoganda--so they must have more enthusiasm according to you folks. It's not a fact though, Transplant. Trump has a much bigger war chest to date, the DNC is near broke while the GOP is swimming in funds. But more importantly, the Trump campaign has a huge lead in the digital information collection than the DNC thanks to three years of rally and data harvesting. The DNC is going to get thumped in 2020. And they have no one but themselves to blame. They've had three years to do something, anything, other than protesting an election they lost fair and square. But instead of doing their jobs, they doubled down on resistance. It'll cost them the House and the Oval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's not a fact though, Transplant. Trump has a much bigger war chest to date, the DNC is near broke while the GOP is swimming in funds. But more importantly, the Trump campaign has a huge lead in the digital information collection than the DNC thanks to three years of rally and data harvesting. The DNC is going to get thumped in 2020. And they have no one but themselves to blame. They've had three years to do something, anything, other than protesting an election they lost fair and square. But instead of doing their jobs, they doubled down on resistance. It'll cost them the House and the Oval. The DNC's fund-raising is not directly comparable to the Trump campaign's. Because one's a party, and one's a campaign, and things that are different are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: The DNC's fund-raising is not directly comparable to the Trump campaign's. Because one's a party, and one's a campaign, and things that are different are not the same. But the fact the DNC itself is broke is a HUGE factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: But the fact the DNC itself is broke is a HUGE factor. The fact that they've brought in $7m, and are $8m in debt, compared to the RNC's $40m take and $50m cash-on-hand is huge. The DNC's going to end up having to sell themselves to Hillary again, with the same down-ballot implications as in 2016. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Interesting that a third of Warren's fundraising comes from cash transfers from "ELIZABETH FOR MA, INC." Which has raised $20,000 so far this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IDBillzFan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, KRC said: Single-handedly THE funniest thing the Bee has done...and that's no small feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's not a fact though, Transplant. Trump has a much bigger war chest to date, the DNC is near broke while the GOP is swimming in funds. But more importantly, the Trump campaign has a huge lead in the digital information collection than the DNC thanks to three years of rally and data harvesting. The DNC is going to get thumped in 2020. And they have no one but themselves to blame. They've had three years to do something, anything, other than protesting an election they lost fair and square. But instead of doing their jobs, they doubled down on resistance. It'll cost them the House and the Oval. Uhhhhh... except it IS fact as far as exactly what I said combined with your own consistently proclaimed premises on this board. Are you implying that either the Trump campaign or Democratic candidates have incorrectly reported their 3rd quarter fundraising numbers? If so, who? Any evidence whatsoever to support those inflated or deflated numbers? 3rd quarter fundraising was precisely what I referenced. And you seem to equate fundraising numbers with enthusiasm. And the Democratic party outraised the Republican party in the 3rd quarter. And since you seem to be operating under the premise that fundraising = enthusiasm you should probably at least acknowledge that the Democratic party has more enthusiasm right now based on the most recent fundraising numbers. C'mon now... don't be a hypocrite... you're better than this. @TakeYouToTasker might call you intellectually dishonest if he were being intellectually honest Edited October 16, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Uhhhhh... except it IS fact as far as exactly what I said combined with your own consistently proclaimed premises on this board. Are you implying that either the Trump campaign or Democratic candidates have incorrectly reported their 3rd quarter fundraising numbers? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/trump-campaign-republican-national-committee-raised-125-million-in-the-3rd-quarter-ap-reports.html President Donald Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee will report raising a total of $125 million in the third quarter. The pro-Trump groups, which also include his joint fundraising entities, have raised more than $308 million in total in 2019, and boast more than $156 million cash on hand. That fundraising haul far exceeds the $105 million second-quarter joint total and marks a new presidential fundraising record, according to the Associated Press. (snip) The Republican National Committee’s most recent financial disclosure showed that the organization held $53.8 million cash on hand at the end of August. The Democratic National Committee, by contrast, had $8.2 million on hand at that time. Note the bolded (and all the data). They have more cash on hand than the entire dem field has raised. It's not even close, Transplant. You're being lied to. By the same people who lied to you about Trump/Russia for three years. One day you'll learn to start to think for yourself. 2nd quarter DNC https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00010603/1332087/#SUMMARY GOP https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00003418/1332072/ 3rd quarter was even bigger -- not reported in full yet. 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: 3rd quarter fundraising was precisely what I referenced. And you seem to equate fundraising numbers with enthusiasm. And the Democratic party outraised the Republican party in the 3rd quarter. They didn't though. You're wrong. 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: And since you seem to be operating under the premise that fundraising = enthusiasm you should probably at least acknowledge that the Democratic party has more enthusiasm right now based on the most recent fundraising numbers. I don't acknowledge that -- but if I did you'd still be wrong based on the above. What I acknowledge is the DNC lost its shirt due to poor leadership and are unprepared to fight the battle ahead. Perez is a disaster. He should have been replaced in 2016 -- but they kept him and he sunk the party's financial hopes (because he's crooked). Edited October 16, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Maybe if Joe repeats his "beat him like a drum" line for the 10,000th time, people will actually believe it. Oops, I forgot, Joe is a proven and accomplished liar and grifter. No one believes him or IN him. He's got zero chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Maybe if Joe repeats his "beat him like a drum" line for the 10,000th time, people will actually believe it. Oops, I forgot, Joe is a proven and accomplished liar and grifter. No one believes him or IN him. He's got zero chance. Eagerly awaiting the Babylon Bee story: "Joe Biden Claims 'I never had a son!'" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/trump-campaign-republican-national-committee-raised-125-million-in-the-3rd-quarter-ap-reports.html President Donald Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee will report raising a total of $125 million in the third quarter. The pro-Trump groups, which also include his joint fundraising entities, have raised more than $308 million in total in 2019, and boast more than $156 million cash on hand. That fundraising haul far exceeds the $105 million second-quarter joint total and marks a new presidential fundraising record, according to the Associated Press. (snip) The Republican National Committee’s most recent financial disclosure showed that the organization held $53.8 million cash on hand at the end of August. The Democratic National Committee, by contrast, had $8.2 million on hand at that time. Note the bolded (and all the data). They have more cash on hand than the entire dem field has raised. It's not even close, Transplant. You're being lied to. By the same people who lied to you about Trump/Russia for three years. One day you'll learn to start to think for yourself. 2nd quarter DNC https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00010603/1332087/#SUMMARY GOP https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00003418/1332072/ 3rd quarter was even bigger -- not reported in full yet. They didn't though. You're wrong. I don't acknowledge that -- but if I did you'd still be wrong based on the above. What I acknowledge is the DNC lost its shirt due to poor leadership and are unprepared to fight the battle ahead. Perez is a disaster. He should have been replaced in 2016 -- but they kept him and he sunk the party's financial hopes (because he's crooked). Moving the goalposts I see. So you include all pro-Trump groups rather than just Trump's fundraising himself. Awfully disingenuous on your part if you aren't doing the same for pro-Democrat groups, of which there are many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Moving the goalposts I see. So you include all pro-Trump groups rather than just Trump's fundraising himself. Awfully disingenuous on your part if you aren't doing the same for pro-Democrat groups, of which there are many I didn't move the goal posts. I said Trump's campaign has more money than all the dems combined. And they do. Best part is -- they haven't even really started campaigning yet. The "dem" groups are included in the total. They have far less than the GOP does right now at this stage. Far less. Why? Look at recent SCOTUS rulings as a start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: I didn't move the goal posts. I said Trump's campaign has more money than all the dems combined. And they do. Best part is -- they haven't even really started campaigning yet. The "dem" groups are included in the total. They have far less than the GOP does right now at this stage. Far less. Why? Look at recent SCOTUS rulings as a start. Movin goalposts. But whatever. Over the months it's been about the fundraising itself for you. You brought it up pretty consistently. Now it's about cash on hand, which involves many other factors. What's your reasoning behind cash on hand being so meaningful when these campaigns are constantly raising and using money? How many individual donors have donated to Trump's campaign and what's the average individual donation vs. How many individual donors have donated to Democratic candidates' campaigns and what's the average individual donation That might be meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Movin goalposts. But whatever. Not true. In their totality, the Trump campaign/GOP has more money than the DNC and all 12 candidates. That's not fiction. That's reality, backed by actual facts and figures. 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Over the months it's been about the fundraising itself for you. You brought it up pretty consistently. It's a marker to watch, nothing more. I've never made the argument you're trying to attribute to me. Does having more money always equate to a win? Nope. Never said it did. 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Now it's about cash on hand, which involves many other factors. The "many other factors" are the ones I keep trying to open your eyes to. But I digress... Cash on hand and total fundraising, Trump and the GOP are miles ahead of the DNC. That's the only point I've made. 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: What's your reasoning behind cash on hand being so meaningful when these campaigns are constantly raising and using money? How many individual donors have donated to Trump's campaign and what's the average individual donation vs. How many individual donors have donated to Democratic candidates' campaigns and what's the average individual donation That might be meaningful. I gave you a starting point to see for yourself. Trump's leading in individual donors as well... and unlike many on the dnc stage, he's not relying on suckling at the tit of the MiC, Big Pharma, or the other establishment industries who own much of Congress (including Joe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Movin goalposts. But whatever. Over the months it's been about the fundraising itself for you. You brought it up pretty consistently. Now it's about cash on hand, which involves many other factors. What's your reasoning behind cash on hand being so meaningful when these campaigns are constantly raising and using money? How many individual donors have donated to Trump's campaign and what's the average individual donation vs. How many individual donors have donated to Democratic candidates' campaigns and what's the average individual donation That might be meaningful. How much cash will Dem candidates burn through the primaries? A lot especially if it's competitive. It's one of the reasons incumbent Presidents so often win. They don't have to spend early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Tranny is gonna end up as bitter as exiled and john Adams when this is over ?? DR body count keeps rising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not true. In their totality, the Trump campaign/GOP has more money than the DNC and all 12 candidates. That's not fiction. That's reality, backed by actual facts and figures. It's a marker to watch, nothing more. I've never made the argument you're trying to attribute to me. Does having more money always equate to a win? Nope. Never said it did. The "many other factors" are the ones I keep trying to open your eyes to. But I digress... Cash on hand and total fundraising, Trump and the GOP are miles ahead of the DNC. That's the only point I've made. I gave you a starting point to see for yourself. Trump's leading in individual donors as well... and unlike many on the dnc stage, he's not relying on suckling at the tit of the MiC, Big Pharma, or the other establishment industries who own much of Congress (including Joe). I will give you one thing, your stubbornness made me double check and dig even deeper. I honestly don't know at this point if you believe what you're saying because you got it from what you believe are reliable sources in the Twitter verse or if you're just flat out lying in the endless pursuit I've stated multiple times that you guys have over here of winning a rhetorical argument, but no, most of that post is just wrong. And honestly, I'm a little disappointed it is because I respect you. Democrats have hauled in more money in total and significantly more money from small dollar donors (less than $200) than Donald Trump. 1 hour ago, keepthefaith said: How much cash will Dem candidates burn through the primaries? A lot especially if it's competitive. It's one of the reasons incumbent Presidents so often win. They don't have to spend early. Weird obsession you guys have with these campaign war chests. Frankly, I'm a little surprised at the norms some of you expect to hold up in the midst of all of your "BUT THE WORLD HAS DRASTICALLY CHANGED WITH THE ELECTION OF TRUMP!!!" proclamations. Bizarro world over here sometimes... most of the time. Not all that concerned with Democratic war chests. They will get their money considering the likes of the online Democratic fundraising tool Actblue has raised over $3 billion for the party alone. I just don't understand why you can't see Trump's election was an outlier... You will, though Edited October 17, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I will give you one thing, your stubbornness made me double check and dig even deeper. I honestly don't know at this point if you believe what you're saying because you got it from what you believe are reliable sources in the Twitter verse or if you're just flat out lying in the endless pursuit I've stated multiple times that you guys have over here of winning a rhetorical argument, but no, most of that post is just wrong. And honestly, I'm a little disappointed it is because I respect you. Democrats have hauled in more money in total and significantly more money from small dollar donors (less than $200) than Donald Trump. Weird obsession you guys have with these campaign war chests. Frankly, I'm a little surprised at the norms some of you expect to hold up in the midst of all of your "BUT THE WORLD HAS DRASTICALLY CHANGED WITH THE ELECTION OF TRUMP!!!" proclamations. Bizarro world over here sometimes... most of the time. Not all that concerned with Democratic war chests. They will get their money considering the likes of the online Democratic fundraising tool Actblue has raised over $3 billion for the party alone. I just don't understand why you can't see Trump's election was an outlier... You will, though People are simply pointing out to you that if (BIG if) contributions equal enthusiasm, the Rs are beating the snot out of the Ds. @Deranged Rhino linked to a CNBC article - a media outlet that is traditionally lefty leaning. That article, in turn, leads to the financial filings. At this point, it is quite clear the Rs have a lot more money raised, and on hand, than the Ds. Does that mean much of anything at the polls? For local races it will. For the Presidential race? Who knows. President Trump beat Hillary Clinton without spending the amount of cash she did. Will he out raise the D candidate for the 2020 race? Magic 8 ball says "signs point to yes"... but also "it is not certain". His donations are small, not corporate. Will corporations donate equally to both candidates? Will they favor the Ds? That we will need to wait and see. You are so busy attempting to be right, you are either being disingenuous or you have a real blind spot as to what is happening in this country. "The little people" have had it with being told by their "betters" what to do. Those R donations? Those donations to President Trump? Look at how many are from "the little people", and note it. We shall see in 2020 if those translated to votes. Edited October 17, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: People are simply pointing out to you that if (BIG if) contributions equal enthusiasm, the Rs are beating the snot out of the Ds. @Deranged Rhino linked to a CNBC article - a media outlet that is traditionally lefty leaning. That article, in turn, leads to the financial filings. At this point, it is quite clear the Rs have a lot more money raised, and on hand, than the Ds. Does that mean much of anything at the polls? For local races it will. For the Presidential race? Who knows. President Trump beat Hillary Clinton without spending the amount of cash she did. Will he out raise the D candidate for the 2020 race? Magic 8 ball says "signs point to yes"... but also "it is not certain". His donations are small, not corporate. Will corporations donate equally to both candidates? Will they favor the Ds? That we will need to wait and see. You are so busy attempting to be right, you are either being disingenuous or you have a real blind spot as to what is happening in this country. "The little people" have had it with being told by their "betters" what to do. Those R donations? Those donations to President Trump? Look at how many are from "the little people", and note it. We shall see in 2020 if those translated to votes. *sigh* Trump has raised more than any individual Democrat by far because it's a numbers game. One Republican vs 20 or so Democrats. The 20 or so Democrats outraised Trump. That is fact. Look it up. The finger pointing at cash on hand seems to be a big deal and, frankly, I don't know why. Once the Democratic nominee is sifted out, he/she will get an inundation of money. There are pro Democrat organisations like Actblue that I referenced before that have already raised TONS of money to be used in the upcoming election. But aside from the money obsession, Democrats will get its voters to coalesce around one candidate. This time Democrats will go out and vote for the Democratic candidate rather than stay home or vote for a 3rd party candidate (which was what happened in 2016... BY FAR the highest number of 3rd party votes in history... like 3+ million more than EVER happened) because they saw what it did in 2016. And the majority of Independents will join because the majority of Independents, at this point, want Trump impeached and removed from office. I don't give a dime to political candidates and I absolutely shudder any time ANY political commercial comes on TV. The ads don't influence me at all. Do you think I'm alone? What do you think Trump's money will accomplish? The country leans more left than it does right at this point. Trump is in office thanks to a perfect storm. Maybe you should ask yourself who really has the blind spot as to what is happening in this country. Edited October 17, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 As usual Transplantee has his/her head up its ass and spews opinions and "facts" without providing any kind of backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Maybe if Joe repeats his "beat him like a drum" line for the 10,000th time, people will actually believe it. Oops, I forgot, Joe is a proven and accomplished liar and grifter. No one believes him or IN him. He's got zero chance. Is it me, or does Biden seem to be slowly turning orange? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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