GreatComeback Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Former Bills DC Dennis Thurman has finally found a job as a Defensive Coordinator in Bill Polian’s AAF. If you remember Thurman was famously the scapegoat for Rex Ryan’s incompetence at running the Bills defense. He demoted after the 2015 season and replaced by Rob Ryan who turned out to be worse. Thurman has not coached in the NFL since https://aaf.com/memphis-express-coaching-staff-set-to-take-off/ Edited October 10, 2018 by GreatComeback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He ended up staying on our staff when Rob was brought on - still DC in title, but demoted to an extent. What on earth he actually did aside from drive guys like Schwartz and Donnie Henderson out of town is beyond me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 If only the facts were straight here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 That's not how I remember it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I agree that he was DC in name only, but woundn't call him the scapegoat as everyone knew Rex and the 2nd year Rob were running the D. For the most part don't recall hearing anyone ever try and blame Thruman, everyone blamed the Ryan boys for everything.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, GreatComeback said: Former Bills DC Dennis Thurman has finally found a job as a Defensive Coordinator in Bill Polian’s AAF. If you remember Thurman was famously the scapegoat for Rex Ryan’s incompetence at running the Bills defense. He was fired after the 2015 season and replaced by Rob Ryan who turned out to be worse. Thurman has not coached in the NFL since https://aaf.com/memphis-express-coaching-staff-set-to-take-off/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: If only the facts were straight here. Nitpicking... one small minor error. The majority of the facts were legit Edited October 10, 2018 by GreatComeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: If only the facts were straight here. Which facts? There are many versions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Actually Thurman is a pretty good hire for Singletary and the type of defense he'll want. They also hired Bills former QB coach David Lee (Gailey era). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I agree that he was DC in name only, but woundn't call him the scapegoat as everyone knew Rex and the 2nd year Rob were running the D. For the most part don't recall hearing anyone ever try and blame Thruman, everyone blamed the Ryan boys for everything.. Rex made him the scapegoat by demoting him and relaxing his with Robb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, GreatComeback said: Rex made him the scapegoat by demoting him and relaxing his with Robb. Except he didn't get demoted, he was still the DC and don't recall Rex Thurman in anyway or blaming him for anything. So if he wasn't demoted and never blamed for anything by Rex or most others in the press (everyone knew Rex was in charge) how exactly was he the scapegoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I remember his press conferences. He was funny, in an obnoxious kinda way. Always giving short, smart Alec answers. He always had this shake to him too, as if he had hit the road jack stuck in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Hummm.... guess I won't be seeing him doing Cowboys post game here on local TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, CowgirlsFan said: Hummm.... guess I won't be seeing him doing Cowboys post game here on local TV. I grew up in South Garland in the 70's and 80's when he played cb for the Cowboys..He was a decent cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 David Lee was named their QB Coach. The man is a living miracle. Over 40 years of pro-level QB coaching and hardly a single talented QB to hang on the resume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 This thread is giving me scary flashbacks to when Rob Ryan was here.. Terrible times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, fridge said: David Lee was named their QB Coach. The man is a living miracle. Over 40 years of pro-level QB coaching and hardly a single talented QB to hang on the resume. I thought Romo was his saving grace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, CowgirlsFan said: Hummm.... guess I won't be seeing him doing Cowboys post game here on local TV. Right...as I said above he hasn’t worked in coaching since Rex was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Except he didn't get demoted, he was still the DC and don't recall Rex Thurman in anyway or blaming him for anything. So if he wasn't demoted and never blamed for anything by Rex or most others in the press (everyone knew Rex was in charge) how exactly was he the scapegoat? Rex never blamed him by name but my understanding is the "we know what really happened" comment after the 10 players Miami debacle was aimed at Dennis Thurman despite the fact that Rob was calling the D. Because the Ryans are never wrong. Period. Rob is actually doing TV over here in the UK as Sky's main studio analyst. He did a guest spot last year and they seem to have him back as a permanent feature in 2018. He is pretty good at it in truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Rex never blamed him by name but my understanding is the "we know what really happened" comment after the 10 players Miami debacle was aimed at Dennis Thurman despite the fact that Rob was calling the D. Because the Ryans are never wrong. Period. Rob is actually doing TV over here in the UK as Sky's main studio analyst. He did a guest spot last year and they seem to have him back as a permanent feature in 2018. He is pretty good at it in truth. Exactly Rex was feeling a lot of pressure after the #4 ranked defense took a dive. He obviously wasn’t going to fire himself or his pal Dennis Thurman. But he did bring Rob Ryan on the staff to basically be the defensive coordinator - whether in title or not. By most accounts it was seen as a demotion for Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Scapegoat? They all sucked and got canned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I agree that he was DC in name only, but woundn't call him the scapegoat as everyone knew Rex and the 2nd year Rob were running the D. For the most part don't recall hearing anyone ever try and blame Thruman, everyone blamed the Ryan boys for everything.. The first sign of incompetence should have been when they tried to take all 4/3 personnel & change the D to a 3/4 for being a supposed defensive coach you first have to see the forest for the tree's every one was hyped about Rex but he proved he is best suited for where he is now blowing hot air on TV not on a sideline !! Thurman was nothing but a figure head !! Edited October 10, 2018 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Rob is actually doing TV over here in the UK as Sky's main studio analyst. He did a guest spot last year and they seem to have him back as a permanent feature in 2018. He is pretty good at it in truth. Sounds like that's where Rob should stay. Everyone's good at something, and it ain't coaching D for fat Rob. Beside, he might lose some weight over there when all there is to eat is fish and chips; no chicken wings, no pizza, no barrels of lard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Sounds like that's where Rob should stay. Everyone's good at something, and it ain't coaching D for fat Rob. Beside, he might lose some weight over there when all there is to eat is fish and chips; no chicken wings, no pizza, no barrels of lard. Ha. There is plenty of food to get fat on in London. Rex was supposed to appear on last mid week's round up and discussion show. They trailed it all through the live Sunday show and then when it came to it they go Baldinger on by video link instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Ha. There is plenty of food to get fat on in London. Rex was supposed to appear on last mid week's round up and discussion show. They trailed it all through the live Sunday show and then when it came to it they go Baldinger on by video link instead. Rex was probably a no-show. He doesn't strike me as dependable; kind of like the guy who is fun to go out drinking with, but don't count on when you need something important done. I'm surprised the NFL is even somewhat paid attention to over there in England. Would have thought mostly soccer and rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Rex was probably a no-show. He doesn't strike me as dependable; kind of like the guy who is fun to go out drinking with, but don't count on when you need something important done. I'm surprised the NFL is even somewhat paid attention to over there in England. Would have thought mostly soccer and rugby. Had a decent following in the 80s and has been revived by the Wembley games. If I am honest most of the new crowd are London based and under 35, though it has decent followings in certain other metropolitan cities - Bristol and Manchester in particular. 12 years ago when I moved to London it was incredibly rare to find other NFL fans. Now the last three jobs I have had there have been at least 2 others working in my team. The NFL is helped by not competing with soccer. It is a Sunday evening thing UK time after the soccer has finished. Most, though not all, of the NFL fans I know are big soccer guys as well. Edited October 10, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, T master said: The first sign of incompetence should have been when they tried to take all 4/3 personnel & change the D to a 3/4 for being a supposed defensive coach you first have to see the forest for the tree's every one was hyped about Rex but he proved he is best suited for where he is now blowing hot air on TV not on a sideline !! Thurman was nothing but a figure head !! Completely agree he was just a figurehead, but didn't view him at all as a scapegoat as everyone around knew Rex was the brains or lack there of behind the defense. Someone pointed out one instance of Rex maybe throwing Thurman under the bus, I didn't recall that one, but overall don't recall Rex ever bad mouthing Thurman, seemedeveryone was happy with him beign the figurehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatComeback Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 hours ago, T master said: The first sign of incompetence should have been when they tried to take all 4/3 personnel & change the D to a 3/4 for being a supposed defensive coach you first have to see the forest for the tree's every one was hyped about Rex but he proved he is best suited for where he is now blowing hot air on TV not on a sideline !! Thurman was nothing but a figure head !! Yep Thurman was a figurehead. But any say he had on the defense was eliminated once Robb Ryan came on board. Many players have said that Robb was basically running the Bills defense? Why did Rex bring in Robb instead of trusting Dennis Thurman? Because he knew his arse was on the line. That’s why I consider Rob coming in as a demotion to Thurman...even if it technically wasn’t on paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 "If you remember Thurman was famously the scapegoat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Sounds like that's where Rob should stay. Everyone's good at something, and it ain't coaching D for fat Rob. Beside, he might lose some weight over there when all there is to eat is fish and chips; no chicken wings, no pizza, no barrels of lard. I worked in UK for a while and got tired of town food. I did not have a car but I found a Chinese place withing walking distance. Walked there and ordered some fried noodles and the cook dropped a large tab of lard in wok. When I got my meal I just dropped it in garbage can and left. He can find barrels of lard there easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 hours ago, T master said: The first sign of incompetence should have been when they tried to take all 4/3 personnel & change the D to a 3/4 for being a supposed defensive coach you first have to see the forest for the tree's every one was hyped about Rex but he proved he is best suited for where he is now blowing hot air on TV not on a sideline !! Thurman was nothing but a figure head !! ...and caving to that Pig Roast's "guest of honor" on the buffet line set this damn club back two years......brother Buffet Rob was the epitome of nepotism....how the 'eff did Schwartz show up with a scheme in mind but ADJUSTED IT to the personnel he had to work with?......and if memory serves me, the results were "palatable"..good to see Thurman has gained employment in whatever capacity....for thick or thin...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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