HappyDays Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Mort clarified that he meant it was in case if injury Ok good because that line has haunted me the past couple days... if Anderson is here for mentorship I have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: You. Gave. One. Good. Example. Mettenberg. And in that situation they had a young offensive minded HC who was in charge of grooming Mariota. I said it's virtually done everywhere. Which it is. There are dozens and dozens of examples of it over dozens of years. It's done and known by "virtually" everyone. Which it was brought up as an aberration and a ridiculously stupid one when the Bills didn't do it and started the season with only Nate. I would imagine you piped in with how crazy it was. I mentioned most of the young Rookie QBs who were recently drafted/started over the past few years alone where the teams did not bring in a veteran Qb to mentor the rookie. It's rarely happens, and it is the actual topic of this discussion. You responded that those teams already had "veteran" QBs on the rosters, which, maybe other than McKown, was completely beside the point you were trying to make. Edited October 10, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't believe either Daboll or David Culley have ever played QB in the NFL so I think there is a lot a guy that has seen things from that same perspective behind the line can teach a young QB. Then get a QB coach and save the roster spot for a player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, vincec said: Then get a QB coach and save the roster spot for a player. They did need someone else for back up QB unless you wanted to leave that to Peterman. So I seriously don't get the issue with getting a guy that can also help them in another important area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Maybe if you play it backwards there is a secret message? Who buried Nate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This whole mentor/protege thing reminds me of Seinfeld. Derek Anderson may be worse than Bania. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, transient said: Well we don’t have the luxury of watching Anderson choke away any chance of starting during the preseason so we’ll never get the chance to do a true side by side comparison. No but we did see him manage a come from behind win in Chicago pre-season. 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Yes his 47 starts is totally comparable to McCarron's 3. Or the fact that he has experience filling out a similar role in his 7 years at Carolina which happens to be 3 years longer than McCarron has even been in the league. I'm afraid we are going to live or die with ex-Carolina players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: I mentioned most of the young Rookie QBs who were recently drafted/started over the past few years alone where the teams did not bring in a veteran Qb to mentor the rookie. It's rarely happens, and it is the actual topic of this discussion. You responded that those teams already had "veteran" QBs on the rosters, which, maybe other than McKown, was completely beside the point you were trying to make. No. It’s exactly the point and you know it. You argue just to argue. Of course no one brings in a veteran to mentor a rookie IF THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. The point is obviously virtually everyone has one. If you don’t you bring one in. See how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) I think the John Clayton conversation was merged somewhere in this mess of a thread. John Clayton was on today with Schopp and Bulldog doing his weekly spot. He called for playing Anderson not immediately, but once he has had time to absorb the play book. Maybe in a couple of weeks or something like that. It was brought up that Allen is near the bottom of the league in all passer ratings. Clayton thinks he develops better from a watching position, not a playing position right now. Clayton is suggesting that we will "break" Allen if he continues to start as he is just not ready right now. Here's the link to the 21 minute interview: https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/10-10-john-clayton-schopp-bulldog Edited October 11, 2018 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: This guy had one good year in Cleveland and has been hot garbage ever since. We should've went with Matt Moore. Matt Moore was equally hot garbage in every gane he didn't come off the bench in or that occurred after his first game started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Matt Moore was equally hot garbage in every gane he didn't come off the bench in or that occurred after his first game started. You obviously missed all those Miami games where he surgically dissected the Bills defense like Drew Brees. Edited October 11, 2018 by ChronicAndKnuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Just a guess but maybe he didn't want to come earlier when it looked like they were going to sit Allen behind a Vet. I mean everyone on here was predicting a pretty substantial beating for whoever got put out there first. Fair guess. : ) and yes i was one of those predictors . some one was going to have a rough time ! 1 hour ago, vincec said: Then get a QB coach and save the roster spot for a player. Peterman perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) I fully expect Anderson will be starting games if Allen continues to struggle. It might be a good move it might not for Allen. Honestly Anderson is pretty much trash, so I doubt it will help our offensive suckiness, but I'm willing to bet the coaches will try it... We are producing at a historic ineptness level on offense, averaging 3.6 Yards per play, dead last in the NFL...to even move up to 29th place, we have to get to 5.0 Yards per play, a humongous 1.4 Yard gap...that is utter ridiculousness. Edited October 11, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: You obviously missed all those Miami games where he surgically dissected the Bills defense like Drew Brees. Pretty much exactly what I said...games where he came off the bench he was good...even in his first start he was good...he sucked when he had to start for extended periods of time, which is what separates backup QBs from starters in the NFL...how do they perform once tendencies are on tape and DC's can gameplan you to take away your strengths. The starters adjust and still play well, the backups cannot adjust either due to physical or mental limitations and end up sucking with any extended action. Pretty much what we saw here for years with Fitz. Edited October 11, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This is Allens team. Anderson is here purely to be a mentor. Taking the kid out of the lineup would make me lose my trust in McBeane. I hear what you’re saying but you can’t make the switch, you just can’t. Ride out the tough times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: No but we did see him manage a come from behind win in Chicago pre-season. Despite his rousing game speech about football glory, I doubt even he’d list a preseason game in which, for 3 quarters, he was the worst player on a field of next week’s practice squad players, CFL players, and former camp fodder as a notable achievement. After 3 seasons and 4 NFL starts he should have been so much better than the soon-to-be former Bears that it was demoralizing to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Pretty much exactly what I said...games where he came off the bench he was good...even in his first start he was good...he sucked when he had to start for extended periods of time, which is what separates backup QBs from starters in the NFL...how do they perform once tendencies are on tape and DC's can gameplan you to take away your strengths. The starters adjust and still play well, the backups cannot adjust either due to physical or mental limitations and end up sucking with any extended action. Pretty much what we saw here for years with Fitz. Well coming off the bench is kind of a backup quarterback's job, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: i think the real question is.......was Shady in the plans for next year? Was Derek Anderson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, vincec said: Then get a QB coach and save the roster spot for a player. I think the plan is for him to take Nate’s roster spot once he’s up to speed. I’ll be surprised if that doesn’t happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Well coming off the bench is kind of a backup quarterback's job, no? It is but everyone pretty much knows with few exceptions no backup QB will win more than 5 or 6 games over a course of an NFL season if forced to play the whole year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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