Deranged Rhino Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, KRC said: If I had to pick one, 6. Usually, I just fall asleep. Where is The Boring Drunk option? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I actually shut the !@#$ up when drunk. I'm #7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I actually shut the !@#$ up when drunk. I'm #7 you should drink more often 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Where's the Happy Drunk option? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Where's the Happy Drunk option? I figured it was synonymous with Dancing Drunk... but it should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 What kind of drunk can you be if you don't drink? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, njbuff said: What kind of drunk can you be if you don't drink? ? Schrödinger's drunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 10/5/2018 at 12:41 PM, Tiberius said: Then you got the court you want! Very prophetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 WV vs EPA Congress did not give the EPA the power to devise emissions caps based on the generation shifting approach the Agency took in the (Obama era) Clean Power Plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, B-Man said: WV vs EPA Congress did not give the EPA the power to devise emissions caps based on the generation shifting approach the Agency took in the (Obama era) Clean Power Plan. What's weird about this is that the rule at the heart of this case wasn't even in effect. It had been revoked during the Trump administration. This probably should have been mooted out. But SCOTUS gonna SCOTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, B-Man said: WV vs EPA Congress did not give the EPA the power to devise emissions caps based on the generation shifting approach the Agency took in the (Obama era) Clean Power Plan. Sided with fossil fuel companies. Best court money can buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 "The Supreme Court on Thursday limited the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to regulate carbon emissions from power plants..." "... dealing a blow to the Biden administration’s efforts to address climate change. The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s three liberal justices in dissent, saying that the majority had stripped the E.P.A. of 'the power to respond to the most pressing environmental challenge of our time.'... The implications of the ruling could extend well beyond environmental policy and further signal that the court’s newly expanded conservative majority is deeply skeptical of the power of administrative agencies to address major issues facing the nation and the planet." Writes Adam Liptak in the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/30/us/supreme-court-epa#epa-carbon-emissions-scotus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: "The Supreme Court on Thursday limited the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to regulate carbon emissions from power plants..." "... dealing a blow to the Biden administration’s efforts to address climate change. The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s three liberal justices in dissent, saying that the majority had stripped the E.P.A. of 'the power to respond to the most pressing environmental challenge of our time.'... The implications of the ruling could extend well beyond environmental policy and further signal that the court’s newly expanded conservative majority is deeply skeptical of the power of administrative agencies to address major issues facing the nation and the planet." Writes Adam Liptak in the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/30/us/supreme-court-epa#epa-carbon-emissions-scotus So more pollution? Hurrah! A victory against the fresh air crowd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Well, this isn't good... On the independent state legislature theory: Quote The Constitution delegates power to administer federal elections to the states, subject to Congressional override. There is, however, a disagreement about how much power is delegated and to which state actors exactly. There are two relevant clauses. One is the Elections Clause, which reads, “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.” The other is the Presidential Electors Clause, which reads, “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors.” The dispute hinges on how to understand the word “legislature.” The long-running understanding is that it refers to each state’s general lawmaking processes, including all the normal procedures and limitations. So if a state constitution subjects legislation to being blocked by a governor’s veto or citizen referendum, election laws can be blocked via the same means. And state courts must ensure that laws for federal elections, like all laws, comply with their state constitutions. Proponents of the independent state legislature theory reject this traditional reading, insisting that these clauses give state legislatures exclusive and near-absolute power to regulate federal elections. The result? When it comes to federal elections, legislators would be free to violate the state constitution and state courts couldn’t stop them. Extreme versions of the theory would block legislatures from delegating their authority to officials like governors, secretaries of state, or election commissioners, who currently play important roles in administering elections. Somehow, I'm not optimistic that SCOTUS will end up ruling in a way that's good for democracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So more pollution? Hurrah! A victory against the fresh air crowd! NO. Less government overreach. Hurrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: NO. Less government overreach. Hurrah. Cutting off our nose to spite our face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Lol. SCOTUS changed constitutional law enough this term that the bar exam had to release a statement: Quote Examinees taking the NCBE-developed July 2022 MBE, MPT, and MEE will not be required to be familiar with this term's US Supreme Court decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, B-Man said: "The Supreme Court on Thursday limited the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to regulate carbon emissions from power plants..." "... dealing a blow to the Biden administration’s efforts to address climate change. The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s three liberal justices in dissent, saying that the majority had stripped the E.P.A. of 'the power to respond to the most pressing environmental challenge of our time.'... The implications of the ruling could extend well beyond environmental policy and further signal that the court’s newly expanded conservative majority is deeply skeptical of the power of administrative agencies to address major issues facing the nation and the planet." Writes Adam Liptak in the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/30/us/supreme-court-epa#epa-carbon-emissions-scotus In a majority opinion authored by chief justice John Roberts, the justices ruled the Environmental Protection Agency was not specifically authorized by Congress to reduce carbon emissions when it was set up in 1970. The ruling leaves the Biden administration dependent on passing legislation if it wants to implement sweeping regulations to curb emissions. So far the common theme of the court is legislate through the legislature. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Making states more powerful is basically the beginning stages of secession. It’s happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 The Democratic Party has been run by Judicial Fiat for so long that they have no idea what to do with themselves while holding majority power. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 The Supreme Court Returns Legislative Power to the Legislative Branch https://redstate.com/joesquire/2022/06/30/the-supreme-court-returns-legislative-power-to-the-legislative-branch-n586718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Elena Kagan’s dissenting opinion in SCOTUS’ EPA decision suggests Congress is full of idiots who should let unelected bureaucrats run things https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/30/elena-kagans-dissenting-opinion-in-scotus-epa-decision-suggests-congress-is-full-of-idiots-who-should-let-unelected-bureaucrats-run-things/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Elena Kagan’s dissenting opinion in SCOTUS’ EPA decision suggests Congress is full of idiots who should let unelected bureaucrats run things https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/30/elena-kagans-dissenting-opinion-in-scotus-epa-decision-suggests-congress-is-full-of-idiots-who-should-let-unelected-bureaucrats-run-things/ Congress IS full of idiots. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 The Supreme Court’s Civics Lesson by Noah Rothman A momentous term for the Supreme Court ended on Thursday with one of the most consequential rulings it has handed down this year. With its decision in West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency, the Court has affirmed the notion that it is the purview of Congress—not the federal bureaucracy—to write laws. That lesson will be bitterly resisted, which is why it is so vital. In this case, the Court was asked to determine whether the EPA has the authority to set rules around emissions generated by coal-burning power plants that are so strict they could have no other effect than to remove coal from the nation’s electricity mix. The Court ruled that this administrative effort to render an entire sector of the economy obsolete was not supported by statute or Congressional intent. Indeed, it was contemptuous of both. “EPA claimed to discover an unheralded power representing a transformative expansion of its regulatory authority in the vague language of a long-extant, but rarely used, statute designed as a gap filler,” read the syllabus of the decision authored by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. “That discovery allowed it to adopt a regulatory program that Congress had conspicuously declined to enact itself.” The EPA’s expansive interpretation of its statutory jurisdiction extended well beyond what Congress had approved. Indeed, the agency’s authority appeared to have been derived from that which Congress explicitly spurned. “Nor can the Court ignore that the regulatory writ EPA newly uncovered,” Roberts added, “conveniently enabled it to enact a program, namely, cap-and-trade for carbon, that Congress had already considered and rejected numerous times.” https://www.commentary.org/noah-rothman/the-supreme-courts-civics-lesson/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Oh no!!!!!!! Poor Brandon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 West Virginia saved America. You're welcome By Don Surber This morning, the Supreme Court handed down its most important decision since Heller. Chief Justice John Roberts writing for his 6-3 majority told the EPA that its powers are not infinite in ruling in favor of West Virginia in its landmark lawsuit against the bureaucracy and the Democrat Party. Chief justices save the big cases for themselves. And they also save the big cases for last. CNN reported, "The Supreme Court curbed the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to broadly regulate carbon emissions from existing power plants, a major defeat for the Biden administration’s attempts to slash emissions at a moment when scientists are sounding alarms about the accelerating pace of global warming." The damage from a bunch of civil servants deciding the fate of a trillion-dollar energy industry is enormous. But the lawsuit brought by West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey was based on something far more important than this weather phrenology. The Constitution. The ruling made it clear that Morrisey is right. He freed the nation from a nearly omnipotent bureaucracy. Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law, told the ruling "could be cataclysmic for modern administrative law." I sure hope so because the unelected people inside the DC bubble have no clue of how America operates. They listen to lobbyists who seek favor. The carbon dioxide nonsense led to restrictions on coal, oil and natural gas and billions in subsidies for windmills and the like. Tesla may be the nation's largest company but it got there through welfare payments courtesy of Lord Obama. In his concurrent opinion, Gorsuch wrote, "When Congress seems slow to solve problems, it may be only natural that those in the Executive Branch might seek to take matters into their own hands. But the Constitution does not authorize agencies to use pen-and-phone regulations as substitutes for laws passed by the people’s representatives. In our Republic, 'It is the peculiar province of the legislature to prescribe general rules for the government of society.' [He cited an 1810 ruling.] Because today’s decision helps safeguard that foundational constitutional promise, I am pleased to concur." Oof. Take that, Mister Pen and Phone. In limiting presidential powers, the court did John Marshall proud. https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/06/west-virginia-saved-america-youre.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh no!!!!!!! Poor Brandon! Are you... rooting for pollution...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Congress IS full of idiots. However, so is the Executive branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Are you... rooting for pollution...? Clean Water Act Fresh Air Act Recycle Everything Acts or whatever.... All have the intended or unintended (its intended) consequence of giving the Federal Government (via the Executive Branch and the now *checks notes* 220 Federal agencies) under its control. Who are ultimately partisan bureaucrats. I guess you don't support.....democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh no!!!!!!! Poor Brandon! So its good news to keep polluting and to leave things worse for our kids and grandkids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, TH3 said: So its good news to keep polluting and to leave things worse for our kids and grandkids? Democrats have already taken care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Clean Water Act Fresh Air Act Recycle Everything Acts or whatever.... All have the intended or unintended (its intended) consequence of giving the Federal Government (via the Executive Branch and the now *checks notes* 220 Federal agencies) under its control. Who are ultimately partisan bureaucrats. I guess you don't support.....democracy. Congress, that thing we have from our democracy, passed laws to better our environment. Since congress is a legislative body, they are not in a position to oversee all of the regulations and enforcement. So Congress, that thing we have from our democracy, voted to have an agency enforce the laws that they, congress (that thing we have from our democracy) had passed. In our democracy, we have a congress, which writes the laws, and an executive branch, which executes them. We can debate about how much authority congress should delegate for rulemaking and enforcement, but congress passing laws and the executive branch enforcing them is literally how our democracy works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Trump nominated Scott Pruitt to head the EPA - and the typical commies lost their ***t because an agency under their thumb was going to have new management. You have to believe in the right science to head certain agencies. You have to acknowledge a certain number of genders to head them. Unable to define a woman? Straight to the SCOTUS. Less Federal Government is always the answer. You can recycle and ban all the plastic grocery bags you want in New York or California. Fumble all your groceries out of the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Democrats have already taken care of that. Does it hurt when you wake up?....FFS you live a miserable existance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TH3 said: So its good news to keep polluting and to leave things worse for our kids and grandkids? No. Pass the legislation that will help things. That's how i's supposed to work. Not government fiat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Could have gone in the Lefties are Mentally Disturbed thread also......😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Democrats: Local government bad. Federal government good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: In a majority opinion authored by chief justice John Roberts, the justices ruled the Environmental Protection Agency was not specifically authorized by Congress to reduce carbon emissions when it was set up in 1970. The ruling leaves the Biden administration dependent on passing legislation if it wants to implement sweeping regulations to curb emissions. So far the common theme of the court is legislate through the legislature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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