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Beane took a lot of heat for his offseason pick ups

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Maybe we should revisit that......

 

P Corey Bojorquez - Some good some bad today.....has quite the leg

 

CB Ryan Lewis - thought he played very well considering he is brand new

 

C Russell Bodine - Hated upon greatly.....and not a star....but has stuck on the Bengals for years....not as bad as made out to be

 

T Marshall Newhouse - Low end free agent signing

 

RB Chris Ivory - Has been exactly as advertised and a good signing

 

DT - Star L. - Not putting up the stats.....but sure does take on the double teams allowing others to do their thing....really helped Milano today

 

DE - Trent Murphy - getting better by the game.....starting to get pressure and make plays

 

 

 

 

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Trent looks about as advertised:  a tall, long guy that has some skills but missed training camp and hasnt played meaningful football in a year.   

 

Bodine was the best we could find on short notice.  Newhouse huge but slow.  (Dumb penalty today v costly)

 

Ivory slow but better than I expected.

Star overpaid but ok.

 

Anxious to see Ryan Lewis All 22.  He might be good.  Lord knows we need him.

 

 Orchard flashed a little today at DE.

 

We should have got Mack, even if it cost us two firsts.  One pick we will burn on an edge guy anyway, so its like giving up one 1st rounder in two years for a second round pick swap (thats the deal chicago got), raiders #2 for bears #1.  Total absolute no brainer to get a dominant guy in his prime that would have loved playing here.    That failure to make the trade will haunt Beane.   

 

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15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Maybe we should revisit that......

 

P Corey Bojorquez - Some good some bad today.....has quite the leg

 

CB Ryan Lewis - thought he played very well considering he is brand new

 

C Russell Bodine - Hated upon greatly.....and not a star....but has stuck on the Bengals for years....not as bad as made out to be

 

T Marshall Newhouse - Low end free agent signing

 

RB Chris Ivory - Has been exactly as advertised and a good signing

 

DT - Star L. - Not putting up the stats.....but sure does take on the double teams allowing others to do their thing....really helped Milano today

 

DE - Trent Murphy - getting better by the game.....starting to get pressure and make plays

 

 

 

 

 

it does take time but my issue with star is not stats as he is a plugger, I just don't think you need to pay that much for a guy who takes on Double teams.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

Trent looks about as advertised:  a tall, long guy that has some skills but missed training camp and hasnt played meaningful football in a year.   

 

Bodine was the best we could find on short notice.  Newhouse huge but slow.  (Dumb penalty today v costly)

 

Ivory slow but better than I expected.

Star overpaid but ok.

 

Anxious to see Ryan Lewis All 22.  He might be good.  Lord knows we need him.

 

 Orchard flashed a little today at DE.

 

We should have got Mack, even if it cost us two firsts.  One pick we will burn on an edge guy anyway, so its like giving up one 1st rounder in two years for a second round pick swap (thats the deal chicago got), raiders #2 for bears #1.  Total absolute no brainer to get a dominant guy in his prime that would have loved playing here.    That failure to make the trade will haunt Beane.   

 

 

No way on Mack , we need those picks to rebuild and McD has got the defense rolling again.

 

 

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I still hate Newhouse and want him gone even more than DuCasse.. 

Newhouse has always been a low effort penalty machine. I’d rather have Benjamin line up at tackle than that guy. 

I was not very worried about the other signings compared to how many were on here going nuts we paid some of these guys to come here. I will stand by my Newhouse assessment though and pray they replace him ASAP. 

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32 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

We should have got Mack, even if it cost us two firsts.  One pick we will burn on an edge guy anyway, so its like giving up one 1st rounder in two years for a second round pick swap (thats the deal chicago got), raiders #2 for bears #1.  Total absolute no brainer to get a dominant guy in his prime that would have loved playing here.    That failure to make the trade will haunt Beane.   

 

They are trying to come out of cap hell...they had traded three picks this year to get their two 1st round picks...they weren't going to make another blockbuster that would involve their next two years 1st rounders and then pay $140M contract....Just was not going to happen.

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Thought the lot of them played pretty well yesterday.  Especially thought Ivory played well, wasn’t expecting that.  Expected Marcus Murphy to look better than he did when he ran the ball. 

 

Need to keep it up, one game does not make a season.

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You forgot to add Vontae to your list John.....

 

My questions with Trent Murphy were always health. I liked him coming out and he has made plays in the league when healthy. He was 100% not ready to go week 1 he was basically limping out there. He looked healthy for the first time yesterday and the results were encouraging.

 

On Star, yesterday showed us nothing - the Vikings were made one dimensional early. The test for him comes against teams who want to run it and run it straight at us. I still think we vastly overpaid for an average talent.

 

Bodine looked like an upgrade on Groy - not massively in a physical sense - but in the sense that I think they made the right protection adjustments yesterday. The free blitzers running at the Quarterback simply didn't happen this week.

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Lotulelei had that one really really good play when they lined him off the edge, clocked the RB hard man! Looks like he may actually be a decent free agent acquisition after all.

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7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

No way on Mack , we need those picks to rebuild and McD has got the defense rolling again.

 

 

Agree 100 percent, especially if Hughes would have been part of the trade.  If anything happens to JA, we’ll be right back in the discussion for first overall pick.

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

You forgot to add Vontae to your list John.....

 

My questions with Trent Murphy were always health. I liked him coming out and he has made plays in the league when healthy. He was 100% not ready to go week 1 he was basically limping out there. He looked healthy for the first time yesterday and the results were encouraging.

 

On Star, yesterday showed us nothing - the Vikings were made one dimensional early. The test for him comes against teams who want to run it and run it straight at us. I still think we vastly overpaid for an average talent.

 

Bodine looked like an upgrade on Groy - not massively in a physical sense - but in the sense that I think they made the right protection adjustments yesterday. The free blitzers running at the Quarterback simply didn't happen this week.

 

Dig in on those opinions, gunner.....diiiiiig in

 

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37 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Dig in on those opinions, gunner.....diiiiiig in

 

 

You think they are not what has been evident on the field?

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So........ We don't want to fire Beane this week? 

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Just now, H2o said:

So........ We don't want to fire Beane this week? 

 

Anyone shouting for firings after two weeks was being utterly ridiculous.  Equally it is safe to say that the key judgment for Beane is how Allen and Edmunds look this year and how he spends his capital (both $$s and draft) in 2019. His FA class did better yesterday (because Trent was healthy and Shady was not). I still don't think you can yet class it as a good FA class.

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It's important to keep in mind that no GM ever bats 1000. I always assume that you will overpay in FA. It's the nature of the beast. Clearly though, this FO has a plan and is sticking to it. They've cleaned out most of the dead wood, acquired their QB of the present and future, and now will begin surrounding him with talent in 2019.

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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Anyone shouting for firings after two weeks was being utterly ridiculous.  Equally it is safe to say that the key judgment for Beane is how Allen and Edmunds look this year and how he spends his capital (both $$s and draft) in 2019. His FA class did better yesterday (because Trent was healthy and Shady was not). I still don't think you can yet class it as a good FA class.

Allen looked better yesterday and so did Edmunds outside of a couple bad angles when attacking the LOS. Yes, the "fire everyone" talk was as stupid as you can get. It's amazing how Billspolar some people are. 

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Also dont forget about Benjamin. He was last years pick up, but still looks slow and drops every other pass thrown his way. The fact that they came into the season with him as a #1 wasnt a good idea. 

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56 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Also dont forget about Benjamin. He was last years pick up, but still looks slow and drops every other pass thrown his way. The fact that they came into the season with him as a #1 wasnt a good idea. 

They figured it out in Carolina before we did, but what options did we really have? #DeadCapLife

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First time in years where the Head Coach is better than the GM. Thank god we somehow got McDermott as HC.

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5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:

First time in years where the Head Coach is better than the GM. Thank god we somehow got McDermott as HC.

 

Keep digging in those heels on bad opinions.

 

 

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Just now, joesixpack said:

 

Keep digging in those heels on bad opinions.

 

 

What makes it bad, it goes against your sensibilities?

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Just now, CuddyDark said:

What makes it bad, it goes against your sensibilities?

 

What makes it bad is it's wrong.

 

Period.

 

The young talent that was making plays all over the field? That's a product of BOTH McDermott AND Beane.

 

Just because YOU don't like some of their moves doesn't make them bad or even wrong. It means you think you're smarter than you actually are.

 

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3 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

What makes it bad is it's wrong.

 

Period.

 

The young talent that was making plays all over the field? That's a product of BOTH McDermott AND Beane.

 

Just because YOU don't like some of their moves doesn't make them bad or even wrong. It means you think you're smarter than you actually are.

 

And because YOU like the moves doesn't make them good or even right. It's bad because you disagree with it. Because your ego can't take disagreement.

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Doesn't have to do with his FA pickups but McDermott putting Alexander on the DLine in passing situations has immensely helped the pass rush. 

 

Lorenzo has been a beast at this. Awesome to see.

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Just now, CuddyDark said:

And because YOU like the moves doesn't make them good or even right. It's bad because you disagree with it. Because your ego can't take disagreement.

 

:lol:

 

Sure, tell yourself that. But don't be acting like you were on board the whole time when this thing inevitably all works. Mkay?

 

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