Gregg Rosenthal: 2018 NFL QB Index - Ranking QBs from the Last Four Drafts

[BuffaloHokie13]

[26CornerBlitz]

 

QB Rankings: Rodgers Slips Behind Rivers, Goff

 

The NFL season began with the quarterback position looking deeper than ever and for once everything is going as planned. The top half of my quarterback rankings below is as strong as it's been since I started this exercise in 2014.

 

Aaron Rodgers has 20 touchdowns with one interception and it's considered a down year. Cam Newton is on pace for nearly 4,000 passing yards and 32 touchdowns to go with his usual rushing stats, which would normally be good for a top-five showing. He's 10th. Baker Mayfield is having one of the best statistical seasons for a rookie quarterback ever and he's No. 15. Before he got hurt, Andy Dalton was on pace to top 30 touchdowns, which would've been good for the second-highest total of his career, yet he's right in the middle of the rankings, just like he always is.

 

Stats are increasingly tricky to compare across eras, and eras can change fast. Nearly half the league's QBs are throwing for as many yards per attempt as Peyton Manning's career average. The best way to evaluate players is the same as it ever was -- compare them against their competition.

 

Below is my best attempt at taking a snapshot of the position through nearly three quarters of the season, using weekly grades from GamePass watching. The next complete 1-32 rankings will take place after the regular season ends.

 

NOTE: This is the Quarterback Index. The QBs are ranked based on 2018 play alone. The arrows reflect the changes since the midseason 32-man rankings.

 

 

 

 

[hondo in seattle]

On 11/8/2018 at 12:48 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

It's good to see two youngsters on the list - bodes well for the future of football.

 

Brees ought to be in the GOAT conversation.  

Edited November 30, 2018 by hondo in seattle

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

QB Rankings: Rodgers Slips Behind Rivers, Goff

 

The NFL season began with the quarterback position looking deeper than ever and for once everything is going as planned. The top half of my quarterback rankings below is as strong as it's been since I started this exercise in 2014.

 

Aaron Rodgers has 20 touchdowns with one interception and it's considered a down year. Cam Newton is on pace for nearly 4,000 passing yards and 32 touchdowns to go with his usual rushing stats, which would normally be good for a top-five showing. He's 10th. Baker Mayfield is having one of the best statistical seasons for a rookie quarterback ever and he's No. 15. Before he got hurt, Andy Dalton was on pace to top 30 touchdowns, which would've been good for the second-highest total of his career, yet he's right in the middle of the rankings, just like he always is.

 

Stats are increasingly tricky to compare across eras, and eras can change fast. Nearly half the league's QBs are throwing for as many yards per attempt as Peyton Manning's career average. The best way to evaluate players is the same as it ever was -- compare them against their competition.

 

Below is my best attempt at taking a snapshot of the position through nearly three quarters of the season, using weekly grades from GamePass watching. The next complete 1-32 rankings will take place after the regular season ends.

 

NOTE: This is the Quarterback Index. The QBs are ranked based on 2018 play alone. The arrows reflect the changes since the midseason 32-man rankings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Josh Allen has a ton of upside if he continues to take to coaching in order to leverage his physical gifts.  The pass to Foster in the Jags game was enough to think the future is better than it has been in years.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, BuffaloBill said:

Josh Allen has a ton of upside if he continues to take to coaching in order to leverage his physical gifts.  The pass to Foster in the Jags game was enough to think the future is better than it has been in years.

 

It was an overall encouraging performance that should provide hope for a further ascension. 

[CuddyDark]

It's still too early to judge. Teams will scout him in the offseason and the challenge will be for him to overcome tendencies. 25 or 26 games before we know. Right now a better Bortles is probably about right.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

QB INDEX

 

 

Three QB-Needy Teams

This offseason will be unique because there are only three teams truly in need of answers at the quarterback position, writes Gregg Rosenthal. What should the Giants, Jaguars and Redskins do in 2019?

 

"There aren't many teams searching for a starting quarterback" is a statement that has almost never been true in the NFL. It is absolutely true at the moment.

 

The unprecedented depth at the position will impact this offseason's free-agent market and NFL draft, with fewer teams than a year ago likely to spend top dollar or a top pick on the position. While the market for available veteran quarterbacks still has to shake out, I see only three teams that appear absolutely desperate to find a new signal-caller this offseason.

 

Before getting to the quarterback rankings, let's look at which teams could be diving back into the QB pool this offseason.

Edited December 6, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Seoulofstone]

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/06/pff-pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-josh-allen-highest-rated-qb-in-nfl-over-past-two-weeks/

[26CornerBlitz]

NFL Week 14 QB Power Rankings: Putting Patrick Mahomes' ridiculous season in perspective

 

by Will Brinson

 

There are just four weeks left in the NFL season. While that's sad, it does offer an opportunity to actually look at what's happening with some production from a historical perspective. We all know what Patrick Mahomes has done this year. It's been one of the biggest stories of the season. But what's stunning is Mahomes' production hasn't trailed off since his historical start to the season.

 

At this point Mahomes leads the NFL in touchdowns (41) and Adjusted Yards/Attempt (10.0). Somehow he doesn't lead the NFL in passing yards; Ben Roethlisbergerpassed him this past week and has a slight lead. Mahomes is going to blitz past 4,000 yards this weekend and it would be surprise if he didn't hit 50 passing touchdowns at some point, especially with Kareem Hunt now gone and the Chiefsforced to lean on the passing game. KC won't sit guys, not with the Chargers chasing them and needing to hold off New England. This is going to be a massive season when Mahomes finishes. 

 

But where does it stand historically? Currently Mahomes has 3,923 yards and those 41 touchdowns with just 10 interceptions while completing 66.9 percent of his passes. Here's the list of people to ever throw for 3,900 yards, 40 touchdowns, 15 or less picks with 65 percent completion:

 

Patrick Mahomes (2018)
Aaron Rodgers (2016)
Peyton Manning (2013)
Drew Brees (2011)
Aaron Rodgers (2011)
Tom Brady (2007)
Peyton Manning (2004)
Kurt Warner (1999)

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

QB Index: Brady Inches Closer to Top Five Ranking

NOTE: This is the Quarterback Index. The QBs are ranked based on 2018 play alone. The next ranking of all 32 starters comes after Week 17.

 

Nearly three years after the 2016 NFL Draft, the Rams and Eagles wouldn't change a thing. The debate between Jared Goff and Carson Wentz had no wrong answer, although it certainly didn't look that way two years ago at this time.

 

Goff's career trajectory is yet another lesson in allowing players to mature before removing hot takes from the oven. It's no surprise that a 22-year-old quarterback didn't thrive under Jeff Fisher, but I am struck by how these two quarterbacks' early paths have diverged since Wentz tore his left ACL in a shootout with Goff's Rams in Los Angeles this week one year ago.

 

Sunday's rematch was supposed to be a chance for Wentz to put that memory behind him, but NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported on Thursday that tests revealed Wentz has a fracture in his back, which makes him unlikely to play this week and could keep him out the rest of the season.

 

Wentz has struggled with injury luck dating back to his final season at North Dakota State, when he suffered a broken wrist. The bigger concern after 40 NFL starts remains his accuracy. His completion percentage went up this season (from 60.2 to 69.6) coming off his knee injury, although that was largely due to a dink-and-dunk Eagles offense that failed to push the ball down the field. Wentz still looks like a star, though, and mixed in some of the jaw-dropping plays that had him rated as a strong MVP candidate a year ago. He's among the toughest quarterbacks to bring down and completes high-degree-of-difficulty throws. But too often this year, Wentz made poor decisions or missed routine passes, with the back issues, which Rapoport says date back to October, as a potential explanation.

[Nelius]

On 11/20/2018 at 1:53 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I'm in a similar boat to this point. My top 5 so far are Brees, Mahomes, Ryan, Goff, and Luck

 

Matty Ice is so under-rated, I don't care who hates that opinion. The guys is in the upper echelon statistically and recently took his team to the Super Bowl, and the talking heads still act as if he needs to turn a corner, like he's in the Ryan Tannehill tier or something. Blows my mind. The fact that he's 8th on that index currently says everything. He's never really good enough to be on the A team and has to prove it every year it seems.

 

Same for Julio Jones, really. The guy might have 1,800 yards receiving this year yet he's always getting knocked for his touchdown totals. It's as if the whole Atlanta offense is still getting dinged for that Super Bowl meltdown.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Nelius

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Matty Ice is so under-rated, I don't care who hates that opinion. The guys is in the upper echelon statistically and recently took his team to the Super Bowl, and the talking heads still act as if he needs to turn a corner, like he's in the Ryan Tannehill tier or something. Blows my mind. The fact that he's 8th on that index currently says everything. He's never really good enough to be on the A team and has to prove it every year it seems.

 

Same for Julio Jones, really. The guy might have 1,800 yards receiving this year yet he's always getting knocked for his touchdown totals. It's as if the whole Atlanta offense is still getting dinged for that Super Bowl meltdown.

 

I disagree.  Ryan to me is overrated.  Falcons choke year after year no matter who the coach is.  Every year they struggle to even contend for the playoffs, and most years don’t get there.  Multiple times they started off hot and still missed playoffs.   And it is an issue that Julio isn’t more of a red zone threat.  Whose fault is it?  His or Ryan’s?  Why can’t they use his size better in red zone?  

 

Ryan isn’t a bad QB, but him, Stafford, Cousins aren’t a lot different for me.  He can compile stats but struggles to win, especially in big moments.  Falcons just always come up short.  He’s had more to work with than guys like Brady, Wilson, etc but yet doesn’t get the job done like they do.  

 

Every year its more excuses, but why?  Why this far into his career are they still making excuses for Ryan and why the Falcons don’t win more?  It’s not like he lacks weapons, they have been loaded with weapons.

[Nelius]

14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I disagree.  Ryan to me is overrated.  Falcons choke year after year no matter who the coach is.  Every year they struggle to even contend for the playoffs, and most years don’t get there.  Multiple times they started off hot and still missed playoffs.   And it is an issue that Julio isn’t more of a red zone threat.  Whose fault is it?  His or Ryan’s?  Why can’t they use his size better in red zone?  

 

Ryan isn’t a bad QB, but him, Stafford, Cousins aren’t a lot different for me.  He can compile stats but struggles to win, especially in big moments.  Falcons just always come up short.  He’s had more to work with than guys like Brady, Wilson, etc but yet doesn’t get the job done like they do.  

 

Every year its more excuses, but why?  Why this far into his career are they still making excuses for Ryan and why the Falcons don’t win more?  It’s not like he lacks weapons, they have been loaded with weapons.

 

I don't get how losing the Super Bowl = struggling to contend for the playoffs?

 

Choke or not that team with Ryan was 2nd best recently, which I would assume should mean something to a fanbase that prides itself on an extended run as the 2nd best.

 

I should add that I'm not a fan of Stafford, and I don't think Cousins was worth it. Neither are in the same tier as Matt Ryan in my opinion. That's kind of my point. Ryan should be edging his way into the elite, but he's still largely mired in the mid-tier with these QBs who truly haven't done anything. Ryan lost a Superbowl, Stafford can't win a playoff game.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Nelius

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

I don't get how losing the Super Bowl = struggling to contend for the playoffs?

 

Choke or not that team with Ryan was 2nd best recently, which I would assume should mean something to a fanbase that prides itself on an extended run as the 2nd best.

 

They are 43-50 over the last 6 seasons.  They made playoffs twice during that span.  What’s confusing by my statement that they struggle to even make the playoffs?  

 

I mean Rex Grossman started in the SB as the starting QB for the Bears.  Making one SB and losing doesn’t make him amazing.  

[Nelius]

Matt Ryan playoffs record - 4-6 

 

Matt Stafford playoffs record - 0-3

Kirk Cousins - 0-1

Andy Dalton - 0-4

 

let's take it up a notch:

 

Philip Rivers - 4-5

Andrew Luck - 3-3

Cam Newton - 3-4

 

You compared Ryan to Group A. Further proof that Matt Ryan is underrated.

 

[Nelius]

15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

They are 43-50 over the last 6 seasons.  They made playoffs twice during that span.  What’s confusing by my statement that they struggle to even make the playoffs?  

 

 

Yeah, 2 of 6 despite the results is kind of hard to argue with as it's still well outside of Brady/Rodgers/Brees, but it's still much better than the Lions, or Bengals, or most of the league. I'll settle with Matt Ryan being in a lonely B+ tier all by himself. He's definitely outgrown the Stafford tier.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Nelius

[Alphadawg7]

26 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Matt Ryan playoffs record - 4-6 

 

Matt Stafford playoffs record - 0-3

Kirk Cousins - 0-1

Andy Dalton - 0-4

 

let's take it up a notch:

 

Philip Rivers - 4-5

Andrew Luck - 3-3

Cam Newton - 3-4

 

You compared Ryan to Group A. Further proof that Matt Ryan is underrated.

 

 

Well that’s also skewing it.  Ryan got most the playoff wins in one season when they made the SB, but choked.  

 

I am not saying he’s a bad QB or even that it’s all his fault.  I just think he is rated right about where he should be is all and was addressing the under rated part.

 

I mean can you even put him in the top 10?  It’s close, I think he falls just outside that for me.

 

Top 3 are still (in no particular order) Brady, Brees, Rodgers.  I get Mahomes season, but not gonna unseat one of those top 3 yet as he hasn’t won anything yet and need to see him have another good season next year.  I do think he will, but until it happens, not gonna bump any of the top 3 yet for him.

 

Next 5 in no particular order:  Mahomes, Wilson, Big Ben, Goff, Luck. 

 

Thats 8, then you have guys like Ryan, Newton, Watson, Rivers, Wentz, Stafford.  I would put Ryan in this group, I can see someone putting him first in this group ranking him 9th or even maybe like 3rd making him 11th.  

 

So I think he’s rated about where he should be.  I can’t see putting him ahead of any of the top 8.  

 

 

[Nelius]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well that’s also skewing it.  Ryan got most the playoff wins in one season when they made the SB, but choked.  

 

I am not saying he’s a bad QB or even that it’s all his fault.  I just think he is rated right about where he should be is all and was addressing the under rated part.

 

I mean can you even put him in the top 10?  It’s close, I think he falls just outside that for me.

 

Top 3 are still (in no particular order) Brady, Brees, Rodgers.  I get Mahomes season, but not gonna unseat one of those top 3 yet as he hasn’t won anything yet and need to see him have another good season next year.  I do think he will, but until it happens, not gonna bump any of the top 3 yet for him.

 

Next 5 in no particular order:  Mahomes, Wilson, Big Ben, Goff, Luck. 

 

Thats 8, then you have guys like Ryan, Newton, Watson, Rivers, Wentz, Stafford.  I would put Ryan in this group, I can see someone putting him first in this group ranking him 9th or even maybe like 3rd making him 11th.  

 

So I think he’s rated about where he should be.  I can’t see putting him ahead of any of the top 8.  

 

 

 

Right on, I agree with most of this, but if Ryan's in that third tier then I'd move him to the head of the pack and knock Stafford out of it completely. I think Ryan is pretty much in lock-step with Luck right now, although far more durable which is a huge plus. Big Ben, Wilson, Goff are in that cloudy second realm too, I wouldn't have issue with anybody ranking Ryan ahead of any of them. Mahomes can definitely hang with the big boys and is probably a step ahead.

[Alphadawg7]

15 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Right on, I agree with most of this, but if Ryan's in that third tier then I'd move him to the head of the pack and knock Stafford out of it completely. I think Ryan is pretty much in lock-step with Luck right now, although far more durable which is a huge plus. Big Ben, Wilson, Goff are in that cloudy second realm too, I wouldn't have issue with anybody ranking Ryan ahead of any of them. Mahomes can definitely hang with the big boys and is probably a step ahead.

 

yeah i would agree with that, after looking again at the list I think I would put him 9th.  Lucks health is a legit concern, but since he is healthy I will give him the edge.  I don’t think Ryan is better than Mahomes, Big Ben or Wilson.  I can see someone making a case for Ryan over Goff, but I personally like Goff better (although I am a little biased as Rams are my second team) but wouldn’t have an issue if someone put Ryan ahead of him or Luck.

[26CornerBlitz]

QB Index, Week 16: Ranking QBs from Last Four Drafts

 

 

Two years after former Browns executive Sashi Brown made the unpopular decision to pass on Carson Wentz, the Browns have a younger, potentially better quarterback in place. This is not an article defending the analytically driven tenure of Sashi, just one that recognizes that the process behind passing up on Wentz eventually resulted in the Browns finally finding their chosen one.

 

Mayfield is part of a blockbuster draft class selected by new Browns GM John Dorsey, while Sashi's underrated 2017 class (Myles Garrett/David Njoku/Jabrill Peppers/Larry Ogunjobi) adds to the stacked young core. Mayfield's arm strength is obvious. But I believe he's the most impressive rookie quarterback to enter the league since Andrew Luck because he displays the same type of anticipation, accuracy, pocket presence and feel for the game that helps make Luck special. There is nothing deferential in Mayfield's game, no concept that he has to bide his time learning as a pro before taking ownership of his team.

 

In honor of Mayfield's decisiveness, there's no point in waiting to say I'd take Mayfield over Wentz, Jared Goff, Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott long-term.

 

NOTE: For this week's QB Index, I chose the impossible task of ranking the quarterbacks from the last four draft classes with a minimum of 100 pass attempts. They are ranked for the long haul, not how they've performed this season. Mayfield just narrowly misses coming out on top.

Edited December 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[C.Biscuit97]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

QB Index, Week 16: Ranking QBs from Last Four Drafts

 

Two years after former Browns executive Sashi Brown made the unpopular decision to pass on Carson Wentz, the Browns have a younger, potentially better quarterback in place. This is not an article defending the analytically driven tenure of Sashi, just one that recognizes that the process behind passing up on Wentz eventually resulted in the Browns finally finding their chosen one.

 

Mayfield is part of a blockbuster draft class selected by new Browns GM John Dorsey, while Sashi's underrated 2017 class (Myles Garrett/David Njoku/Jabrill Peppers/Larry Ogunjobi) adds to the stacked young core. Mayfield's arm strength is obvious. But I believe he's the most impressive rookie quarterback to enter the league since Andrew Luck because he displays the same type of anticipation, accuracy, pocket presence and feel for the game that helps make Luck special. There is nothing deferential in Mayfield's game, no concept that he has to bide his time learning as a pro before taking ownership of his team.

 

In honor of Mayfield's decisiveness, there's no point in waiting to say I'd take Mayfield over Wentz, Jared Goff, Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott long-term.

 

NOTE: For this week's QB Index, I chose the impossible task of ranking the quarterbacks from the last four draft classes with a minimum of 100 pass attempts. They are ranked for the long haul, not how they've performed this season. Mayfield just narrowly misses coming out on top.

That’s a ? take

[HalftimeAdjustment]

He didn't rank Chad Kelly.

[C.Biscuit97]

6 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

He didn't rank Chad Kelly.

1 - Swag Kelly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

everyone else

[BillsSB2020]

I've never been a big fan of Matt Ryan despite the numbers. That young man seems to lack that oomph that the upper echelon QB's possess. This can't be quantified and I'm sure the analytics folks, who I respect, will have a different take. I just think there's something missing with Matt Ryan.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

NFL Week 16 QB Power Rankings: Philip Rivers is the best quarterback in the NFL right now

 

by Will Brinson

 

Last time we dropped these rankings, I pointed out just how absurd Patrick Mahomesseason has been. And now, I'm going to move him out of the top spot. You know the old saying -- to be the best, you've got to beat the best. And Philip Rivers did just that last Thursday, toppling the Chiefs, exorcising some demons and vaulting himself into the thick of the MVP race with a 14-point, fourth-quarter comeback in Kansas City.

 

Mahomes is still probably going to win the award. He'd need to lay an egg in Seattle and the Chiefs would have to lose and the Chargers would have to win out for that to happen.

 

But these rankings aren't about an MVP debate. It's who I think is playing the best quarterback in the NFL right now. And Philip Rivers -- right now -- is the best quarterback in football.

 

It's a combination of things for him to hit that mark. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgersare having down years by their lofty standards. Ben Roethlisberger has been up and down depending on the situation (home vs. road, good opponent vs. bad opponent, etc). Jared Goff and Drew Brees have had bad stretches over the last month, give or take. Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson haven't been as consistent as Rivers. Rivers just beat Mahomes. 

 

Repeat after me: right now Philip Rivers is the best quarterback in the NFL.

 

[H2o]

To have Lamar Jackson in front of Allen is absolutely laughable. To have Rosen in front of Allen is sketchy at best. To have Jackson and Rosen in front of Trubisky is ridiculous. Credibility level for any of these nerds? -3

Edited December 21, 2018 by H2o

[whatdrought]

I honestly don’t know what Sam Darnold has done to prove himself over Allen. 

 

Except get drafted by the Jets.

[DBilz2500]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

***** you clown! Do you watch any of the games?! Go back to your parents basement and go play Fortnite and stay away from anything football related

[Just Joshin']

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Hard to take serious.......

[stony]

17 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said:

***** you clown! Do you watch any of the games?! Go back to your parents basement and go play Fortnite and stay away from anything football related

...Sports Illustrated

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

NFL Week 16 QB Power Rankings: Philip Rivers is the best quarterback in the NFL right now

 

by Will Brinson

 

Last time we dropped these rankings, I pointed out just how absurd Patrick Mahomesseason has been. And now, I'm going to move him out of the top spot. You know the old saying -- to be the best, you've got to beat the best. And Philip Rivers did just that last Thursday, toppling the Chiefs, exorcising some demons and vaulting himself into the thick of the MVP race with a 14-point, fourth-quarter comeback in Kansas City.

 

Mahomes is still probably going to win the award. He'd need to lay an egg in Seattle and the Chiefs would have to lose and the Chargers would have to win out for that to happen.

 

But these rankings aren't about an MVP debate. It's who I think is playing the best quarterback in the NFL right now. And Philip Rivers -- right now -- is the best quarterback in football.

 

It's a combination of things for him to hit that mark. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgersare having down years by their lofty standards. Ben Roethlisberger has been up and down depending on the situation (home vs. road, good opponent vs. bad opponent, etc). Jared Goff and Drew Brees have had bad stretches over the last month, give or take. Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson haven't been as consistent as Rivers. Rivers just beat Mahomes. 

 

Repeat after me: right now Philip Rivers is the best quarterback in the NFL.

 

Allen went from 26 two weeks ago to 17 that's some good movement.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Hard to take serious.......

 

On a BIlls' forum I'm sure it is.  In the end who cares, it's just an opinion that will have zero impact on what happens in the long term.

[whatdrought]

53 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

On a BIlls' forum I'm sure it is.  In the end who cares, it's just an opinion that will have zero impact on what happens in the long term.

 

I’m sure we have some bias as Bills fans, but it seems like a stretch to say that the trajectory of Jackson and Rosen looks brighter than Allen’s does. 

 

My guess is that it has a lot to do with keeping pre-draft ideas current. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, whatdrought said:

 

I’m sure we have some bias as Bills fans, but it seems like a stretch to say that the trajectory of Jackson and Rosen looks brighter than Allen’s does. 

 

My guess is that it has a lot to do with keeping pre-draft ideas current. 

 

He said it was film study and I'll take his word for it. In then end analsyst opinions don't matter. 

[whatdrought]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He said it was film study and I'll take his word for it. In then end analsyst opinions don't matter. 

 

I suppose it depends on what he values within a QB’s game.

 

Seems to me that if passing is valued then Jackson is out.

 

If ball security is valued, then Darnold is out.

 

And if winning (or at least helping a team show some dang thing) is valued rhen Rosen is out.

 

all of which are knocks (in lesser amounts perhaps, but non-the-less) of Allen as well.

 

So, you are correct. It doesn’t matter, and we will see.

[Mat68]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

To have Lamar Jackson in front of Allen is absolutely laughable. To have Rosen in front of Allen is sketchy at best. To have Jackson and Rosen in front of Trubisky is ridiculous. Credibility level for any of these nerds? -3

He is a more efficient passer and rusher.  He has more yards on half the rushes.

[26CornerBlitz]

14 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

I suppose it depends on what he values within a QB’s game.

 

Seems to me that if passing is valued then Jackson is out.

 

If ball security is valued, then Darnold is out.

 

And if winning (or at least helping a team show some dang thing) is valued rhen Rosen is out.

 

all of which are knocks (in lesser amounts perhaps, but non-the-less) of Allen as well.

 

So, you are correct. It doesn’t matter, and we will see.

 

Jackson is a different paradigm as a QB as a true dual threat. Darnold shows quite a bit in terms of passing traits and playmaking on a bad team, Rosen showed well earlier, but things have declined as his situation has gotten progressively worse with a terrible OL and weapons getting injured. Allen's situation has gotten better with the speed element added  by Foster and McKenzie along with his own development.  Long way to go for all of them. 

Edited December 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz