Peterman will never live down the 5-pick half . . .

[Dr. K]

. . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead.

 

This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him, even one praising him, will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously.

 

 

There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. 

 

Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. 

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Dr. K

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The only way to erase it is to play some games and get some wins.  

 

Even then some here will never let it go.   

[EasternOHBillsFan]

He has a chance to prove to us that he has the poise and the movement in the pocket to make the GOOD throws necessary.

 

Do that against the Ravens IN Baltimore and against the Chargers and come close or win, it will be forgotten.

[cd1]

5 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

. . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead.

 

This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously.

 

 

There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. 

 

Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. 

 

 

 

 

Seriously?  You do know that QBs in today's NFL do not call their own plays, right?

 

So, to say "he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod" is BS.

 

Make no mistake about it, Peterman will "never live it down" because nobody fans will make sure of it.

 

Mark my words, it won't be long before Josh Allen starts to collect his very own band of hangmen just waiting to hang him every chance THEY get.

[Success]

Didn’t Peyton Manning have a 6 pick game?

 

[Warcodered]

He tied the record for most picks in a first start in half a game. It's going to be on him forever the only thing he can change is the perception of it. If he somehow becomes very successful in the league it's  a funny anecdote if he flames out then it was a sign of things to come.

Edited August 29, 2018 by Warcodered

[Augie]

Peterman was under fire possibly worse than Allen was during PS game #3. Young guys need SOME help. It was sad to humorous, but it was real. Ugh....

[Happy]

10 minutes ago, Success said:

Didn’t Peyton Manning have a 6 pick game?

 

 

Yes, he did; and against the Chargers, as well.  https://bleacherreport.com/articles/3647-colts-chargers-a-nightmare-game-for-peyton-manning

 

So did Fitzy.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/25/ryan-fitzpatricks-six-interceptions-amazed-the-internet/?utm_term=.d851ea38529c

Edited August 29, 2018 by Happy Gilmore

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Augie said:

Peterman was under fire possibly worse than Allen was during PS game #3. Young guys need SOME help. It was sad to humorous, but it was real. Ugh....

 

What you saw was a lack of pocket mobility, total panic, a complete loss of composure, and no regard for ball security. 

[Dr. K]

18 minutes ago, cd1 said:

 

Seriously?  You do know that QBs in today's NFL do not call their own plays, right?

 

So, to say "he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod" is BS.

 

Make no mistake about it, Peterman will "never live it down" because nobody fans will make sure of it.

 

Mark my words, it won't be long before Josh Allen starts to collect his very own band of hangmen just waiting to hang him every chance THEY get.

The playcalls could be exactly the same. The knock against Tyrod was the he was afraid to pull the trigger for fear of turning the ball over. Peterman went into that Chargers game with the determination that he would not hesitate to throw, and he paid the price. He's much more discerning now. 

 

But because of that half, every time he throws a pick or a near-pick, the announcer will mention his 5-pick game. Other QBs will not have to face that; he always will. 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Dr. K

[Augie]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

What you saw was a lack of pocket mobility, total panic, a complete loss of composure, and no regard for ball security. 

 

So....it was a mediocre thing? 

 

It was a generational disaster, but it wasn’t all on the QB. DL came in unblocked. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Augie said:

 

So....it was a mediocre thing? 

 

It was a generational disaster, but it wasn’t all on the QB. DL came in unblocked. 

 

Regardless. There was no need to become a baker to produce a multitude of turnovers.  Take a sack or throw it away to live for another day. 

[Lfod]

Honestly I have very little to go on to formulate an opinion. Looks like a champ in preseason. He absolutely crashed and burned during his debut. Looked better during the Colts game but still didn't finish. Again he is looking absolutely clutch in preseason again. 

 

The doubters and naysayers could be right. They could be dead wrong. I'm on the fence. The only problem I have with his doubters is they remove any room for improvement. It's just not logically possible for Nate to be anything but that 5 interception joke. 

 

That and they bend over backwards to dismiss Peterman and Prop up Allen. The closest they will come is meh the O-Line sucks start Nate or AJMcarron to get killed. Hey it's progress! Even though they look goofy mentioning AJMcarron. 

 

I'm in full support of Peterman starting but I'm still going to be cringing worried that he will crash and burn. It's going to be a very nervous excitement for me.

 

I will be excited if he starts. This is the QB I want to start. 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Lfod

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Regardless. There was no need to become a baker to produce a multitude of turnovers.  Take a sack or throw it away to live for another day. 

 

I’ve been watching forever, and that was the worst (but possibly most amusing!) half of football I’ve ever seen. He got punched in the mouth almost immediately on every throw, and it got almost humorous. 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Augie

[1ManRaid]

Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda...

 

Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda...

 

Yup, will never live it down, no matter what.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, 1ManRaid said:

Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda...

 

Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda...

 

Yup, will never live it down, no matter what.

 

Totally fair comparison to two Hall of Fame QBs. 

[Dr. K]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

Brett Favre, who holds the all time record for career INTs, yadda yadda...

 

Peyton Manning, who holds the record for most INTs thrown by a rookie, yadda yadda...

 

Yup, will never live it down, no matter what.

If he turns into Favre or Manning (unlikely) then they will start with it as an ironic comment on how great he later became. 

[RememberTheRockpile]

19 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He tied the record for most picks in a first start in half a game. It's going to be on him forever the only thing he can change is the perception of it. 

So who did he tie for the most picks? 

[1ManRaid]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Totally fair comparison to two Hall of Fame QBs. 

So Peyton started his career as a HOF QB?  I think you missed the point of them "living down" those INTs by BECOMING HOF QBs.

[GoodHands15]

44 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

. . . . no matter how long he plays in the league or what he does or does not accomplish. If he dies seventy years from now, the first line of his obituary will be , "Nathan Peterman, who threw five interceptions in his first half of football, died today at the age of ninety-three." He might as well make "Fivepicks" his middle name and get it tattooed on his forehead.

 

This is just an observation, not a value judgment. That one half of football will hang around his neck unless and until he does something spectacular like win a Super Bowl, and even then it will be the first thing any story about him, even one praising him, will start with. Granted, it can't be denied that he did the deed; he was trying to be the anti-Tyrod and he erred in the other direction, disastrously.

 

 

There have been QBs in the league who have less to offer but had decent careers--that's my opinion, not some universal truth. But it's kind of a drag to contemplate having a single afternoon characterize you for the rest of your career. 

 

Allen is suffering something similar, where the conventional wisdom of his abilities or non-abilities--completion percentage, for instance--is the story line that he will have to fight against for a long time. But in his case I don't think it's quite as large an albatross. 

 

 

 

 

If you take all the letters in all our quarterbacks initials, it spells JANPAM

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, 1ManRaid said:

So Peyton started his career as a HOF QB?  I think you missed the point of them "living down" those INTs by BECOMING HOF QBs.

 

I think you missed the point of a cavernous talent difference that made Manning the 1st pick in the draft with the expectation of a great career. 

[Dr. K]

2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

So Peyton started his career as a HOF QB?  I think you missed the point of them "living down" those INTs by BECOMING HOF QBs.

Easy Peasy

[Lfod]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I think you missed the point of a cavernous talent difference that made Manning the 1st pick in the draft with the expectation of a great career. 

Tom Brady should of been picked top of the first round. It didn't happen. The NFL is sometimes unpredictable. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Lfod said:

Tom Brady should of been picked top of the first round. It didn't happen. The NFL is sometimes unpredictable. 

 

I knew it was just a matter of time before someone brought that up.    Brady never panicked like that even in his early days as a game manager. Are you predicting a Brady level career for Peterman? 

[BADOLBILZ]

He needs a nickname or a logo or something.

 

Five piece?

 

5x?

 

Could've been worse.........he had seven drives in that half:

 

-5 of them resulted in pics

-1 was just handoffs to McCoy for a TD(which I guess was the one drive he wasn't trying to be the anti-Tyrod)

-and the OTHER drive he fumbled a snap and then threw a would-be pic six that the Chargers CB dropped.    Should've been a six pack(which incidentally would not have sat well with him or his congregation as 6 is the number of the beast and so forth).

[Augie]

Brady had some attempt at blocking in front of him. Just sayin’ 

[Lfod]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I knew it was just a matter of time before someone brought that up.    Brady never panicked like that even in his early days as a game manager. Are you predicting a Brady level career for Peterman? 

Is he not the best QB of his time? Any first round picks knocking him off the pedestal? 

[26CornerBlitz]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

Brady had some attempt at blocking in front of him. Just sayin’ 

 

Did you see Allen coughing up the ball on Sunday even under heavy pressure?  Nope.  Peterman looked like a HS QB throwing the ball up for grabs.  It was shockingly bad. 

 

2 minutes ago, Lfod said:

Is he not the best QB of his time? Any first round picks knocking him off the pedestal? 

 

And that has what to do with the beloved Mr. Peterman? 

 

He has a better chance of being Tuel rather than Brady. 

Edited August 29, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[K-9]

Never live it down in whose mind? Peterman has already let it go; certainly not an albatross as far as he goes. And that’s all that matters. I’m sure he could give two schits if anyone else can’t let it go. 

[Lfod]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Did you see Allen coughing up the ball on Sunday even under heavy pressure?  Nope.  Peterman looked like a HS QB throwing the ball up for grabs.  It was shockingly bad. 

 

 

And that has what to do with the beloved Mr. Peterman? 

It wasn't about Peterman as much as to say sometimes the NFL is unpredictable. It's a good thing because I wouldn't be a fan if everything was predetermined ahead of time. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Lfod said:

It wasn't about Peterman as much as to say sometimes the NFL is unpredictable. It's a good thing because I wouldn't be a fan if everything was predetermined ahead of time. 

 

We'll see when he's next between the white lines in real game action that could be in Baltimore on 9/9. 

[Dr. K]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Never live it down in whose mind? Peterman has already let it go; certainly not an albatross as far as he goes. And that’s all that matters. I’m sure he could give two schits if anyone else can’t let it go. 

Of course that's what he's doing. That's what he has to do. But you're naive if you think that anyone in the media or sports reporting or the vast majority of casual football fans who are not advocates for Peterman are going to let this go. 

[Lfod]

6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

We'll see when he's next between the white lines in real game action that could be in Baltimore on 9/9. 

I'll give you credit. A few people didn't want Tyrod benched for Peterman and I think I remember you being one of those people. You are justified to sound off. 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Lfod

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Did you see Allen coughing up the ball on Sunday even under heavy pressure?  Nope.  Peterman looked like a HS QB throwing the ball up for grabs.  It was shockingly bad. 

 

And yet....Peterman is the better QB for game # 1. Allen needs a little time to get ready. If you could add the Allen arm to the Peterman brain, we overtake the Patriots  in a hurry. 

[BADOLBILZ]

Just now, K-9 said:

Never live it down in whose mind? Peterman has already let it go; certainly not an albatross as far as he goes. And that’s all that matters. I’m sure he could give two schits if anyone else can’t let it go. 

 

 

So you don't think it bothers him in the least being asked about it constantly?

 

I think you are probably wrong about that.

 

It's nice that he has been able to compartmentalize it out......... but he's still shown a propensity to throw very interceptable balls to the most vulnerable place on the field.............short memory is for cornerbacks.........QB's need to know their limitations.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Lfod said:

I'll give you credit. A lot of people didn't want Tyrod benched for Peterman and I think I remember you being one of those people. You are justified to sound off. 

 

I was adamant that he wasn't ready, but he was far worse than I ever could have imagined. It was embarrassing. 

[Fadingpain]

Meh.  The 5 picks were historically bad but it's in the past now.

 

Nate's career has hardly begun.  If he proves to be a good QB, the Chargers game won't mean squat, other than to haters with an agenda.

 

 

[Needle]

A situation like that can sometimes fuel a person's drive to work harder or focus more. 

 

I dont think Peterman needs to be Brady in order to be satisfied with his career.

 

Half wits need him to fail, so they can congratulate themselves on a message board.

 

[K-9]

36 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

Of course that's what he's doing. That's what he has to do. But you're naive if you think that anyone in the media or sports reporting or the vast majority of casual football fans who are not advocates for Peterman are going to let this go. 

I’m not naive about it at all as I know you’re right about the media, etc.. I just couldn’t care less what the media or casual fans use to define a player’s career. All that matters to me is how he gets off the mat and responds to the adversity. So far, so good in that regard. Other players may have been crushed completely after that. He seems to have used it to motivate himself. That’s a nice trait for a QB to possess.

[K-9]

43 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So you don't think it bothers him in the least being asked about it constantly?

 

I think you are probably wrong about that.

 

It's nice that he has been able to compartmentalize it out......... but he's still shown a propensity to throw very interceptable balls to the most vulnerable place on the field.............short memory is for cornerbacks.........QB's need to know their limitations.

Is he asked about it constantly? By whom? Anyway, no, I don’t think it bothers him; I think it motivates him if anything. 

 

Yes, he still throws highly interceptable balls. 

 

Yes, QBs need to play within themselves and their abilities. 

 

And no, short memories are also required. QBs can’t let a bad play, series, or game impact their next play. They have no chance if they do.