Josh Rosen vs Josh Allen: Game 1 Comparison

[26CornerBlitz]

16 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:

 

I would compare this to Allen. That team did Rosen zero favors. 

 

I liked what I saw from the kid. That would be pick 6 wasnt too pretty though.

 

Good performance overall under the circumstances. The should have been pick six was a bad one for sure.  I'd like to see what he could do with their 1st team offense with good protection and Johnson/Fitz on the field as weapons. 

 

 

Edited August 12, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Dr. Who]

Way too early for this, though if Rosen had played lights out, Scorp and a few others would be relentlessly crowing, so thanks Josh Rosen for being average. Personally, I think all of the top four have a chance to be good qbs. The main thing from the Bills' perspective is that Josh Allen so far looks like a plausible franchise qb down the line. If he hits his ceiling, he will be the best of the bunch because no one can match his superlative physical gifts. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

20 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I agree with the OP.  I'm happy with the QB Buffalo drafted.  However, one preseason game apiece is far too small a sample size to make any kind of valid assessment.

 

...CERTAINLY......may be "live ammo", but they're rubber bullets.....need a bare minimum of one regular season (16 games) to begin any type of valid assessment with REAL bullets IMO.....remember reading an article a few years back (wish I could find it) when Kaep appeared to be on the cusp after 20 something NFL games......the writer interviewed an NFL exec (no name given) who said a realistic window of assessment is 50 (FIFTY!) GAMES...

[JaCrispy]

7 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Glad someone noted the center. Dude can't snap for ****. 

Just like our backup center 

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Just based on watching their preseason games and not what I thought of them before, I’d go:

 

1. Baker
2. Allen
3. Darnold
4. Toss-up between Rosen and Lamar
6. Rudolph

 

with a big dropoff after Darnold

 

Agreed, except I'd switch Mayfield and Darnold. The top 3 were pretty close, they each showed something to be excited about. Rosen looked well below them IMO. You have to be able to deal with pressure in the NFL and I don't think he has it.

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

escaping the pocket before resetting and completing his best pass of the night, a 21-yard strike to tight end Gabe Holmes.

 

His "best pass of the night" was behind the intended receiver and should have had more YAC. If that's the best example of Rosen handling pressure he will not be a successful QB.

[Alphadawg7]

9 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Honestly, I was impressed by all of the top four quarterbacks' debuts. I think it's going to be a special draft class. I'm not sure who will separate themselves, despite the wild hyperbole on here, but it will be fascinating to watch. God I hope it's Allen. Loved his pocket presence, demeanor, and conviction with throws. Like others have said man do I have to see him without the 3s. Rosen also played his game well, save for one truly bad read. 

 

All 4?  Rosen was not impressive.  The other 3 definitely.  Means nothing, it’s one preseason game and first live action of all their careers.  But 3 yards per pass is not an impressive debut, so let’s keep it real about it.

 

 

[Trogdor]

1 hour ago, NewDayBills said:

Didn't Kolton Miller OT go like 15 overall? And then Scott Quessenbury went midround too. He had at least 2 future NFL draftees on his OL.

 

Watch the games. 29 sacks allowed is pretty terrible. It's possible that two guys weren't enough when mixed with the other crappy starters. Arizona was 31st last year, so it's probably more of the same. 

[26CornerBlitz]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Agreed, except I'd switch Mayfield and Darnold. The top 3 were pretty close, they each showed something to be excited about. Rosen looked well below them IMO. You have to be able to deal with pressure in the NFL and I don't think he has it.

 

His "best pass of the night" was behind the intended receiver and should have had more YAC. If that's the best example of Rosen handling pressure he will not be a successful QB.

 

Poor take with everything he did on that play to evade the rush and make a good throw.  IMO his best was the back shoulder throw to Little.  You were slow on Watson last year. 

[LABILLBACKER]

9 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

It looked like Rosen was a bit flustered for a moment, resulting in the delay of game. He made some great throws, though. Took some hits and didn't break in half, much to the surprise of many here...

Oh trust me, he will break in half. It's only a matter of time. In 40 years of watching UCLA football, he's one of the most fragile QBs I've ever seen.

[Scorp83]

11 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Josh Rosen Gm 1 Stats:

6-13 41 yds 0 TD, 0 Int

 

Josh Allen Gm 1 Stats:

9-19 116 yds 1 TD, 0 Int

 

Initial impression is Rosen looked like an average rookie, nothing special about his game.  He looks a little frail for a QB especially compared to Allen.

 

I'm feeling a little better after seeing these two play part of a game.  I think the Bills made the right choice in the draft but I was originally thinking they were going for Rosen.

 

Josh Allen while inaccurate on some plays, just seems to have the physical gifts that really stand out over Rosen.  Time will tell but I can see why the Bills are hopeful with Allen based on his physical stature and how he fires the ball.  Let's hope he develops into our guy of the future!  

 

Go Bills!!

Hmmm interesting 

[B Fan in LA]

 

I haven't seen a single comment about the performance Cardale Jones put in last night.

He's the guy that nobody compares to Josh Allen because it doesn't fit the flow.

 

You know, that Allen has size, and a big gun.

 

Well, Cardale has a bigger gun, he was on our team last year, and now it looks like he's the #2 guy for the Rams.

And he looked pretty darn good last night.

Just saying................

 

[Fadingpain]

11 hours ago, BuffaloButt said:

Josh Rosen Gm 1 Stats:

6-13 41 yds 0 TD, 0 Int

 

Josh Allen Gm 1 Stats:

9-19 116 yds 1 TD, 0 Int

 

Initial impression is Rosen looked like an average rookie, nothing special about his game.  He looks a little frail for a QB especially compared to Allen.

 

I'm feeling a little better after seeing these two play part of a game.  I think the Bills made the right choice in the draft but I was originally thinking they were going for Rosen.

 

Josh Allen while inaccurate on some plays, just seems to have the physical gifts that really stand out over Rosen.  Time will tell but I can see why the Bills are hopeful with Allen based on his physical stature and how he fires the ball.  Let's hope he develops into our guy of the future!  

 

Go Bills!!

Forming opinions after each played a portion of their first preseason game ever?

 

Seems reasonable.

 

 

[Paulus]

3 hours ago, Jaywrizzo said:

Hahahahahahaha....Bills fan

And, the best thing about Allen is he also has the highest ceiling. Meaning, this kid will just keep getting better. I am stoked for the Allen/Darn old era. And, I'm even more stoked to see the Brady Era end. 

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Jaywrizzo said:

Hahahahahahaha....Bills fan

Yeah....bcuz Aaron Rogers is built like Cam.....or Brady for that matter. Your comment holds no weight.

 

Aaron Rodgers has supreme mobility, something Rosen does not have and brady has the Worlds quickest release 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Buffalo716

[EersN'Bills]

11 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

On a side note, that Cardinals color commentator sounded exactly like Jesse Ventura

 

Hahaha, yeah that's Orchard Park's own Ron Wolfley!

 

Was also a fullback/Special Teamer for WVU and the Cardinals in the 80s. His brother, Craig, played at Syracuse and for the Steelers (I think he still does sideline reporting for their radio broadcast too).

 

He does sound like he should be announcing WWE matches.

Edited August 12, 2018 by EersN'Bills

[GimmeSomeProcess]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

All 4?  Rosen was not impressive.  The other 3 definitely.  Means nothing, it’s one preseason game and first live action of all their careers.  But 3 yards per pass is not an impressive debut, so let’s keep it real about it.

 

 

I agree, have no idea who people are saying Rosen looked impressive. No wow throughs and looked flustered under pressure. I was a huge Rosen fan presdraft. Though what I’ve been reading and seeing since OTAs makes me think we made the right call.

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Forming opinions after each played a portion of their first preseason game ever?

 

Seems reasonable.

 

 

It should since people and a lot of them have formed opinions about since the draft. 

[BillsfanAZ]

12 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

On a side note, that Cardinals color commentator sounded exactly like Jesse Ventura

It is Ron Woofley. He played for the Cardinals for 7 yrs but is originally from Blasdell

[downunderbill]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Forming opinions after each played a portion of their first preseason game ever?

 

Seems reasonable.

 

 

Hahaha, You formed your opinion on Allen while he was on the plane to Buffalo.

[FearLess Price]

9 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

It’s hard to make any conclusions based off one half of the first preseason game. 

 

Facts. What this dude said.

 

I looked at both game throwa.

#1 its way too early but a lot of yall sound like u saw the stats and made ur judgement on that. Looking at all the throws tho Rosen looked decent. He had a play where he side stepped then stepped up and the pocket and made a great throw. Hes not as mobile as Allen but he sure is more accurate with the ball. Also Rosen was playing vs the 2s and Allen vs the 3s so its not that close of comparrison. You wanna root for JA thats great, we all do,  some of yall hatin on Rosen is pure homerism bias. I thought all 4 QBs did great, for where they individuallly are, in their preseason games. Even LJax hadna great 2nd PS game. Its too early to tell so enjoy the PS. And dont use BS to make urselves feel better about our pick. JA will have his time just let it ride and take that homer shlong out ur mouth.

 

We're Bills fans lets act like it......and put Rosen thru a table.

[Doc Brown]

50 minutes ago, EersN'Bills said:

 

Hahaha, yeah that's Orchard Park's own Ron Wolfley!

 

Was also a fullback/Special Teamer for WVU and the Cardinals in the 80s. His brother, Craig, played at Syracuse and for the Steelers (I think he still does sideline reporting for their radio broadcast too).

 

He does sound like he should be announcing WWE matches.

Thanks.  I swore it was Jesse Ventura and then thought why the hell would he be calling a preseason Cardinals game?  It was entertaining color commentary for a change.