Putin Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, White Linen said: We traded away the QB that was the only reason we made the playoffs. How can we not expect a massive drop off in wins - even though at almost every position except left guard and center, we're better? Some would argue we made the playoffs DESPITE the QB /#31 passing attack in the NFL last year ! 3 games last year where we could only manage 3 POINTS!!!!! That’s because our QB was forced to be a QB !! How many games have we won last year when our D was NOT lights out? I’ll bet by week 5 that’s IF Tyrod is still the starter Cleveland will be screaming for a rookie to start !!!!! 9 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Cleveland should be better but their biggest problem is I think Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Cincinnati will all win 8+. I hope Cleveland wins 9 games and misses the playoffs Edited August 9, 2018 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t think that the Bills number is ridiculous but I also don’t think that they are the worst team in football. I think that the Jets, Colts, Dolphins and a few others could be worse. 5-11 or 6-10 wouldn’t shock me though. The OL is bad, the pass catchers bad and QBs bad (unless Allen bursts on the scene). The offense could be AWFUL. The defense should be really good. They are a year away from being good though IMO. I think that the Bills' issue will be that the awful offense is going to kill the defense's effectiveness -- they're going to have to defend too many short fields, they're going to be on the field too much, and if the defense can't score TDs, the Bills offense isn't going to score many, so how long is the defense going to be able to hold up under the pressure of not only doing their own job but constantly trying to recover from offensive mistakes? I agree that Josh Allen is the Bills only hope for offensive respectability of any kind, but that's not going to happen this season because without an NFL caliber OL or WR corps, not only is the passing game DOA, but the running game is going to be an anemic shadow of itself because of the poor OL and no threat of a passing game. I think getting a top 3 pick in the 2019 draft is very likely, and the #1 pick a real possibility. Getting 5 wins will be quite an accomplishment ... and I wouldn't bet more than I can afford to lose on them winning at least that many games. The Bills may not be the worst team in the NFL, but I think that they are the most unbalanced, and I think that's why they're going to lose a lot of games despite having a what appears to be a stout defense ... and that's not even factoring in injuries. Edited August 9, 2018 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: 6 or 6.5. So we went down some. Bills won 9 and made the playoffs but it was one of the worst Bills teams since the 90's. Strange as that sounds. That's the reason for so many changes. Basically the only constant is McCoy and the secondary. My friend - never ever forget The Process. The Process is constant and that is what will lead us to the promised land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Until any of our QB's prove to be capable in real action along side of our OL and WR's this is the treatment we will get.. Most of us feel the Defense is going to be solid, but no matter how awesome our D is if we are going 3 and out on Offense often our D will be gassed. So it all starts tonight and it really is almost all about the Offense and how it transitions from a starting QB trade, 3 OL 1 traded, 1 medically retired or 1 went off the rails on the crazy train, and our very unknown situation at WR Edited August 9, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I’ll shoot the messenger if I want It's your second amendment right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bockeye said: My friend - never ever forget The Process. The Process is constant and that is what will lead us to the promised land. Without McCoy our offense is 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Until any of our QB's prove to be capable in real action along side of our OL and WR's this is the treatment we will get.. Most of us feel the Defense is going to be solid, but no matter how awesome our D is if we are going 3 and out on Offense often our D will be gassed. So it all starts tonight and it really is almost all about the Offense and how it transitions from a starting QB trade, 3 OL 1 traded, 1 medically retired or 1 went off the rails on the crazy train, and our very unknown situation at WR Great point ? !! For our D to be great will need at least our offense to be competent , that means moving the chains and getting that first down ( especially) when our D is gassed and have been on the field for a while 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I know for a fact RJ Bell isn’t even his real name. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Not an unrealistic number. If the bounces go our way like they did last season I could see 9 wins. If those bounces even out I could see 6-7 wins. If the bounces go against us 5 wins isn’t out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Without an experienced quarterback and with an offensive line generally regarded as mediocre, it's all about defense. Seven or eight wins would appear to be right under the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: “Buffalo, I’m coming for ya!” Bring it on. how many did these tools think we'd win last year? Consider the source. 19-0 Baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Much of th national media had us below 6 wins last year too. And that probably would have been about right except for our wild and highly unrepeatable giveaway/takeaway ratio for the first half of the season. We're one of the leading regression candidates this year in the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Only ? LOL. . ...why not??...you can't tell me those 65 yd PASSING GAMES did not bring back memories of Marchibroda/Kelly, Coryel/Fouts,etc.......hell, even with some of the TBD pundits already labeling Allen a bust, he came close with 50 yds.......on ONE BOMB......the definition of DOWNFIELD has been drilled into the WR corp 24/7 because they have no idea where the hell that was yesteryear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 This is only because of the uncertainty at QB. If McCarron or Allen can play better than Taylor, we’ll be a tough out for any team. And speaking of uncertainty at QB, the overhyped Patsies have Hoyer backing up a guy who just turned 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The part of me that believes we are building for next year when/if Allen is ready would love this and, Nick Bosa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Over for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Success said: This is only because of the uncertainty at QB. If McCarron or Allen can play better than Taylor, we’ll be a tough out for any team. And speaking of uncertainty at QB, the overhyped Patsies have Hoyer backing up a guy who just turned 41. I don’t think that it is just the QB. I also don’t expect it to be much (or any) better. The OL is way worse than a year ago. The receivers were really bad last year and are again. The 5.5 number is because the big money people are pounding the under (which was 6.5 I think). The number doesnt feel that far off to me but the projection of the worst team in football does. The Bills are really good on one side of the ball and are well coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Have to take the over. Ridiculous how underrated we are at this point, when we made the playoffs last year. But Bu Bu we lost Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetar Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 For the last couple decades, can't really go wrong with predicting 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I love how so many people suddenly love the chargers. Can’t wait for the egg on their face with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Much of th national media had us below 6 wins last year too. they were right 19 out of the last 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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