Cornette's Commentary Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 30 year old Randy Moss fetched a 4th round pick and went on to set the single season TD catch record. Not interested in giving up a 1st whatsoever. Who was throwing the ball to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 We still need to find our QB before we worry about spending 100 million on a WR. We have put the cart before the horse half a dozen times in the past 15 years. No more. Get the QB. And go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Who was throwing the ball to him? Doesn't effect the point whatsoever. He was a 30 year old, disgruntled but still excellent WR. He fetched a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't effect the point whatsoever. He was a 30 year old, disgruntled but still excellent WR. He fetched a 4th. He fetched a 4th because Lane Kiffin didn't know what he was doing. Dimitroff would ask for at least a 1st for Julio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't effect the point whatsoever. He was a 30 year old, disgruntled but still excellent WR. He fetched a 4th. Moss was coming off a couple of down seasons though. JJ is still very much at the peak of his game. People thought Moss was washed up and done. And if he didn't have Brady throwing him the ball he may have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: does that include threatening a player to take a pay cut or be released as well? There are penalties for the team to do that as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 We are looking for our QB and building for our future. His window will have passed by the time we peak. Bad timing here, even if you wanted to pay a WR top dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I don't know why fans defend the teams so much. Teams cut players all the time when they are under contract, or try to renegotiate their contracts for smaller cap hits. If teams can do that, the players should be able to hold out. It makes it more balanced. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, MJS said: I don't know why fans defend the teams so much. Teams cut players all the time when they are under contract, or try to renegotiate their contracts for smaller cap hits. If teams can do that, the players should be able to hold out. It makes it more balanced. I think the dead money should go to the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Virgil said: There are penalties for the team to do that as well ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, MJS said: I don't know why fans defend the teams so much. Teams cut players all the time when they are under contract, or try to renegotiate their contracts for smaller cap hits. If teams can do that, the players should be able to hold out. It makes it more balanced. I agree 100 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Who was throwing the ball to him? Who were the idiots who made that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Doesn't effect the point whatsoever. He was a 30 year old, disgruntled but still excellent WR. He fetched a 4th. I don't really think you can compare the two. Sure Moss was a great player, but when he was traded he was coming off 2 pretty bad seasons for his standards. The year he got traded he came off a season where he played 13 games and got 42 catches for 553 yards. The year before that he played 16 games and had 60 catches for 1005 yards. Julio is coming off back to back 1400 plus yards seasons, is a year younger, and is a class act. Randy Moss was a complete head case who wasn't producing that well as he was reaching his 30s. What I am trying to say is for the bills to get Julio , it will take A LOT more than a 4th round pick Edited July 24, 2018 by billsfan11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just gonna leave this here. Julio has spent most of the summer working out/hanging out with TO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just gonna leave this here. Julio has spent most of the summer working out/hanging out with TO... Blehhhh. The falcons opened the can of worms when they drafted Ridley. It’s bad enough guys like Watkins will make more than Julio this season because of how his contract was structured and now the slight of looking at his eventual replacement. The contract is the same thing Gronk is going through. Making less than lesser TEs if he looks at it on a one year basis. The players are up against it in the NFL and I try not to fault them for maximizing their value. It does suck seeing stars sit out or come in during regular season and end up pulling a hammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: https://929thegame.radio.com/articles/atlanta-falcons-will-reportedly-not-rework-contract-wide-receiver-julio-jones Beane Make the Call. See what that package is that they would move him for. Until we know we have a QB who can deliver the ball, wasting big money on a top WR is foolish. See Failed Sammy Watkins Project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Thunderstruck said: the most physically dominant WR in the game, and it isn't even close. i'll bet matt ryan signs up to give half of his salary to jones to keep him around. half of his stats are thanks to the jump balls this guy hauls in. I dunno about half, but there's no question that just as AJ Green makes Dalton look better than he is, so Julio Jones makes Ryan look better than he is. Allegedly the Falcons have informed Jones they have no $$ to rework his contract, but I do wonder if he'd be open to a compromise that they could afford - say, guaranteeing part or all of his salary etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I dunno about half, but there's no question that just as AJ Green makes Dalton look better than he is, so Julio Jones makes Ryan look better than he is. but who doesn't love them a little hyperbole early in the morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I don't really think you can compare the two. Sure Moss was a great player, but when he was traded he was coming off 2 pretty bad seasons for his standards. The year he got traded he came off a season where he played 13 games and got 42 catches for 553 yards. The year before that he played 16 games and had 60 catches for 1005 yards. Julio is coming off back to back 1400 plus yards seasons, is a year younger, and is a class act. Randy Moss was a complete head case who wasn't producing that well as he was reaching his 30s. What I am trying to say is for the bills to get Julio , it will take A LOT more than a 4th round pick I don't think a 4th will get him, but I don't think many teams will offer much more. Maybe a 3rd. Ultimately I don't think he's going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Until there are guaranteed contracts, this will keep happening. I get why fans don’t like, but are you going to care if he blows out his knee and never earns a cent more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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