OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Head Coach fired good portion of his hand picked staff after one year and before that he dumped several good coaches/ The environment is not "stable". .....isn't the "my guys versus their guys" the norm leading to instability be it players, coaches or even Admin/FO?.....I believe (for whatever reason) Crossman is the lone holdover....but if some of these guys who get dumped hook on with another club in short order, they must see value in the guy's skills IMO.....
NewEra Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Ifartalot said: Brian Daboll's coaching resume': William & Mary (1997) Restrictive earnings coach Michigan State (1998–1999) Graduate assistant New England Patriots (2000–2001) Defensive coaching assistant New England Patriots (2002–2006) Wide receivers coach New York Jets (2007–2008) Quarterbacks coach Cleveland Browns (2009–2010) Offensive coordinator Miami Dolphins (2011) Offensive coordinator Kansas City Chiefs (2012) Offensive coordinator New England Patriots (2013) Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2014–2016) Tight ends coach Alabama (2017) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach Buffalo Bills (2018–present) Offensive coordinator Twelve jobs in 20 years.....hmmm ? Agreed. That’s more than a bit scary. I wonder how many of those positions he was fired from
Augie Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Head Coach fired good portion of his hand picked staff after one year and before that he dumped several good coaches/ The environment is not "stable". The life of a coach.... Must be rough on young families with kids.
Alaska Darin Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 I don't know about Daboll's relationship with Colt McCoy but I agree with Jimmy Johnson: "I don't believe in football intelligence and being dumb off the field," he said. "If he's dumb off the field, he's going to make dumb problems off the field and that's going to be just as big a problem as being dumb on the field." On his "Football Life" program he said: "Hit me in the head with a hammer the next time I want to draft a dumb guy." Perhaps McCoy was a little hard-headed and that's one of the reasons Daboll dealt with him the way he did. I've probably interviewed 1000 candidates for jobs in my professional life. I've been able to discount probably 90% of candidates within the first 5 minutes of the interview. If you can't reason with someone, they're going to be virtually impossible to deal with on a daily basis.
DC Tom Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. That’s more than a bit scary. I wonder how many of those positions he was fired from I wonder how many he was a lame duck because his head coach was fired. I'm not going to label Daboll as having a temper issue based on one store about him yelling at one player.
Saxum Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. That’s more than a bit scary. I wonder how many of those positions he was fired from Some of those jobs are promotions so those should not be concerns. In cases where head coach was let go unless you have a good reputation you will be let go unless there are limits on staff funding (and there should be).
purple haze Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 Coaches yell all the time. That's sports. Listen to what they're saying not how they're saying it.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, QB Bills said: Can I patent "just throw Daboll!" when we all get sick of his old school, run-first scheme? I'm guessing this happens by week 3. Only if you tell it to his face. I dare you.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, #34fan said: Hm. -Where there's smoke... Yup. Although some people just won't listen... https://www.yahoo.com/news/golfers-playing-next-volcano-spewing-203945519.html
#34fan Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yup. Although some people just won't listen... https://www.yahoo.com/news/golfers-playing-next-volcano-spewing-203945519.html Hey... A tee-time is a tee time!
Sky Diver Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Most interesting of all: he joined Mangini before the 2007 season, and shortly afterward (September 9, 2007 to be precise) Spygate happened. He also followed Mangini to Cleveland and served under him both years he was there. Yet the Pats took him back. Hmm. The dude's been involved in a lot of soap opera drama over the years. (He was also in NE for deflategate.) Have you tracked his whereabouts during the JFK assasination? 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, purple haze said: Coaches yell all the time. That's sports. Listen to what they're saying not how they're saying it. ...LMAO...shades of Holler Kollar................
CommonCents Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 If you can’t handle a coach yelling in your headset your chances of being a star were probably pretty low anyways.
fansince88 Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Ifartalot said: Brian Daboll's coaching resume': William & Mary (1997) Restrictive earnings coach Michigan State (1998–1999) Graduate assistant New England Patriots (2000–2001) Defensive coaching assistant New England Patriots (2002–2006) Wide receivers coach New York Jets (2007–2008) Quarterbacks coach Cleveland Browns (2009–2010) Offensive coordinator Miami Dolphins (2011) Offensive coordinator Kansas City Chiefs (2012) Offensive coordinator New England Patriots (2013) Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2014–2016) Tight ends coach Alabama (2017) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach Buffalo Bills (2018–present) Offensive coordinator Twelve jobs in 20 years.....hmmm ? Highly sought after?
Peter Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Ifartalot said: Brian Daboll's coaching resume': William & Mary (1997) Restrictive earnings coach Michigan State (1998–1999) Graduate assistant New England Patriots (2000–2001) Defensive coaching assistant New England Patriots (2002–2006) Wide receivers coach New York Jets (2007–2008) Quarterbacks coach Cleveland Browns (2009–2010) Offensive coordinator Miami Dolphins (2011) Offensive coordinator Kansas City Chiefs (2012) Offensive coordinator New England Patriots (2013) Offensive assistant New England Patriots (2014–2016) Tight ends coach Alabama (2017) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach Buffalo Bills (2018–present) Offensive coordinator Twelve jobs in 20 years.....hmmm ? The good news is that the Pats seem to be impressed with him such that they have hired him multiple times. The bad news is that it appears that he has not impressed as an OC in the NFL. As I recall, down here in Miami, Daboll was not well received. Let's hope that Daboll going home to Buffalo is the opportunity that will present sustained success for him.
JoeF Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Augie said: But he does give them orange slices at halftime, so he’s not a complete monster. Participation ribbons after games I heard as well...everyone's a winner...
FLFan Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 Having a hard time caring what a second rate talent like Colt McCoy thinks about the coaching he received. He obviously did not listen or was incapable of translating the coaching into performance, no matter the coach.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 17, 2018 Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: I tried finding the original article by Michael Silver, but it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Anyway, I haven’t heard similar stories from other QBs, so hopefully Daboll’s mistreatment of Colt McCoy was a singular incident. Josh Allen mentioned his coordinator was very energetic and always in his ear, but he welcomed that style of coaching. Perhaps this is a non-story in 2018, or maybe it’s something to keep an eye on... “There were times I had to pull my helmet off to call a play in the huddle,” McCoy recalled in an interview earlier this month. “Guys could hear him yelling, and they’d say, ‘Just take it off.’ People said to me, ‘Man, I ain’t never seen anything like that. Just hang in there.’” Brian Daboll was an a-hole in Cleveland Daboll’s rough treatment of Colt McCoy And then there was this, from an interview with a KC reporter... Q: In the last week, we've talked to a lot of people in Cleveland and Miami in the media that worked with you, and really high reviews from a lot of the local people. However, when you Google Brian Daboll, one of the first things that comes up is a Mike Silver article about harsh treatment of Colt McCoy. Can you maybe talk about your relationship with Colt and if the article was fair and if so, why there was that dynamic? DABOLL: "The relationship with most of the players that I've coached, I have a very, very good relationship. Colt and I have a good relationship. It's not a bad relationship. I think there are certain times when you're a coach and sometimes emotion can get to you that maybe you step back and say, 'Boy, I would rather have handled it that way rather than this way,' but I think the job as a coach is to tell the players what to do, show them how to do it and really not accept any excuses. It's an emotional game, and just like certain things in my life, not just football, some things I wish I would have done differently here and there, but I have a lot of respect for Colt as well as the other guys that I've coached. I'm a high energy, up-tempo guy. I expect perfection. I know that's not possible all the time, but I think we need to all hold ourselves to a high standard of really setting the tone and expecting the highest detail and the highest execution from all of ourselves." Q&A with Brian Daboll So it would be an interesting, tough, and topical question by the Buffalo News and other reporters to question McDermott in his next press conference about whether he approves of this approach and intends to endorse Daboll to use it with the Bills current QB room, and whether Daboll coached that way in Alabama.
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