When that adult child of yours just won't move out....

[Just Jack]

evict him.....

 

https://www.syracuse.com/expo/erry-2018/05/ec96feccdd8142/camillus_parents_go_to_ny_supr.html

[That's No Moon]

As they noted, it's not like he has a lease. Change the locks.

 

I feel for the parents, it has to be terrible to get to that point with your own child and you can see in the letters that they are trying to help him even while they are kicking him out.

[row_33]

Aka Tiberius?

 

no reason.....

 

[Punching Bag]

Too bad they are in central NY.  If they were near a port they could pay someone to shanghai their son. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I read the title and thought they were talking about my adult inner child, with whom I have been having issues lately.  Back to my LEGO blocks.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Wait till he has attempts to put them in a nursing home.  They'll wish they kept the nuisance child around.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

As they noted, it's not like he has a lease. Change the locks.

 

I feel for the parents, it has to be terrible to get to that point with your own child and you can see in the letters that they are trying to help him even while they are kicking him out.

 

Somehow I think the parents did a sub-par job if this is where they ended up.

[Marv's Neighbor]

Are they italian?  What's the problem?

[ExiledInIllinois]

30 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Are they italian?  What's the problem?

I had an Italian-American co-worker years ago.  Not that that means anything... But he told how he came back from Vietnam, comes up to the house... Some other family was living there.  I guess his family moved without writing him.

 

Also... Same guy who had his mother plead for him to re-enlist so his "crazy younger brother doesn't go to Vietnam and get killed."  He re-upped, his bro failed the physical, didn't even go in.

 

Something tells me, the family was trying to get rid of him.

 

Can't this family in Syracuse have him sent to Iraq?  Afghanistan?  Nothing like a good old war to get them out of the house.

[Marv's Neighbor]

We don't know his mental and physical condition.  The Military has their standards and maybe 30 is too old already?

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

We don't know his mental and physical condition.  The Military has their standards and maybe 30 is too old already?

Average age in WWII was 26. Plenty young!

[Just Jack]

8 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

As they noted, it's not like he has a lease. Change the locks.

 

I feel for the parents, it has to be terrible to get to that point with your own child and you can see in the letters that they are trying to help him even while they are kicking him out.

 

Someone noted in the comments that because he's related, there's more steps that must be followed than just changing the locks, to get him out. 

[Sweats]

Beat the living shite outta him and drag him out......done deal.

[BuffaloBill]

8 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Somehow I think the parents did a sub-par job if this is where they ended up.

 

 

How pathetic and embarrassing for all of them to end up in this situation.  

[row_33]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

Beat the living shite outta him and drag him out......done deal.

 

Early 70s.... a hippy cousin moves in with grandma, she asks him to stop growing pot in her apartment, he tells her he will break her arm, five family men come over and pitch him into the street, haven’t heard a word from him since.

 

 

 

 

Sorry but luxuries like everyone having their own home was the strange thing, like gold plated pensions for basic skills and factory jobs for life after WW2.  Families have always had three or four generations under the same roof, so two isn’t a big deal.

 

[RochesterRob]

7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Average age in WWII was 26. Plenty young!

  Age-wise he is good to go but the military has changed a lot in the past few decades.  If this guy does not have his act together it will show in the interview and the military will decline to take him.  It is no longer a warehouse for social misfits and the maladjusted.  It is not necessarily about being bright but just willing to extend effort.  Gomer Pyle could enlist in today's military because he at least had a good attitude about being in the military and they still need guys to cut the lawn, service vehicles, and serve chow to name a few tasks.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

Early 70s.... a hippy cousin moves in with grandma, she asks him to stop growing pot in her apartment, he tells her he will break her arm, five family men come over and pitch him into the street, haven’t heard a word from him since.

 

 

 

 

Sorry but luxuries like everyone having their own home was the strange thing, like gold plated pensions for basic skills and factory jobs for life after WW2.  Families have always had three or four generations under the same roof, so two isn’t a big deal.

 

The difference is that in the multi-generational families living together everyone had their roles and responsibilities. The case in this link is that with the deadbeat son there is abuse going on related to ignoring the wishes of the parents (owners of the house) and not making any contribution to maintaining the property going beyond even paying rent which I'm sure he is not doing. 

 

The only way that this leach is going to make it on his own is to force him to provide for himself. The problem is because he doesn't have any life skills he is not employable. I really feel for the parents. They will never have peace in their lives as long as this lost cause son is in the picture. 

[row_33]

24 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The difference is that in the multi-generational families living together everyone had their roles and responsibilities. The case in this link is that with the deadbeat son there is abuse going on related to ignoring the wishes of the parents (owners of the house) and not making any contribution to maintaining the property going beyond even paying rent which I'm sure he is not doing. 

 

The only way that this leach is going to make it on his own is to force him to provide for himself. The problem is because he doesn't have any life skills he is not employable. I really feel for the parents. They will never have peace in their lives as long as this lost cause son is in the picture. 

 

i can assure you children born in the 50s and 60s were bigger deadbeats than those born after 2000...

 

 

[Paulus]

This is a testament to bad parenting, period. 

 

Congratulations, you failed as a parent!!! 

 

And, the audacity to brag about this to the media is repugnant on multiple levels. 

 

How is is being received is disgusting, too. 

[RochesterRob]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

i can assure you children born in the 50s and 60s were bigger deadbeats than those born after 2000...

 

 

  This is probably true even though you are talking about my "generation" when talking about kids from the 1950's and 1960's.  Opportunities for those lacking advanced skills or education is less today versus coming of age during the 1970's and 1980's.  I am far from being a commie-liberal but there will be a need for UBI (universal basic income) going into the future as it will not be possible to make every last person a white collar professional.  The alternative would be to let those of limited ability resort to crime to fill in the income gaps.  Then there is the matter of educating younger people about social responsibility in that it is not up to society to provide a living like a millionaire without the individual taking the personal steps in an ethical manner to make it so.

[Just Jack]

http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/05/judge_praises_adult_sons_legal_research_boots_him_from_parents_house_anyway.html

 

Quote

Syracuse, NY -- State Supreme Court Justice Donald Greenwood tried everything he could today to convince a 30-year-old man to move out of his parents' Camillus house on his own. But after half an hour of back-and-forth, primarily between the son, Michael Rotondo, and the judge, the judge had had enough: Rotondo would have to move out, the judge ruled. He also ordered adult protective services to investigate, expressing concern about what was going on.

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Again, hope they never need assisted living or they have other children. LoL... Dude is so pulling the trigger on the Nursing Home when they get up there in a few short years.

 

 

[KD in CA]

2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Again, hope they never need assisted living or they have other children. LoL... Dude is so pulling the trigger on the Nursing Home when they get up there in a few short years.

 

You really think this POS would ever help them if they did?  Hopefully they are smart enough to identify someone else to manage their affairs when that day comes.

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

You really think this POS would ever help them if they did?  Hopefully they are smart enough to identify someone else to manage their affairs when that day comes.

I can't really make a judgement.  It always takes two to tango.  They did a hell of job raising him... Now they need the State's help.  They sound like real winners too.

[KD in CA]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

I can't really make a judgement.  It always takes two to tango.  They did a hell of job raising him... Now they need the State's help.  They sound like real winners too.

 

No doubt they screwed the pooch the long time ago on the parental front.

 

If they were smart they'd tell the state he beats them and he'd be out of there this afternoon.

[teef]

On 5/15/2018 at 9:55 AM, row_33 said:

 

i can assure you children born in the 50s and 60s were bigger deadbeats than those born after 2000...

 

 

this is outstanding.  

 

what i've seen though is the newer, "hippies" are still at least financially tied to their parents.  they still request money, still use their car, still expect to get bailed out, etc.  i don't have first hand experience with the old school hippies, but i just feel the new generation is trying hard to live that bohemian lifestyle while still being far too dependent.

17 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

You really think this POS would ever help them if they did?  Hopefully they are smart enough to identify someone else to manage their affairs when that day comes.

yeah...this kid is useless.

1 minute ago, KD in CA said:

 

No doubt they screwed the pooch the long time ago on the parental front.

 

If they were smart they'd tell the state he beats them and he'd be out of there this afternoon.

it's definitely the fault of the parents in a large part.  i have a feeling they could have dealt with this years ago.  

 

i know it's easy to be at home, but don't most kids want their freedom from mom and dad.  with my first apartment, i was just so excited that i could bring girls home without the nonsense waiting until the parents were asleep, being quiet etc.  i loved being on my own.

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 minutes ago, teef said:

this is outstanding.  

 

what i've seen though is the newer, "hippies" are still at least financially tied to their parents.  they still request money, still use their car, still expect to get bailed out, etc.  i don't have first hand experience with the old school hippies, but i just feel the new generation is trying hard to live that bohemian lifestyle while still being far too dependent.

yeah...this kid is useless.

it's definitely the fault of the parents in a large part.  i have a feeling they could have dealt with this years ago.  

 

i know it's easy to be at home, but don't most kids want their freedom from mom and dad.  with my first apartment, i was just so excited that i could bring girls home without the nonsense waiting until the parents were asleep, being quiet etc.  i loved being on my own.

What do you mean nonsense waiting until the parents are asleep.  Everything is out in open now, the parents probably watch.

[Greybeard]

On 5/15/2018 at 10:50 AM, Paulus said:

This is a testament to bad parenting, period. 

 

Congratulations, you failed as a parent!!! 

 

 

             There are some who will go wrong no matter how perfect a job their parents did.  

[Dante]

On 5/15/2018 at 3:20 AM, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

How pathetic and embarrassing for all of them to end up in this situation.  

Doesn't seem to be a lot of dignity/ self-respect anymore. I feel at some point shame or embarrassment would have kicked in well before it got to this point. But maybe the entitlement personality flaw is too strong?

Edited May 22, 2018 by Dante

[KD in CA]

28 minutes ago, Dante said:

Doesn't seem to be a lot of dignity/ self-respect anymore. I feel at some point shame or embarrassment would have kicked in well before it got to this point. But maybe the entitlement personality flaw is too strong?

 

Sorry, shame and embarrasment have been outlawed by the SJWs and PC overlords.

 

Yesterday I was sent a survey of California voters;  the very first question was "Which issues are most important to you?" and the first option was "Jobs that bring dignity and respect".  That's right folks, we don't need jobs that produce economic value, or jobs that pay at a level commensurate with the value of their contribution, and we certainly don't need jobs that teach the value of hard work.  We just need jobs that "bring dignity and respect".   

[Dante]

17 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Sorry, shame and embarrasment have been outlawed by the SJWs and PC overlords.

 

Yesterday I was sent a survey of California voters;  the very first question was "Which issues are most important to you?" and the first option was "Jobs that bring dignity and respect".  That's right folks, we don't need jobs that produce economic value, or jobs that pay at a level commensurate with the value of their contribution, and we certainly don't need jobs that teach the value of hard work.  We just need jobs that "bring dignity and respect".   

All about feelings. Not reality or practicality. Amazing level of bullshitting going on. Seems like a lot of the masses are on board though.

[mead107]

Have a nephew that is 36 and lives home.  Does nothing to help out his parents. Has a temper.  Does work,  last a few months to a few years. 3 in the last year. 

[BuffaloBill]

13 hours ago, Dante said:

Doesn't seem to be a lot of dignity/ self-respect anymore. I feel at some point shame or embarrassment would have kicked in well before it got to this point. But maybe the entitlement personality flaw is too strong?

 

12 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Sorry, shame and embarrasment have been outlawed by the SJWs and PC overlords.

 

Yesterday I was sent a survey of California voters;  the very first question was "Which issues are most important to you?" and the first option was "Jobs that bring dignity and respect".  That's right folks, we don't need jobs that produce economic value, or jobs that pay at a level commensurate with the value of their contribution, and we certainly don't need jobs that teach the value of hard work.  We just need jobs that "bring dignity and respect".   

 

It seems that the inherent value of hard work is becoming a lost idea in our society.  Too many people simply want the easy way out or feel as though they are entitled.  My father-in-law recently passed away.  The guy fought in the Korean War on the front lines, lifted himself out of dire poverty through a bit of education and worked he his ass off into old age. He told my wife and me both, just before he died, that life is full of blessings but it is also very hard at times.  His advice was to continue to push forward no matter how hard the circumstances are. 

 

Somehow today people fail to see the worth of that kind of advice and example.  Too many want to believe that we can make things easy by taking some pills and relying on the hard work or ideas of others.  

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

It seems that the inherent value of hard work is becoming a lost idea in our society.  Too many people simply want the easy way out or feel as though they are entitled.  My father-in-law recently passed away.  The guy fought in the Korean War on the front lines, lifted himself out of dire poverty through a bit of education and worked he his ass off into old age. He told my wife and me both, just before he died, that life is full of blessings but it is also very hard at times.  His advice was to continue to push forward no matter how hard the circumstances are. 

 

Somehow today people fail to see the worth of that kind of advice and example.  Too many want to believe that we can make things easy by taking some pills and relying on the hard work or ideas of others.  

 

 

Nice narrative to keep the hoi polloi in check.

 

Always been that way.  It's just reaching to the masses more now.  Gotta keep the masses in line.

 

Does anybody really want to bust their azz till 70?  Maybe father inlaw lived a long life, many don't. Labor breaks them.

 

My father broke in on railroad right at end of the steam era.  There used to be a old-timer that would shovel coal for 10 hours a day.  He'd come in hunched over, and there he would be in same position all shift, shoveling coal.  He would leave, walking hunched over the same way he started his shift.  The old-timer would tell my father: "They don't make kids like they used to." My father would reply back: "Yeah, they don't make kids as stupid as they used to!"

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Nice narrative to keep the hoi polloi in check.

 

Always been that way.  It's just reaching to the masses more now.  Gotta keep the masses in line.

 

Does anybody really want to bust their azz till 70?  Maybe father inlaw lived a long life, many don't. Labor breaks them.

 

My father broke in on railroad right at end of the steam era.  There used to be a old-timer that would shovel coal for 10 hours a day.  He'd come in hunched over, and there he would be in same position all shift, shoveling coal.  He would leave, walking hunched over the same way he started his shift.  The old-timer would tell my father: "They don't make kids like they used to." My father would reply back: "Yeah, they don't make kids as stupid as they used to!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

EII - this is a very unfortunate and disrespectful comment to the people who have to work at hard physical jobs.  The truth of the matter is that hard work involves a lot of different types of underlying activities.  Sometimes people have no choice or can’t work beyond their circumstances.  Good for those who can.  Work ethic does not only apply to those who work physically.

[shrader]

18 hours ago, Just Jack said:

http://www.syracuse.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/05/judge_praises_adult_sons_legal_research_boots_him_from_parents_house_anyway.html

 

 

 

They have adult protective services?  What's that called, the police?

[Dante]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Nice narrative to keep the hoi polloi in check.

 

Always been that way.  It's just reaching to the masses more now.  Gotta keep the masses in line.

 

Does anybody really want to bust their azz till 70?  Maybe father inlaw lived a long life, many don't. Labor breaks them.

 

My father broke in on railroad right at end of the steam era.  There used to be a old-timer that would shovel coal for 10 hours a day.  He'd come in hunched over, and there he would be in same position all shift, shoveling coal.  He would leave, walking hunched over the same way he started his shift.  The old-timer would tell my father: "They don't make kids like they used to." My father would reply back: "Yeah, they don't make kids as stupid as they used to!"

 

 

 

 

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I think yes. Some do. That's whats called character. It's who they are. They want to be productive. Do something. Part of the dna. I don't think labor breaks anyone. It builds them. Once you have no problem doing that. It will apply to everything you do.

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

EII - this is a very unfortunate and disrespectful comment to the people who have to work at hard physical jobs.  The truth of the matter is that hard work involves a lot of different types of underlying activities.  Sometimes people have no choice or can’t work beyond their circumstances.  Good for those who can.  Work ethic does not only apply to those who work physically.

I know.  My father knows it was disrespectful.  The dude was crippled up because that's what he did his whole life.

 

They had self-banking coal feeders... Couldn't come soon enough?

25 minutes ago, Dante said:

I think yes. Some do. That's whats called character. It's who they are. They want to be productive. Do something. Part of the dna. I don't think labor breaks anyone. It builds them. Once you have no problem doing that. It will apply to everything you do.

Bust azz by being crippled up physically is what I meant.

[Just Jack]

4 hours ago, shrader said:

 

They have adult protective services?  What's that called, the police?

 

http://www.ongov.net/aps/

[Misterbluesky]

Our nug left for Virginia the week after his college graduation (6 years ago). My wife refuses to do anything to update his room..with the exception of doing the unslept in bedding once a month. Nobody has the balls to tell her she's looney,including me.