Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Insider Ben Albright who has been pretty spot on with his Browns insider info says it's going to be Darnold. He posted the following tweet then deleted it. He's either trolling or the Browns have made up their mind. You decide: I'm curious what Albright has called for the Browns as an insider? Not questioning, just want to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: why did he delete this one then? Presumably he got excited and tweeted it out and then his source said he was only telling him under the condition that he keep it to himself or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: This would make sense for him to fall. 1) Darnold (Browns) 2) Rosen (Bills) 3) Mayfield (Jets) 4) Chubb (Browns) 5) Nelson (Broncos) 6) Barkley (Giants) can't see Denver taking Barkley, and everyone is happy here. Broncos would most certainly take Barkley, they just released Anderson. Nelson is certainly a consideration but I bet they take Barkley in this scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's possible they could be in love with 2 or 3 non-QBs. Barkley, Chubb and Nelson are the 3 prospects who are being talked about as the best prospects in this draft. All 3 are positions of need for the Giants. They could easily realize they're going to get one of those 3 guys if they drop back to 5 or 6 and also get a bunch of other picks that are going to provide starters immediately to help the Giants and Eli Manning win now. Eli Manning hasn't signaled he wants to retire and while I've never been really high on him as a QB myself, him and the Giants sucking last year really wasn't because age is physically degrading him. He's 37, and 40 is the new 35 for QBs... at least that's the way I think Gettleman is viewing this QB decision. I think Gettleman would be nuts to plan of Eli being his QB for the next two years. It's an opinion I've expressed elsewhere. The guy is hopelessly immobile. The guy was the 35th rated passer in 2013, 15th in 2014, 13th in 2015, 22nd rated passer in 2016 and the 26th rated passer last season. In other words, he's been bad to horrible in three of the last 5 years and only mediocre in the other two. I just don't get chasing a lot of talent on the assumption that a bunch of rookies and a QB who hasn't produced since forever are going to win a Super Bowl. 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This would be a good scenario for the Bill's. Giants will pass on a QB, Jets can only take one of Mayfield or Rosen (or, God willing, Allen). Leaves a trade up to 4 or 5. That's the most likely big-trade scenario. I still the more likely trade is up to 6-9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: That's a scenario that makes sense to me, if there's only one QB the Giants want. But if you're in the market for a QB, as I assume the Giants are, trading back and getting only your third or fourth choice QB doesn't makes sense. I feel strongly that other than QB, there are no game changers in this or any draft. I mean, there is a guy every once in a while who turns out to be a super stud, like JJ Watt, but nobody seems to be able to tell who those guys are in the draft. They know if there's a game changer, he could be one of about 10 guys. I've come around to thinking that if you're not looking for a QB, trading out of the top spots makes sense. I still think the Giants want a QB. i think that whether or not darnold goes first, and the bolded with completely dictate the landscape of the top of the draft. this year really is unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm curious what Albright has called for the Browns as an insider? Not questioning, just want to know most recently he broke the news that Mayfield was in play for pick 1. then it was reported by espn and others the next day. he's also reported that Josh Rosen is completely off their board as well as the Broncos board. he was also first to shoot down any of the 3 team trade scenarios. i haven't been following him for too long but he has a pretty good track record apparently. very reliable. Edited April 24, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, TigerJ said: The buzz for a while was that Darnold is the only QB the Giants would take at #2. If Darnold goes to the Browns, my understanding was the Giants would pick a player at a different position at #2. The assumption was that player would be Barkley, but Chubb could not be completely ruled out. That has been my operating assumption on how the top of the first round will play out. The three way trade was talked about for a while too. It was the Bills, Giants and Colts. It is widely believed that the Giants don't want to drop too far from #2, that #12 is too low to go. In this scenario, the Giants would drop to #6, the Colts to #12, and the Bills would jump to #2. That would be pretty hard to pull off, both complicated and expensive. I just don't think it's happening. quinn actually said he be surprised if it happened. he may have even mentioned that he didn't think there's been a three way trade like this before, (but i thought there has been). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, kdiggz said: most recently he broke the news that Mayfield was in play for pick 1. then it was reported by espn and others the next day. he's also reported that Josh Rosen is completely off their board as well as the Broncos board. he was also first to shoot down any of the 3 team trade scenarios. i haven't been following him for too long but he has a pretty good track record apparently. very reliable. So he's made a bunch of claims - but is there any substance to him having confirmed Browns player/coach acquisitions in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, teef said: quinn actually said he be surprised if it happened. he may have even mentioned that he didn't think there's been a three way trade like this before, (but i thought there has been). the only other three team trade i can remember was the one that brought us Cornelius Bennett and sent Eric Dickerson to the Colts for a crap load of picks to the Rams. it wasn't a draft day trade though. Edited April 24, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Foxx said: the only other three team trade i can remeber was the one that brought us Cornelius Bennett and sent Eric Dickerson to the Colts for a crap load of picks to the Rams. it wasn't a draft day trade though. maybe that's what i'm thinking of. i'm kinda surprised this hasn't happened before. who knows...it's unlikely, but maybe this will be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This would be a good scenario for the Bill's. Giants will pass on a QB, Jets can only take one of Mayfield or Rosen (or, God willing, Allen). Leaves a trade up to 4 or 5. Dude this would be ideal. We would still have plenty of picks this year as well....I still wish we went to 3, but as long as it is Rosen/Mayfield I can live with it...Allen is a tough one, but I could get behind it. If he ends up sucking, I would hope we are decisive enough to quickly move on from him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said: Yep it’s Darnold and barkley at 2. Mayfield or Rosen at 3 Allen at 3 imo, but I agree 100% with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Dude this would be ideal. We would still have plenty of picks this year as well.... That's the amazing part of this. I would have thought we would need to get 2 or 3 to grab our QB. But with the Giants passing on anyone but Darnold and the Browns holding pick 4 we're in pretty good shape. No team can outbid us for pick 5. Just for pick 12 and 22 alone we should have Rosen at 5, if we get in a bidding war we can throw in 65 and call it a day. Darnold is my #1 but I will be more than happy with Rosen and a slew of picks to build around him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think Gettleman would be nuts to plan of Eli being his QB for the next two years. It's an opinion I've expressed elsewhere. The guy is hopelessly immobile. The guy was the 35th rated passer in 2013, 15th in 2014, 13th in 2015, 22nd rated passer in 2016 and the 26th rated passer last season. In other words, he's been bad to horrible in three of the last 5 years and only mediocre in the other two. I just don't get chasing a lot of talent on the assumption that a bunch of rookies and a QB who hasn't produced since forever are going to win a Super Bowl. I share your feelings about Eli Manning. I've always thought he was vastly overrated... even with his 2 Super Bowl MVPs. However, despite sharing that opinion with you, I think Gettleman has a different one and really has no intention to draft a QB. I think he's a lot higher on Eli Manning than you or I are. And scooping up plenty of draft picks would help him to provide weapons and protection for that hopelessly immobile QB who's already proven twice he can play at a high level on the biggest stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: Darnold goes 1 Giants trade out of 2 to the Bills. Bills trade #2 + more to the Browns for Darnold Browns take Baker or Allen at 2. I'd love to see this happen !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: Darnold goes 1 Giants trade out of 2 to the Bills. Bills trade #2 + more to the Browns for Darnold Browns take Baker or Allen at 2. I really like where you head is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: That's the amazing part of this. I would have thought we would need to get 2 or 3 to grab our QB. But with the Giants passing on anyone but Darnold and the Browns holding pick 4 we're in pretty good shape. No team can outbid us for pick 5. Just for pick 12 and 22 alone we should have Rosen at 5, if we get in a bidding war we can throw in 65 and call it a day. Darnold is my #1 but I will be more than happy with Rosen and a slew of picks to build around him. Darnold/Rosen are tied for 1 for me, followed by Mayfield. I'm trying to wrap my head around Allen.... Giving picks this year doesn't bother me, I just don't want to burn the 2019 #1 since I don't expect us to be terribly good and we could use the next Bruce Smith....Of course I would burn the pick if I had to in order to secure the QB we want, I would prefer not to though Rosne & a bunch of picks to grab OL, RB, WR, LB this year and tons of cap room next year and a fully intact 2019 draft. Sign me up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 56 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Yes, it would be nice to get ahead of the Jets. But unless someone can give the Giants #4, they aren't moving back. And maybe, just maybe, the Bills and Jets want different guys. So the Browns could get their fav at 1, the Jets get their fav at 3 AND the Bills get their fav at 5. Even that seems possible, because there sure doesn't seem to be a clear consensus about the QBs. The Bills would have to be pretty confident in their intel on the other teams, I guess. Even if the Giants are in love with one prospect, there are certainly other prospects they love. I would think they'd be willing to part ways with the #2 for extra 1st and 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: If the Bills are able to trade up and either of Darnold/Rosen are available, and they pass, I will **** my pants in rage. Have laundry detergent ready then. I don't think Rosen is their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Bleedingreennc said: The Colts trade down, then up, then down again? Lol yeah...except they are playing with Bill's money (draft picks)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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