How long will you give our new QB?

[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

they really wanted to get Peterman in is all.

Oh I disagree. I think the last thing that McD wanted to do is play a 5th round rookie in year one.While trying to stay afloat in a playoff race to boot.  Tyrod's struggles and refusal to throw the ball led to the desperate decision to start Peterman. McD is a very conservative coach, it really was sheer desperation. 

[MJS]

I'll give him for as long as he is the starter. Have to hope for the best going into each season.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Ah, spring. Just days before the draft, when a Bills fan's thoughts turn to franchise quarterbacks.

 

It's a given we will be taking one high, likely with a trade up. And of course the expectation is that QB will start immediately and be great.

 

But deep down we all know how this will play out. The fanbase is divided over who to take, even if we picked first. And whoever falls to us will be considered a consolation prize and a sign that Beane got cold feet with his trade up offers.

 

But we will end up with someone. And it's likely they will be uneven. Some good things, some bad. Opinions will be formed in OTA's and camp. Some will panic. Some will defend him.

 

So my question is how long do we fans give our new franchise QB before we start talking about the 2019 draft?

 

Well, let's see.  We got one thread on the board talking about "LOLmar" and another talking about "Mayfailed"

So it would appear that in two cases at least, we are giving our new QB about -5 days.

 

SMH.  SMDH.

Edited April 22, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan

[Doc Brown]

With our o-line right now, I'd play McCarron for the year no matter who we draft.  If we had a good o-line, Rosen is the only QB I'd start right off the bat. He's the only QB that's mechanics don't need that much work.  He also is the best at pre snap adjustments and reading defenses from what's been reported.  His concussions scare the hell out of me though.  I'd be happy with either Darnold or Mayfield if they fall out of the top 5 and we didn't give up too much to trade up for them.  Just stay away from Allen.

[mead107]

I game to see if he can match Peterman 

[LeGOATski]

Camp.

 

If he's throwing balls into the medical tent, I am done.

[26CornerBlitz]

9 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Camp.

 

If he's throwing balls into the medical tent, I am done.

 

Come on man, Hospitality Tent. 

[Rob's House]

One half. He gets treated like anyone else.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

He'll be labeled a bust by 10% of the people here before he gets his bro hug from Goober Goodell.

 

Another 5% will label him a bust by the end of mini camp. Add another 5% by the end of training camp.

 

I'd give him this year as the chief clipboard holder, next year as a serious challenger to McCarron, and he should have the job won coming out of the gates in 2020.

 

..pretty conservative on those percentages bud..............

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

I want to say three years. But EJ got far less than that so it very well could be 1.5 years.

18 hours ago, cd1 said:

I believe that there will be some here who will HATE the new QB on draft day and they will not stop until the Bills get a QB to their liking.

 

So.... the lines will be drawn on April 26th 2018

x10 if we end up with Allen, Jackson, Rudolph or any of the lesser known QBs.

[frostbitmic]

3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..pretty conservative on those percentages bud..............

I was being kind and giving credit to fellow Bills fans .... Of course it may have been the rum.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

I was being kind and giving credit to fellow Bills fans .... Of course it may have been the rum.

 

 

....you've been exposed as "soft"...LMAO................as far as rum, just got back from Aruba with my kids....government declared a state of emergency...we drank the "one happy island" bone dry.........

[Gugny]

22 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Ah, spring. Just days before the draft, when a Bills fan's thoughts turn to franchise quarterbacks.

 

It's a given we will be taking one high, likely with a trade up. And of course the expectation is that QB will start immediately and be great.

 

But deep down we all know how this will play out. The fanbase is divided over who to take, even if we picked first. And whoever falls to us will be considered a consolation prize and a sign that Beane got cold feet with his trade up offers.

 

But we will end up with someone. And it's likely they will be uneven. Some good things, some bad. Opinions will be formed in OTA's and camp. Some will panic. Some will defend him.

 

So my question is how long do we fans give our new franchise QB before we start talking about the 2019 draft?

 

Three practices!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously - I'd give him 16 starts to show that he's got it.  That doesn't mean 16 starts of tearing opposing defenses apart.  Doesn't mean that the Bills have to win 10 or more of the games.  It just means that he has to show that he's got what it takes to get to where a successful NFL QB needs to get in order to lead an offense.

 

I would say that, if he is, indeed, that good - that his second full season as a starter should show significant progress over his first.

 

If, after two full seasons of starting, said QB still looks like he isn't progressing, then I'd start to consider pulling the plug.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Three practices!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously - I'd give him 16 starts to show that he's got it.  That doesn't mean 16 starts of tearing opposing defenses apart.  Doesn't mean that the Bills have to win 10 or more of the games.  It just means that he has to show that he's got what it takes to get to where a successful NFL QB needs to get in order to lead an offense.

 

I would say that, if he is, indeed, that good - that his second full season as a starter should show significant progress over his first.

 

If, after two full seasons of starting, said QB still looks like he isn't progressing, then I'd start to consider pulling the plug.

 

...16?....here at TBD?.....seriously?......recommend donning your kevlar vest and getting in your fox hole pronto......

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...16?....here at TBD?.....seriously?......recommend donning your kevlar vest and getting in your fox hole pronto......

 

Believe me ... I was notoriously patient with EJ and got murdered over it on this site.  That led to me being less-patient with Taylor, but he was a 6th year pro.

 

That said, I don't expect McCarron to light it up right out of the gate.  But he is young and I think he would need to be REALLY bad for more than half of this season in order to get benched in favor of a true rookie.

 

As far as a true rookie is concerned.  I guess I'm looking at it like a Goff or Wentz situation.  Goff was pretty bad in his first season as a starter.  He had a lot of things going against him, but I'm really tired of making excuses for QBs.  Wentz did much better than Goff, but it's not like he was awesome.  But both QBs showed a lot of promise in losing efforts; then proved in year two that they were actually very good.

 

That's why I'm all about giving a true rookie the equivalent of a full season as, pretty much, a mulligan - as long as he shows that he's got the tools, smarts, leadership, etc.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Believe me ... I was notoriously patient with EJ and got murdered over it on this site.  That led to me being less-patient with Taylor, but he was a 6th year pro.

 

That said, I don't expect McCarron to light it up right out of the gate.  But he is young and I think he would need to be REALLY bad for more than half of this season in order to get benched in favor of a true rookie.

 

As far as a true rookie is concerned.  I guess I'm looking at it like a Goff or Wentz situation.  Goff was pretty bad in his first season as a starter.  He had a lot of things going against him, but I'm really tired of making excuses for QBs.  Wentz did much better than Goff, but it's not like he was awesome.  But both QBs showed a lot of promise in losing efforts; then proved in year two that they were actually very good.

 

That's why I'm all about giving a true rookie the equivalent of a full season as, pretty much, a mulligan - as long as he shows that he's got the tools, smarts, leadership, etc.

 

....nice assessment and valid reasoning IMO bud....patience is NOT a virtue in this joint (or others).....first I thought McCarron was worthy of a late draft flyer......nothing flashy, but a steady Eddie, cerebral game manager who went in the 5th....pretty sure there were high hopes when TT came on board as a four year understudy.....just hope McCarron's understudy tenure yields better, but I also think he has more prototypical skill set (whatever the hell that means today) versus TT's adaptation to the speed/complexity of the game at this level...a couple of quick EJ points.....oddly, OBD's FIRST choice was Genome Smith until they flew down to interview him and work him out.....plane ride home consensus was, "um no thanks"....so EJ was 2nd fiddle as Crusty Buddy was hell bent on a QB ( the patchwork era of the "over the hill" gang and people in positions NOT qualified for, soley based on RW's "trust")....I STRONGLY recommend SDS denies membership to our incoming rook QB for a period of no less than two years.....don't want the lad reading about the "BUST" label here followed by one leg over the Peace Bridge railing....Jesus.........

[LeGOATski]

6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Come on man, Hospitality Tent. 

That, too.

 

No tents!

[blacklabel]

Like the very few educated, patient, understanding and well-informed board members here, he'll get roughly his first nine plays before I jump on here like a screeching lunatic demanding he be benched, the coaching staff terminated (by like, a real T-1000) and the front office demolished (with a real wrecking ball). And of course I'll squeal for the complete deconstruction of the entire franchise. 

 

Why? Because I'm an extremely important fan with many medium level business meetings and my stance on how much time the rookie deserves before being shown the door is the only one that counts. 

[Xwnyer]

One series and people on this board will label him a BUST

[Fadingpain]

I'd give one of the big name guys a LOT of time to develop.

 

AJ?  He doesn't get any special treatment.  If he is the QB and things go south, I'll be screaming for the hook to come out faster than you can say "Tyrod sucks."