BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, HappyDays said: There is absolutely no way we're getting to #2 with nothing but an extra 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. If we do I'll legally change my last name to Beane. This does make me wonder if Daniel Jeremiah has heard something about Indy though. You're still undervaluing the double first this year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: There is absolutely no way we're getting to #2 with nothing but an extra 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. If we do I'll legally change my last name to Beane. This does make me wonder if Daniel Jeremiah has heard something about Indy though. I don’t understand why people keep saying that? At this point it isn’t about numbers. It is about getting the guys that you want while getting extra assets. The Giants would be reluctant, but not because of the return. I think that they love Barkley. At 6 he may not be an option. If Gettleman is good with Barkley, Nelson or Chubb why wouldn’t he slide to 6 while picking up 22 & 65? I don’t care what the chart says (even though it favors the Giants) it makes sense for them. If they are set on Chubb or Barkley they have to get to 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I grew up watching the Stooges. They were great. The family members including heirs have fought long and hard over the branding and money rights. The legal wrangling became a generational battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: I grew up watching the Stooges. They were great. The family members including heirs have fought long and hard over the branding and money rights. The legal wrangling became a generational battle. I have a soft spot for Shemp, the forgotten Stooge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Chris in Syracuse said: What about giving the Giants Shaq Lawson plus our 2 firsts and a second? I read it as a possibility somewhere. If anything i could see Hughes being used in a trade up. I don't think Shaq has more than 4th round value. Hughes is probably worth a 2nd. 18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: You're still undervaluing the double first this year! I don't feel like doing the exact math, but considering what the Jets gave up to move up 3 spots that proposed trade is pretty far off. Supposedly there are about 20 1st round grades in this year's draft class. Pick 22 is probably worth less than it is in other years. And we already know pick 2 is worth more than it is in other years. There's a bunch of top 5 QB prospects and the Jets trade sets the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I have a soft spot for Shemp, the forgotten Stooge. Curly Joe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Curly Joe? Nah, he's another fella. That's how forgotten Shemp is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don't feel like doing the exact math, but considering what the Jets gave up to move up 3 spots that proposed trade is pretty far off. Supposedly there are about 20 1st round grades in this year's draft class. Pick 22 is probably worth less than it is in other years. And we already know pick 2 is worth more than it is in other years. There's a bunch of top 5 QB prospects and the Jets trade sets the floor. That Bills offer is worth 140.69 (150% of #2) The Jets gave 136.27 (152% of #3) It's not far off at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: That Bills offer is worth 140.69 (150% of #2) The Jets gave 136.27 (152% of #3) It's not far off at all. Hmm not gonna lie that's more points than I expected for that offer. If that's the trade we make and it's for Mayfield, Rosen, or Darnold I'll be 100% on board. My gut tells me it's not enough regardless of what the chart says but I'd be happy to be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'm going to be honest, debating a value chart one way or the other is showing me the sake of debating to debate. If the Bill's over par or somehow pull off a steal, as long as they get a franchise QB who gives a.... Are we going to look back and remember all those value points we gave up or saved? No we will discuss the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan17 said: I'm going to be honest, debating a value chart one way or the other is showing me the sake of debating to debate. If the Bill's over par or somehow pull off a steal, as long as they get a franchise QB who gives a.... Are we going to look back and remember all those value points we gave up or saved? No we will discuss the picks. It’s a guide too. People get caught up in the numbers. Look at what the Dolphins traded for Dion Jordan vs. what the Redskins traded for RG3. Both teams traded to 2 but at a totally different price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Hey moe hey moe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I can't stop watching this thread! Make it stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Gosh damn we gotta get ahead of the jests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, zevo said: Gosh damn we gotta get ahead of the jests No we don't. I want Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, zevo said: Gosh damn we gotta get ahead of the jests Or try for 4 and get the best QB in 5 years in Rosen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: No we don't. I want Rosen. Yes we do...I want darnold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Either way, we are going to be facing one of Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield twice every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s a guide too. People get caught up in the numbers. Look at what the Dolphins traded for Dion Jordan vs. what the Redskins traded for RG3. Both teams traded to 2 but at a totally different price. Right, one was for a quarterback and one wasn't. There are premiums paid when trading up for a QB. Edited April 19, 2018 by cle23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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