SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: If it's really 2 years for $16.5 million this is awesome!!! But if it's a sign we're targeting a project QB I really hope it's Jackson. Jackson? Thats not who who you have been clamoring about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Nobody is giving out tons of dumb deals. In fact, this team is pretty flush. And again, it's not our money. Spend too much? Go over the cap. Who cares? Literally no one. The cap exists as an actual thing, though. An NFL team can't just "go over" it. Being in cap hell means other valuable players have to be moved off the roster. It results in a less consistent model for roster building, and sudden talent purges. I, for one, DO care about the roster and cap management of my favorite professional sports team. I find it interesting, and it is an inarguably essential facet of NFL team building. Why are you railing against this? It's weird. Edited March 15, 2018 by Richard Noggin mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Whats the cap situation looking like now with these signings? Did we find out what Star will be making? Would love to add a WR and another LB before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Monkey Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 All these pages of posts and no reference, picture or ripping on his god awful tattoo? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, rodneykm said: AJ might end up being the QB we've been searching for all these years. I think hes got the talent to be a franchise guy. I stumbled across this. It is weird. And maybe funny. But they have some decent information. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They dumbed-down the offense for Foles...and still beat 2 of the best defenses in the NFL. Not sure I follow that logic. 12 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: If you're the owner, sure. We're fans. What are we going to do? Stop cheeing for the Bills because the owner didn't know how to budget his billions? No one is saying he/she will stop cheering for the Bills if they overpay for a player. Again what we're saying is that if you can get a guy for a good deal, it allows you to get more players. 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: If it's really 2 years for $16.5 million this is awesome!!! No, it's really 2 years for $10M, worth up to $16.5 if AJM starts every game the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: You see clueless, I see fans who literally will determine how much they like a player based, in part, on how much the team paid for him. There is only one thing that will determine if McCarron was a good hire: if he plays well. To suggest that "Well, he didn't play well, but hey, he only cost $15M, so I'm good with this" is ridiculous because the team needs someone under center to play well more than they need to save a few million on a contract. I suppose we could just offer everyone $100,000,000 and be done with it. We are talking about potential ROI.. not an after the fact evaluation. It's a perfectly normal conversation in polite circles. At least it seems like it to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: They dumbed-down the offense for Foles...and still beat 2 of the best defenses in the NFL. Not sure I follow that logic. No one is saying he/she will stop cheering for the Bills if they overpay for a player. Again what we're saying is that if you can get a guy for a good deal, it allows you to get more players. No, it's really 2 years for $10M, worth up to $16.5 if AJM starts every game the next 2 years. They did, but who cares at this juncture with Foles not part of the Bills' equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: They would be foolish to include a rookie QB that needs major development with mechanics in anything but QB and delay development He has consistency issues with his mechanics, not major flaws that need round the clock attention. This is the new NFL, where you create mismatches when you have a better hand you can play. If they draft him, he'll see the field in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No doubter! Wait a minutes. Why is this important. I just been reading in this thread that it doesn't mean anything if we signed McCarron to 25 million per year. It's not our money. Stupid Ross Tucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Chase Daniel just signed 2 years for 10 Mil. Mccaron signed the same. Still wondering how Beane pulled this off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: Wait a minutes. Why is this important. I just been reading in this thread that it doesn't mean anything if we signed McCarron to 25 million per year. It's not our money. Stupid Ross Tucker! Preach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the market for 5th round draft picks who threw 5 INTs in less than 1/2 and then that cameo in the playoffs, is not all that strong. Har dee harr harr. Yeah maybe he will be safe at that. But I want to say that I have seen a lot of quarterbacks who didn't have it. Remember I have been going to Bills camp for 15 years now. And I wish that was funny. So I don't know if Peterman is going to be any good or not. But for sure, to me, he isn't one of the guys who just doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: Other than disengaging I’m at a loss for how to respond to “just go over the cap” You're at a loss because I'm not making my point clear enough. Let me try it another way: if AJ McCarron takes the Bills to the SB this season, is anyone really going to give a crap what the team paid for him? Even if the team went over the cap? No. In fact, hell no. If AJ McCarron ends up leading the BIlls to a 1-15 record, is anyone going to stand around saying "Well, that sucked but at least we're under the cap because we got him for a bargain!"? No. They'll be too busy burning his jersey. The idea of judging a player, in part, based on what someone else paid for him is ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Atlanta disagrees with you on Sanu and he looks a bit special for them. Marvin Jones looking pretty good in Detroit. AJ Green or Julio Jones, no, but "dime a dozen", GREAT - guy find me a dozen just like that hell settle for 2. Jury may be more out on Eifert, injuries have hampered him I think. Since becoming a full-time starter, Sanu has averaged around 52 catches for 600 yards and 3 TD's a season. Nothing special. 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They did, but who cares at this juncture with Foles not part of the Bills' equation. So you're saying that 2 of the best defenses in the NFL couldn't beat an allegedly dumbed-down offense? And signing AJM doesn't change the equation one iota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Still wondering how Beane pulled this off McCarron wants an opportunity to compete for a starting job and after all the dominoes fell he felt like this was his best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Saosin said: Love the signing, perfect situation for both the Bills and McCarron. Anyone else have a gut feeling that this means that we draft Allen or Jackson at 12 and that we may not expend any further draft capital to move up? I guess I'd be okay with it it, but man do I have a man-crush on Rosen. If we landed him, I'd be ecstatic. It depends on if they think those guys are franchise caliber. They won't be drafting a 1st round QB again soon; they'll try get the guy they believe in. I think theyll use some capital and move up again. They've sacrificed little to get to 12, and that's key. There is certainly a price point beyond which they won't go as it will limit their ability to put quality players on the field. That point is anyone's guess. They probably only truly like 2 of these QBs . There's still work to be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: Chase Daniel just signed 2 years for 10 Mil. Mccaron signed the same. Still wondering how Beane pulled this off Chance to start will do it all. Good sign and contract by Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Chase Daniel just signed 2 years for 10 Mil. Mccaron signed the same. Still wondering how Beane pulled this off Because they probably aren’t wildly different talents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, QCity said: McCarron wants an opportunity to compete for a starting job and after all the dominoes fell he felt like this was his best chance. I understand that, I just mean it's such a low price. Some backup QBS make more than that, and he will probably start the year and has a pretty high ceiling in the prime of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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