BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Me thinks if we get AJ or another vet, then all the QB's are there for the Bills to go after and he can sit for awhile, Without that, I think we have to get Rosen, who I really don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Ha, I didn't say it would be pretty...I also just dont expect the rookie to be on the bench long, if at all. So I just dont really care about the bridge on a personal level. I think whoever we take this draft is the one most likely going to be starting week 1 personally. Although AJ would be an interesting signing, just think it could be a waste of money if he is sitting on our bench behind a rookie. Edited March 13, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If they need a veteran in locker room who is not going to play hire an assistant QB coach who has recently played. Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Ha, I didn't say it would be pretty...I also just dont expect the rookie to be on the bench long, if at all. So I just dont really care about the bridge on a personal level. I think whoever we take this draft is the one most likely going to be starting week 1 personally. So you are saying the bridge is only a temporary one to be blown up as soon as possible? Then bring some in camp who is told that they will not be on roster week 1 and get rid of the goat path bridge now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...seriously?.....one of the worst signings ever...the guy was concussed FIVE times between Eagles and 'Zona...no noodle left......he was one hit away from Musk's Mars shot before the "mat" got 'em.... Rosen is only three behind Kolb. But I saw two hits in High School (where I live) where he landed hard on his head. If Rosen was more mobile I would love the guy but..... Concerned 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: I forgot who I was talking to. You've never met a biased opinion you didn't like. Unless you were in the locker room you have no idea what Tyrod did or didn't do. All the evidence points to Tyrod being a consummate professional and being helpful to Nate, including interviews with the players themselves. I'll take public record over your biased opinion. Biased opinion? Whatever it is my opinion of him and others tend to agree. Many already know the team threw that LA game to make sure Tyrod was brought back as the starter. Sadly some posters hold that one game against Peterman, sadly the team made sure Peterman failed bad in that game. Tyrod helped only himself, take it for whatever but Tyrod helped Tyrod and he will do the same in Cleveland. He is not a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, 947 said: I'd be OK with this, as long as the rookie is Mayfield or Rosen. The other rookies will need as much as a full season on the bench before playing, in that case, I'd like a Foles or McCarron for 2018. This except for giving up any draft picks for Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: This except for giving up any draft picks for Foles. Agree with you.. Man, Peterman is about as popular as Donald Trump at a Cinco de Mayo celebration. It was a bad move by the coaches. That being said, I think we would have lost with Tyrod behind center that day. The Chargers were playing well during that stretch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, MOVALLEYRANDY said: Agree with you.. Man, Peterman is about as popular as Donald Trump at a Cinco de Mayo celebration. It was a bad move by the coaches. That being said, I think we would have lost with Tyrod behind center that day. The Chargers were playing well during that stretch It doesn’t matter how popular Nate is with the fans. All that matters is what McDermott thinks. The Nate haters will just have to deal with what is. Or feel free to follow another team. What was that thread? What would it take for you to dump the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Peterman is somewhere between the LA and Indy game. I still think he can be a serviceable backup and I think McD will give him one more shot to show improvement. We're running out of bridge qb options so maybe Foles is still in play? Darnold will require more polishing where Rosen or Baker could possibly be plug m play? We'll definitely have 3 quarterbacks in camp and Peterman will be no worse then practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) We are going into free agency with $40,000,000. I'm at a loss as to why having a veteran QB around is seen as bad thing. Write the veteran a check, tell your bright shiny new QB he has to beat him out in camp and either he does beat him out in year 1 or he doesn't. On some levels it almost seems like we're going to have a hard time spending to our cap. Edited March 13, 2018 by Tyrod's friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: It doesn’t matter how popular Nate is with the fans. All that matters is what McDermott thinks. The Nate haters will just have to deal with what is. Or feel free to follow another team. What was that thread? What would it take for you to dump the team. I know it doesn't matter but if he earns the spot in the coaches view I hope there isn't tremendous booing for a couple of three and outs or an interception. I like the kid (I'm old,58) and if you look at him in Pittsburgh he has some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: We are going into free agency with $40,000,000. I'm at a loss as to why having a veteran QB around is seen as bad thing. Write the guy a check, tell your bright shiny new QB he has to beat him out in camp and either he does beat him out in year 1 or he doesn't. On some levels it almost seems like we're going to have a hard time spending to our cap. As long as it doesn't cost too much, I'm with you. Rather spend the money on Trumaine Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: We are going into free agency with $40,000,000. I'm at a loss as to why having a veteran QB around is seen as bad thing. Write the veteran a check, tell your bright shiny new QB he has to beat him out in camp and either he does beat him out in year 1 or he doesn't. On some levels it almost seems like we're going to have a hard time spending to our cap. Takes two to make a deal. I think they tried Bradford but that contract is silly. Will be interesting. I'm trusting but anxious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: As long as it doesn't cost too much, I'm with you. Rather spend the money on Trumaine Johnson. With the amount of money we have to spend, there's no reason not to be able to get whatever player (outside of Cousins) that the team wants. If we don't sign Trumaine Johnson, it's because people that write the checks say you are wrong or Tru wanted to live closer to his homies or whatever. It's not about dollars. Especially now that the $20MM guys are all signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: Agree with you.. Man, Peterman is about as popular as Donald Trump at a Cinco de Mayo celebration. It was a bad move by the coaches. That being said, I think we would have lost with Tyrod behind center that day. The Chargers were playing well during that stretch Maybe we can trade Peteredman for some 4th year QB another team is not going to resign. They get a QB for three more years to potty train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: We are going into free agency with $40,000,000. I'm at a loss as to why having a veteran QB around is seen as bad thing. Write the veteran a check, tell your bright shiny new QB he has to beat him out in camp and either he does beat him out in year 1 or he doesn't. On some levels it almost seems like we're going to have a hard time spending to our cap. No we are not (officially tomorrow). Thus far with the advertised deals the Cap figure is already down to $30 mil. I expect another 8 to 10 to come off once the $ figures are released. 10 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: I know it doesn't matter but if he earns the spot in the coaches view I hope there isn't tremendous booing for a couple of three and outs or an interception. I like the kid (I'm old,58) and if you look at him in Pittsburgh he has some talent. My post was a general comment and not directed at you. Yeah it was bad but we really need to see more to pass a fair judgment. When Jimmy G was playing poorly in spot duty Bills fans liked to mock him. Now you see some people praising him for a whole 7 games that he started. It will work itself out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 This thread was made for SaviorPeterman, and yet he's nowhere to be seen. Too many important meeting I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, grb said: This thread was made for SaviorPeterman, and yet he's nowhere to be seen. Too many important meeting I guess..... Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Just to be clear, I'm not arguing against a veteran QB. But if we can't get anyone good, and we are reduced to picking scraps, would it be any worse to roll with Peterman and save the $10-15MM any bottom-rung veteran would cost you? Edited March 13, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Just to be clear, I'm not arguing against a veteran QB. But if we can't get anyone good, and we are reduced to picking scraps, would it be any worse to roll with Peterman and save the $10-15MM any bottom-rung veteran would cost you? There are 1 maybe 2 viable options left for a FA QB. I’m one for not overspending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Yes, it would absolutely suck. This team made the playoffs last year with a remedial passing attack. Trading Tyrod Taylor made a lot of sense, you upgrade the passing attack with a veteran QB that is better. Bradford would have fit that bill nicely. You can win games with him, and there wouldn't be no pressure to put a rookie QB in too soon. The Bills hit a roadblock yesterday. Their lack of WRs may have had an impact. Start Peterman? Be prepared to go 0-5. Matt Moore? Just as bad. I'm not sure what their remaining options are to actually have an upgraded passing attack on opening day. I'm pretty sure a rook and Nate P isn't it. I guess I'd take a shot at McCarron. At least we don't know if he sucks or not yet. Currently the Bills are the only NFL team to not have a starting QB on the roster . I f the goal remains to win now and in the future, the Bills will have to do better than a Matt Moore type vet. I'm stunned that Bridgewater is going to the Jets for just $5 million. The Bills must have showed zero interest. Why go to the Jets , with McCown and a likely high draft pick at QB vs the Bills with Nate Peterman and a rook? Edited March 14, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Do you know what I heard from an uneducated football sports guy on the radio in DC yesterday? Peterman sucks. Funny the same set of guys said the Bills sucked last season too. Lets not be like the uneducated football sports guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: The SD game aside, I thought NP was okay. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cash said: Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? that was silly the first time I read that posted. How did he play in relief in the Saints game? How did he play in relief in the NE game? How did he play in the blizzard in the Colts game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookylookyherecomescookie Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Yes, it would absolutely suck. This team made the playoffs last year with a remedial passing attack. Trading Tyrod Taylor made a lot of sense, you upgrade the passing attack with a veteran QB that is better. Bradford would have fit that bill nicely. You can win games with him, and there wouldn't be no pressure to put a rookie QB in too soon. The Bills hit a roadblock yesterday. Their lack of WRs may have had an impact. Start Peterman? Be prepared to go 0-5. Matt Moore? Just as bad. I'm not sure what they're remaining options are to actually have an upgraded passing attack on opening day. I'm pretty sure a rook and Nate P isn't it. I guess I'd take a shot at McCarron. At least we don't know if he sucks or not yet. Currently the Bills are the only NFL team to not have a starting QB on the roster . I f the goal remains to win now and in the future, the Bills will have to do better than a Matt Moore type vet. I'm stunned that Bridgewater is going to the Jets for just $5 million. The Bills must have showed zero interest. Why go to the Jets , with McCown and a likely high draft pick at QB vs the Bills with Nate Peterman and a rook? Doesn't that just broadcast that Mcbeane is going all in on his first round qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If that really is the plan -- to trade up for a rookie and go into the season with just the rookie and Peterman at QB... Well, the 2019 first round draft pick had better NOT be part of the capital used to move up in the trade. That could wind up being a top 5 pick next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 There are still options. The Bills aren’t going with Peterman and a rookie. Guys like McCarron and Moore are still out there. Anderson is out there, you can get Siemian for basically nothing. The Bills are going to be playing the rookie relatively early it looks like. That is what we all wanted anyways. Take a deep breath and let it play out. The Bills are doing the right thing by not overpaying for a placeholder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are still options. The Bills aren’t going with Peterman and a rookie. Guys like McCarron and Moore are still out there. Anderson is out there, you can get Siemian for basically nothing. The Bills are going to be playing the rookie relatively early it looks like. That is what we all wanted anyways. Take a deep breath and let it play out. The Bills are doing the right thing by not overpaying for a placeholder. McCarron is the "safer" bet, Moore is well known. Yes, there are options still available. In the Ginger Hammer I trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Perhaps they like Peterman more than we do and likely see little difference between him and a guy like AJ McCarron. There needs to be a vet in the room however, whether that is a guy like Matt Moore or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 51 minutes ago, Cash said: Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play? So players get one half of football to prove themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said: Takes two to make a deal. I think they tried Bradford but that contract is silly. Will be interesting. I'm trusting but anxious There were indeed some silly contracts agreed to yesterday. I just hope they have a plan and yesterday didn't screw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are still options. The Bills aren’t going with Peterman and a rookie. Guys like McCarron and Moore are still out there. Anderson is out there, you can get Siemian for basically nothing. The Bills are going to be playing the rookie relatively early it looks like. That is what we all wanted anyways. Take a deep breath and let it play out. The Bills are doing the right thing by not overpaying for a placeholder. There's a line somewhere between veteran presence and crap. When you start getting down to Trevor Siemian you are crossing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 it is a huge gamble at this point. Lets remember all they should be able to move in the top 5 until they do nothing is certain. It is reckless to not add a qb at this time . If they are able to get a deal for the 2 or 3 than it will not matter as much. Currently it is not a great situation it is a huge gamble at this point. Lets remember all they should be able to move in the top 5 until they do nothing is certain. It is reckless to not add a qb at this time . If they are able to get a deal for the 2 or 3 than it will not matter as much. Currently it is not a great situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Step right up ladies and gentlemen and pick your QB . http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/ Well from the looks of that list, I think it's time to bring EJ back in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If they spent the savings to fill holes like Allen Robinson & Norwell or even lower down the pay scale like Richardson or Weston Richburg, sure I could embrace that type of scenario. But if all we get is Rafael Bush and a bunch of unused cap space, that's an awful plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: "Well, other than THAT, Mrs Lincoln, How did you like the play?" Yes, I think it would be that bad Thanks. I don't get it at all. This seems reckless. I expected a little patience, recognition that there a building process going n I. And also recognition that some QB might grow into a real stsr, like Cousins, Keenum or Foles. This seems like a crap shoot on an untested rookie. The only other explanation is that McD really likes Peterman and that his one NFL outing was aberrational. Maybe McD thinks Peterman will be as good as McCarron, which is the bare minimum the Bills need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are still options. The Bills aren’t going with Peterman and a rookie. Guys like McCarron and Moore are still out there. Anderson is out there, you can get Siemian for basically nothing. The Bills are going to be playing the rookie relatively early it looks like. That is what we all wanted anyways. Take a deep breath and let it play out. The Bills are doing the right thing by not overpaying for a placeholder. I'm wondering if they are working to move up with the Broncos and part of the deal may include Siemian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 14 hours ago, xRUSHx said: Biased opinion? Whatever it is my opinion of him and others tend to agree. Many already know the team threw that LA game to make sure Tyrod was brought back as the starter. Sadly some posters hold that one game against Peterman, sadly the team made sure Peterman failed bad in that game. Tyrod helped only himself, take it for whatever but Tyrod helped Tyrod and he will do the same in Cleveland. He is not a mentor. i know that is not a popular opinion. i haven't done the research and it has never been mentioned yet, but what was the status of our receiving corp that day? if i remember correctly we didn't have anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: There's a line somewhere between veteran presence and crap. When you start getting down to Trevor Siemian you are crossing it. He is 13-11 as a starter. In 2 years he has thrown 30 TDs to 24 INTs. He’s a smart game manager. No, he is not the long-term guy but none of these guys are but Cousins. The rest are fool’s gold. Is that really worse than these guys that were out there? In addition he is below $2M!! Give me Siemian at that price instead any of the contracts signed yesterday besides Cousins and Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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