Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Alex Smith was the best deep ball passer in the league last year: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-most-accurate-deep-ball-passers-in-2017 It is a near certainty that their deep passing game will not be as good this year. Which makes the decision to trade Smith and force Mahomes into the starting role all the more baffling. Especially since we all know Mahomes will revert back to his TT footwork and start throwing balls up for grabs. It’s gonna be a long year for the Chiefs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 i wish Sammy well, i didnt shed a tear for him when he was traded. he has the ability to be top ten receiver in the league, he got traded purely because of the risk. u cant overpay for a guy who was hurt as much as he was while playing here. has he turned it around. mbe, is he worth 10mil per? mbe. will be real interesting to watch next season, if that young QB can find him. if not, Sammy wont be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, nucci said: why would a hot looking girl need to wait until closing time? Because she is being fed free drinks by guys like you all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Yav said: I live in KC, I do NOT have to put any respect on an idiots name. If you want to kiss his feet you go right ahead as for Mahomes, I've called that trade for KC a joke and I'm not backing off that until I see the kid do something over a season. I think KC reached for a MEH QB. Me calling Kelce a great TE is kissing his feet? Why are you angry online dude? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He is? I must have missed that last year. Goff had YPA of 8 last year and 66 of his 296 completions went for 20+ yards. And is Sammy only useful with the "deep ball"? He is yes. It's not something that Goff does well. Watkins can run every route with proficiency, but his deep speed has to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Me calling Kelce a great TE is kissing his feet? Why are you angry online dude? LOL! You told me to show him respect. He's done nothing to earn that from me, so hence my comment about "you can kiss his feet". Living her I've grown to dislike the Chefs, their players and many of their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 What are Chefs fans saying about this? Are they pissed that the Chefs gave him more than double what his production would merit or are they geeked about his untapped potential? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Let me put it this way - you watch the tape and generally one doesn't come away with a feeling that Watkins is an elite receiver. He's in that "good" range, but too inconsistent. He also tends to disappear on the field at times, and has durability questions. Nagging injuries tend to take away his game more than others. Some people are simply able to play "hurt" better than others (e.g., they play through stiffness, muscle soreness, etc., better), and I don't see him as one of them. That said, he is still young and fast (when healthy) so he could certainly turn around his career in the right situation. Receivers often take several years to get going in the NFL. But, in my humble opinion, the Chiefs are paying too much for the speculative side of this deal. Kudos to Watkins and his agent for getting it done. Edited March 13, 2018 by Murdox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Yav said: 2. Kelce is a jackass and gets kicked out of games 3. Watkins will get hurt and miss at least 8 games Watkins missed one game last year fwiw. 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Patrick Mahomes is a special talent. I was calling him QB1 all last year and I'm not budging off that now. Travis Kelce is the second best TE in this league. Put some respect on his name. Kelce is a monster. 2nd best TE behind Gronk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Decoy power. I wonder what the excuse will be this time... KC paying for potential, not production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Watkins missed one game last year fwiw. Kelce is a monster. 2nd best TE behind Gronk I'm rolling with Delanie if I can't have Gronk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Thought he was going to get like 13 which I still think would be overpriced. 16 mil per year for the 4th most productive receiver on the Rams last year? Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It has nothing to do with paying attention and everything to do with the leverage I felt like the NFL had. Not trying to pile on but you suggested that the Goodwin contract set the market for Watkins. Goodwin got 3 years, $20.3M and $10M guaranteed. Watkins got 3 years, $48M, $30M guaranteed. It wasn’t like you were a little off. He got 3x the guaranteed money!! That’s the equivalent of guessing that Kirk Cousins would get $10M a year. The reason that you are taking some ribbing is because you were adamant (“promise” & “guarantee” were your words) that he wasn’t going to get what most everyone else could clearly see. In the NFL contracts are determined by the market. The Davante Adams’ contract was a clear indication of the money that Robinson and Watkins would see. That was obvious to anyone paying attention. So now, you and others, have to put up with a little extra ?. We still love you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Thought he was going to get like 13 which I still think would be overpriced. 16 mil per year for the 4th most productive receiver on the Rams last year? Yikes He also had the most TDs amongst Rams WRs and a pretty high ypc of 17 or so. If you watched Rams games, you'd see what he was doing in that offense and that he could easily have had bigger stats. Teams aren't looking at what Goff did with Watkins , but at what they could do with their own QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: He also had the most TDs amongst Rams WRs and a pretty high ypc of 17 or so. If you watched Rams games, you'd see what he was doing in that offense and that he could easily have had bigger stats. Teams aren't looking at what Goff did with Watkins , but at what they could do with their own QB. I was called a moron for suggesting this as well. I stated that he was crazy important, drawing double coverage constantly, allowing kupp and woods plenty of open space and mismatches. I was told I was an idiot and that kupp was far better. Man, I love how good this contract tastes, it's like victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: He also had the most TDs amongst Rams WRs and a pretty high ypc of 17 or so. If you watched Rams games, you'd see what he was doing in that offense and that he could easily have had bigger stats. Teams aren't looking at what Goff did with Watkins , but at what they could do with their own QB. I don't buy that theory 100 percent. I understand that it is for sure a bit of a factor, but at the end of the day, great receivers produce great numbers. 4 years in his career and teams are still paying tons for his potential, not his production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 This means cooks will hit the market in 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not trying to pile on but you suggested that the Goodwin contract set the market for Watkins. Goodwin got 3 years, $20.3M and $10M guaranteed. Watkins got 3 years, $48M, $30M guaranteed. It wasn’t like you were a little off. He got 3x the guaranteed money!! That’s the equivalent of guessing that Kirk Cousins would get $10M a year. The reason that you are taking some ribbing is because you were adamant (“promise” & “guarantee” were your words) that he wasn’t going to get what most everyone else could clearly see. In the NFL contracts are determined by the market. The Davante Adams’ contract was a clear indication of the money that Robinson and Watkins would see. That was obvious to anyone paying attention. So now, you and others, have to put up with a little extra ?. We still love you Sammy got more than Davante with worse production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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