Mango Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I think that's before deducting the amount that they currently have paid out in contracts/restrictions. So really the adjusted number of actual cap "available" is significantly lower. I think... I could definitely be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think that's before deducting the amount that they currently have paid out in contracts/restrictions. So really the adjusted number of actual cap "available" is significantly lower. I think... I could definitely be wrong. that is their total cap, not cap space. 177 million plus whatever rolls over from this year. Never knew you could roll that much over. the title is misleading. Cap space should change to total cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think that's before deducting the amount that they currently have paid out in contracts/restrictions. So really the adjusted number of actual cap "available" is significantly lower. I think... I could definitely be wrong. Yes, it has to be, as they’re all higher than the league cap amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I guess moral of the story is suck and unload as many contracts as possible. Get the 1st pick and have a huge roll over and voila your a contender. Then theres the Browns..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 We are ninth in total cap space, if I counted correctly. seems like we should be better than middle of the cap in overall cap space, but I get it with our dead cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Browns have $108 million in cap space for 2018. The 49ers had more at $110 million but now they're down to $67 million with the Garoppolo contract. 3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: We are ninth in total cap space, if I counted correctly. seems like we should be better than middle of the cap in overall cap space, but I get it with our dead cap space. According to spotrac we are 16th in total cap space as of right now. We have a ton of dead cap this year. As of right now, the Bills will have the 5th most cap space next season (2019) with $97 million. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I guess moral of the story is suck and unload as many contracts as possible. Get the 1st pick and have a huge roll over and voila your a contender. Then theres the Browns..... Never. Jacksonville kind of did this, but it takes a long time. Luck plays a huge role also. 3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Browns have $108 million in cap space for 2018. The 49ers had more at $110 million but now they're down to $67 million with the Garoppolo contract. According to spotrac we are 16th in total cap space as of right now. We have a ton of dead cap this year. As of right now, the Bills will have the 5th most cap space next season (2019) with $97 million. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ Browns will have a hard time spending that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Browns have $108 million in cap space for 2018. The 49ers had more at $110 million but now they're down to $67 million with the Garoppolo contract. According to spotrac we are 16th in total cap space as of right now. We have a ton of dead cap this year. As of right now, the Bills will have the 5th most cap space next season (2019) with $97 million. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ Indeed, and I am looking forward to it. However, we'll also have new holes to fill, like Incognito, Benjamin and I believe Alexander and Groy, just to name a few. Edited March 6, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I guess moral of the story is suck and unload as many contracts as possible. Get the 1st pick and have a huge roll over and voila your a contender. Then theres the Browns..... Seattle was the youngest team in the NFL when they won the SB 4 seasons ago....dominant and pretty loaded......in the 1980's being that young and that good would have meant they'd be a force for the next 7-8 years. But 2-3 years later their roster was increasingly average and now 4 years after that SB win they are a wildcard team with a fairly weak roster carried by a franchise QB. In general 21st century history shows it's better to stay competitive and aggressively search for your QB than to try to stack blue chip talents that the salary cap won't allow you to keep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mango said: Just wow! And all it took to achieve it was losing nearly every game. Edited March 7, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Indeed, and I am looking forward to it. However, we'll also have new holes to fill, like Incognito, Benjamin and I believe Alexander and Groy, just to name a few. You are expecting the Bills to just let Benjamin walk? Edited March 6, 2018 by Mark Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Browns have $108 million in cap space for 2018. The 49ers had more at $110 million but now they're down to $67 million with the Garoppolo contract. According to spotrac we are 16th in total cap space as of right now. We have a ton of dead cap this year. As of right now, the Bills will have the 5th most cap space next season (2019) with $97 million. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ ...wouldn't surprise me one bit if McBeane doesn't ALREADY have that number on his radar as well as preliminary sketches as to what the overall 2019 draftees may look like.....guy just gives me the impression of a long term planner which is a good thing IMO.....think about 2018 FA/Draft as well as 2019 FA/Draft......back to back home runs would be pinnacle...BUT....I'd sure as hell take back to back three baggers which could set this club up as a perennial contender long term.....the oldtimer is running outta time for that Lombardi......and Hell's Kitchen doesn't have heat resistant LCD's........... Edited March 6, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Yes, it has to be, as they’re all higher than the league cap amount. I knew the number seemed too high for the League´s CAP to begin with, I knew I could be behind in news, but that seemed an astronomical jump from what I recall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Seattle was the youngest team in the NFL when they won the SB 4 seasons ago....dominant and pretty loaded......in the 1980's being that young and that good would have meant they'd be a force for the next 7-8 years. But 2-3 years later their roster was increasingly average and now 4 years after that SB win they are a wildcard team with a fairly weak roster carried by a franchise QB. In general 21st century history shows it's better to stay competitive and aggressively search for your QB than to try to stack blue chip talents that the salary cap won't allow you to keep. Agree with this a great amount. I would say though Seattle's core was thanks to McCloughan more then Schnieder. Wilson, Sherman, & Kam were all his guys and the main cogs of the machine. At this point the Hawks would be smart to do what the Pats did after their D declined from their SB teams in the early 2000s and build the heck around Wilson. Make that offense strong again at the line and they will be alright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Mark Vader said: You are expecting the Bills to just let Benjamin walk? Not at at all Mark, just in relation to the cap it's someone you have to pay and account for, even if he was on your team previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: In general 21st century history shows it's better to stay competitive and aggressively search for your QB than to try to stack blue chip talents that the salary cap won't allow you to keep. Yep. The Superbowl was just won by a team that have their QB cheap and so are able to load up on other positions for a few years which was the Seattle mode. The Ravens won the Superbowl in their last year of Flacco's 'cheap' rookie contract (even though that was under the old CBA) and have been trying to find a balance that works ever since. If you find a Quarterback who can win by his 2nd year you have a window now in the NFL where you can really load up. The Rams have loaded up around Goff the same way. The key to trying to sustain the success is weaning yourself off the right support at the right time. Seattle's mistake was allowing the OL to take too much of the hit to try and keep all their stars on D. I reckon if they had sacrificed one of those big name big salary defenders - Avril, Bennet, Wagner, Chancellor, Sherman, Thomas to bring in a proper offensive tackle in free agency they might have won another Superbowl. Of course not making that stupid Unger for Graham trade would have helped too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Am I reading this wrong? It says the cap is 177m and it has us listed at 188m. How do I read this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Am I reading this wrong? It says the cap is 177m and it has us listed at 188m. How do I read this? The picture shows total cap not cap space. So that is $177m plus $11m rolled over from the 2017 cap that was unused which gives you the $188. The reason Cleveland and San Fran seem to have more than $100m more than the salary cap is that they basically just met the floor for cap spend in 2017 and Cleveland only did that by allowing the Texans to salary dump Osweiler's contract on their books - so they both have a huge amount to roll over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 $200,000,000+ in cap space Talk about roster turnover. I think a more accurate presentation of what's available can be found here: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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