Kyle Lauletta (Richmond) the target?

[Jay_Fixit]

14 hours ago, PIZ said:

Per Benjamin Allbrights Twitter:

 

"Everyone who had Richmond QB Kyle Lauletta slotted as a "day 3 guy" can go ahead and move him up to day 2".

 

Per Eric Edholm, Pro Football Weekly Twitter:

 

"Anyone remember QB Aaron Corp? Had cups of coffee with the Bills, Cowboys and Dolphins

He was Kyle Lauletta's QB coach this past season at Richmond".

I was actually there for Aaron Corps only career FBS start (with USC).

 

Here at UW. Jake Locker’s coming out party. Huskies pulled a huge upset. One of the coolest experiences I’ve had at a college game.

 

Aaron Corp. Terrible.

Edited March 4, 2018 by Jay_Fixit

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I was actually there for Aaron Corps only career college start.

 

Here at UW. Jake Locker’s coming out party.

Corp transferred to Richmond and had plenty of starts..Lauletta is WAY better than Corp. Not even close

[boyst]

10 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Go back and read the exchange and you can  off. 

 

[CuddyDark]

46 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

So you're saying all QB prospects have an equal chance to be good players at the NFL level?    Lauletta is just as likely to be as good as Darnold or Rosen? I disagree on Mayfield, but if that's your opinion fine. 

Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as  Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10.

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:

Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as  Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10.

 

There are holes in the respective games of each of the top tiered QBs as most will acknowledge.  I'm certain that Rosen, Darnold, and Allen will all be selected within the top 10 with Mayfield a possibility as well.  We'll soon see who's correct. 

[BringBackFergy]

1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

That's what it sounds like he's implying, or at least what I got out of it.

 

There are 5 legit prospects this year, even if everybody ranks them differently, the overwhelming majority seems to have it as, in no particular order:

 

-Allen

-darnold

- Ferguson

-Rosen

-Jackson

-mayfield

 

Outside of them, I haven't heard any top QB talk, just a bunch of "he might be good" guys.

 

Technically any guy can be good, as guys like Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Carr, and other later picks have shown.

They are the exception though, not the norm, and the % of top5 drafted QBs that succeed is astronomically higher, so I'm with you cb26.

 

If they like a guy, go freaking get him.

Obviously if nobody wants to trade, they need a backup plan, but Christ Almighty, we can't go into the draft with lauletta/Rudolph/white as plan A

Fixed it for you.

[SouthNYfan]

54 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Fixed it for you.

 

Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects.

I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects.

Nice try though.

[BringBackFergy]

5 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects.

I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects.

Nice try though.

Opinions vary. 

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects.

I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects.

Nice try though.

Ferguson has roots in WNY, his uncle is an ambulance chaser outside lake flaccid. This is a good opportunity for him to come in to the area 

[SouthNYfan]

25 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Opinions vary. 

 

Not in this case.

Who YOU feel belongs in the top5, and who is the consensus top5 from actual sources/reports are not the same thing.

It's not an opinion who the consensus top5 QBs in this draft are.

The only thing that varies is the order they are ranked within each other.

 

13 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Ferguson has roots in WNY, his uncle is an ambulance chaser outside lake flaccid. This is a good opportunity for him to come in to the area 

 

Didn't say anything about that, fergy was acting like he's a top5 consensus QB pick, which he isn't.

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

That's what it sounds like he's implying, or at least what I got out of it.

 

There are 5 legit prospects this year, even if everybody ranks them differently, the overwhelming majority seems to have it as, in no particular order:

 

-Allen

-darnold

-Rosen

-Jackson

-mayfield

 

Outside of them, I haven't heard any top QB talk, just a bunch of "he might be good" guys.

 

Technically any guy can be good, as guys like Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Carr, and other later picks have shown.

They are the exception though, not the norm, and the % of top5 drafted QBs that succeed is astronomically higher, so I'm with you cb26.

 

If they like a guy, go freaking get him.

Obviously if nobody wants to trade, they need a backup plan, but Christ Almighty, we can't go into the draft with lauletta/Rudolph/white as plan A

 

Rodgers was a first round pick and Carr was a second. I get your point but I definitely wouldn't classify those 2 as late round QBs

 

they were first 2 rounds

[SouthNYfan]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Rodgers was a first round pick and Carr was a second. I get your point but I definitely wouldn't classify those 2 as late round QBs

 

they were first 2 rounds

 

That's fair

I was just saying they weren't "omg top picks" per say

Anyway, the point we agree on

[BringBackFergy]

1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Not in this case.

Who YOU feel belongs in the top5, and who is the consensus top5 from actual sources/reports are not the same thing.

It's not an opinion who the consensus top5 QBs in this draft are.

The only thing that varies is the order they are ranked within each other.

 

 

 

You’re right...I should listen to Mel Kiper (Mr. Jimmy Clausen himself) and that other bonehead who thought Ryan Nassib would be drafted #1 overall. If you base your arguments (and attacks) on consensus, you’re a follower with no original thought. Air go, I’ll choose to disregard your argument. 

[Kmart128]

We seem more interested in Mike White than Lauletta

[SouthNYfan]

15 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

You’re right...I should listen to Mel Kiper (Mr. Jimmy Clausen himself) and that other bonehead who thought Ryan Nassib would be drafted #1 overall. If you base your arguments (and attacks) on consensus, you’re a follower with no original thought. Air go, I’ll choose to disregard your argument. 

 

They make a lot more money than you and I to do exactly that, generate a consensus draft ranking.

 

Riley Ferguson, I am 100% positive, is not a top5 qb prospect on any NFL scouts' list, ERGO, he is not a consensus top5 prospect.

 

He may be who a team thinks they will be able to draft, or who they want to draft based on his value/draft location, but the statement was who was a top5 prospect, which he is NOT, regardless of your opinion.

[BringBackFergy]

13 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

They make a lot more money than you and I to do exactly that, generate a consensus draft ranking.

 

Riley Ferguson, I am 100% positive, is not a top5 qb prospect on any NFL scouts' list, ERGO, he is not a consensus top5 prospect.

 

He may be who a team thinks they will be able to draft, or who they want to draft based on his value/draft location, but the statement was who was a top5 prospect, which he is NOT, regardless of your opinion.

That’s funny, I thought this thread was about Lauletta until you chimed in with your consensus Top 5. I have to hand it to you, nice job regurgitating the same Top 5 as every other website draft guru who drinks Mountain Dew by the liter and wears Birkenstocks. Bravo!

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

4 hours ago, CuddyDark said:

Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as  Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10.

Or 4 will be selected in the first 6 picks. I think that is more likely than only 2 in top 10. We'll see these guys may be better than you think.

[SouthNYfan]

3 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

That’s funny, I thought this thread was about Lauletta until you chimed in with your consensus Top 5. I have to hand it to you, nice job regurgitating the same Top 5 as every other website draft guru who drinks Mountain Dew by the liter and wears Birkenstocks. Bravo!

 

The thread was accepted about lauletta, which somebody was all up on him being a top choice, to which I brought up the top5, to which you "fixed it" by adding Ferguson.

Stop the bull *****t.

[CuddyDark]

26 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

Or 4 will be selected in the first 6 picks. I think that is more likely than only 2 in top 10. We'll see these guys may be better than you think.

I would take a cash bet of 4 in the top 6.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

30 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:

I would take a cash bet of 4 in the top 6.

You're on and you need only 2 in top 10. 

[FearLess Price]

20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I watched three of his 2017 games and I just wasn't that impressed with any facet of his game.  

 

I read a bunch of people on here gassing him up, also watched some tape and walked away "meh" on it.

 

Thetes much better options this year and we have the draft capital to move up.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, FearLess Price said:

 

I read a bunch of people on here gassing him up, also watched some tape and walked away "meh" on it.

 

Thetes much better options this year and we have the draft capital to move up.

 

That's exactly what I did after the hype he was getting from the Senior Bowl.  I reached the same conclusion. 

[billykay]

10 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Yes, will take a lot to outbid them.

They may have more cap room but they do not have more draft capital than us. In fact, imo, next to Cleveland, we may have the most draft capital.

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, billykay said:

They may have more cap room but they do not have more draft capital than us. In fact, imo, next to Cleveland, we may have the most draft capital.

Correct. The Bills (outside of the Browns who don’t need to move up) are the only team with 2 1st rd picks. The Bills could trade both 1sts,  a 2018 2nd and next year’s first to move up to 2, and still have 6 picks in the first 5 rounds. Plus I still think they will add draft capital for Glenn and Taylor or use them as trade chips in place of picks.

 

last year the Chiefs moved up 17 spots in the 1st by only giving one additional 1st. The Bills want to move up 19 spots ?

Edited March 4, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[PIZ]

I would be ecstatic if the Bills got to 2.  If the Browns go with Barkley (rumor has it) do the Bills go Rosen or Darnold?

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Correct. The Bills (outside of the Browns who don’t need to move up) are the only team with 2 1st rd picks. The Bills could trade both 1sts,  a 2018 2nd and next year’s first to move up to 2, and still have 6 picks in the first 5 rounds. Plus I still think they will add draft capital for Glenn and Taylor or use them as trade chips in place of picks.

 

last year the Chiefs moved up 17 spots in the 1st by only giving one additional 1st. The Bills want to move up 19 spots ?

Good analysis Yolo

[Beast]

No.

 

LOL

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, billykay said:

They may have more cap room but they do not have more draft capital than us. In fact, imo, next to Cleveland, we may have the most draft capital.

This is a common misconception.  If you look at a draft value chart (below is a version updated last year), through the first 3 rounds the Jets have more draft value (793) than the Bills (757) - even though the Bills have one more pick.  Denver (723) has very close to the same value as the Bills.

 

https://www.patspulpit.com/2017/4/23/15398184/2017-nfl-draft-creating-a-brand-new-nfl-draft-value-trade-chart

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Correct. The Bills (outside of the Browns who don’t need to move up) are the only team with 2 1st rd picks. The Bills could trade both 1sts,  a 2018 2nd and next year’s first to move up to 2, and still have 6 picks in the first 5 rounds. Plus I still think they will add draft capital for Glenn and Taylor or use them as trade chips in place of picks.

 

last year the Chiefs moved up 17 spots in the 1st by only giving one additional 1st. The Bills want to move up 19 spots ?

Again, Jets’ picks through the first 3 rounds are higher in value than the Bills’ and the Denver’s’ are very close.

Edited March 5, 2018 by OldTimer1960

[YoloinOhio]

22 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

This is a common misconception.  If you look at a draft value chart (below is a version updated last year), through the first 3 rounds the Jets have more draft value (793) than the Bills (757) - even though the Bills have one more pick.  Denver (723) has very close to the same value as the Bills.

 

https://www.patspulpit.com/2017/4/23/15398184/2017-nfl-draft-creating-a-brand-new-nfl-draft-value-trade-chart

Again, Jets’ picks through the first 3 rounds are higher in value than the Bills’ and the Denver’s’ are very close.

And i still think the Browns and Giants value current players (TT and Glenn respectively) and a 1st rd pick next year more than a 3rd in 2018.

Edited March 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[OldTimer1960]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

And i still think the Browns and Giants value current players (TT and Glenn respectively) and a 1st rd pick next year more than a 3rd in 2018.

That may be true.  My point isn’t to say that trading up isn’t possible, just that the Bills are not extravagantly rich in draft picks compared to Denver and the Jets.

 

i personally would be surprised if any team would give more than a 3rd for Glenn coming off a season lost to injury and I’d be shocked to get better than a 4th for TT.

[Boatdrinks]

Lauletta the Bills target player? I sure hope not. Setting the bar low isn't going to work for this FO/HC. 

[PIZ]

Anyone know anything about NFL Draft Diamonds?

 

NFL Draft Diamonds Twitter:

Like I said before, these are just my predictions. I believe the Bills should draft two QB’s. I know they love Rosen and Lauletta. Why not get them both? Better chance at hitting a Franchise Guy.

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 hours ago, PIZ said:

Anyone know anything about NFL Draft Diamonds?

 

NFL Draft Diamonds Twitter:

Like I said before, these are just my predictions. I believe the Bills should draft two QB’s. I know they love Rosen and Lauletta. Why not get them both? Better chance at hitting a Franchise Guy.

 

 

...used to be on BBMB all of the time........

[OldTimer1960]

14 hours ago, PIZ said:

Anyone know anything about NFL Draft Diamonds?

 

NFL Draft Diamonds Twitter:

Like I said before, these are just my predictions. I believe the Bills should draft two QB’s. I know they love Rosen and Lauletta. Why not get them both? Better chance at hitting a Franchise Guy.

 

I am not opposed to drafting 2 QBs this year, but if they trade all the way up to get Rosen, I don't think they would spend what little they have left this year on another QB.  

 

Now, if they sit tight at 21 and take, say, Mason Rudolph or Lamar Jackson (if he is available), then I think it would be a good move to take someone like Lauletta, Mike White or Luke Falk as early as one of their 2nds or maybe at the end of round 3.  

 

One hope is if 5 or 6 QBs go in round 1, there may not be much demand for the next tier in the draft and you may be able to get one of them later than you otherwise might in a year without so many decent to good prospects.

[SouthNYfan]

16 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

And i still think the Browns and Giants value current players (TT and Glenn respectively) and a 1st rd pick next year more than a 3rd in 2018.

 

I totally misread that as the Giants wanting TT and Glenn lol.

I was like "what??"

Now I get it.

I agree with you.

[Jay_Fixit]

On 2018-03-04 at 7:50 AM, plenzmd1 said:

Corp transferred to Richmond and had plenty of starts..Lauletta is WAY better than Corp. Not even close

I said FBS.

 

Thanks for letting me know your thoughts on Lauletta. 

Edited March 5, 2018 by Jay_Fixit

[plenzmd1]

Okay, just received a note saying Spiders pro day is open to the public. Someone want to pay me $5 to go watch Kyle throw and report back? 

 

I may just go to this for fun.

[plenzmd1]

No one ponied up the $5 , so i took the dogs for a run instead!

 

I did forget about this, and it was a bit windy and definitely chilly today, so think that would be good for Kyle if he threw well in those conditions.

 

http://richmondspiders.com/news/2018/3/13/football-lauletta-teammates-impress-at-spiders-pro-day.aspx

[Blokestradamus]

The Bills sent Northeast area scout Pete Harris to Richmond's pro day yesterday.

 

 

[buffalostu2]

On 3/3/2018 at 6:50 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Lauletta isn't the kind of prospect a team would "target".   You take a flyer on guys like him. 

Leadership major in college.   Our coach might like that