Mark Vader Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 NO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) In a hot second MCcoy stinks. No other team would pay him $8 mil like Buffalo is about to. The most New England will pay for any running back is 3 million. The position is not that important. Edited February 14, 2018 by PIP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: While I learned to love Shady it stands to reason that he is our biggest bargaining chip. Before everybody starts puking our responses just stop and think, the guy is 30 year’s old and he’s not going to single handedly bring us to the Super Bowl. Successful franchises move on and retain value for their aging gridiron stars (New England, Philadelphia under Andy Reid regime, etc etc). Under this his philosophy and speaking of Philadelphia, I believe they are our best outlet to for a starting QB. This would not only allow us to solidify the QB position but also let us retain our best resources (early draft picks) to strengthen the rest of our roster. What I would like to see is for the Bills to trade McCoy and our 2019 6th rd draft pick for Foles, RB Corey Clement and their 2019 4th rd pick. This would enable the Bills to use their 2018 top draft picks on defense, possible C if still needed and I would also like to see them draft UGA RB Sony Michel with their 2nd rd pick. In FA I’d also like for the Bills acquire soon to be released RB DeMarco Murray to a team friendly contract. Absolutely no offense intended, but I can not think of a worse trade than to deal McCoy for Foles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: While I learned to love Shady it stands to reason that he is our biggest bargaining chip. Before everybody starts puking our responses just stop and think, the guy is 30 year’s old and he’s not going to single handedly bring us to the Super Bowl. Successful franchises move on and retain value for their aging gridiron stars (New England, Philadelphia under Andy Reid regime, etc etc). Under this his philosophy and speaking of Philadelphia, I believe they are our best outlet to for a starting QB. This would not only allow us to solidify the QB position but also let us retain our best resources (early draft picks) to strengthen the rest of our roster. What I would like to see is for the Bills to trade McCoy and our 2019 6th rd draft pick for Foles, RB Corey Clement and their 2019 4th rd pick. This would enable the Bills to use their 2018 top draft picks on defense, possible C if still needed and I would also like to see them draft UGA RB Sony Michel with their 2nd rd pick. In FA I’d also like for the Bills acquire soon to be released RB DeMarco Murray to a team friendly contract. Are we going to transfer Philly's OL and WRs here as well? Foles probably will not make as large an impact outside his current system 2 minutes ago, PIP said: In a hot second MCcoy stinks. Yes. The BADOL school of thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: NO I'm colorblind does that say NO ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I don't know why so many think this is such a crazy idea. Getting rid of a 30-year-old RB after the least productive season of his career and obtaining a 29-year-old QB who just led - legitimately led - his team to the Super Bowl Championship is a no-brainer to me. It won't happen. But if it was to happen, the Bills would be on the winning side of the trade, in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So trade our best player... for Nick Foles and sign DeMarco Murray? Why on earth would we do that. We could just draft a QB and keep our best player? or bid for Cousins without giving up Shady. I cannot understand this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Glenn has no trade value with that contract of his attached. Also last time I saw a picture of him he looked like he ate his athletic trainer. Fair- but if you are in good cap shape and desperate for a solid long term solution at LT and convinced Cordy can return to 2015 form, his contract would be considered an asset not liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't know why so many think this is such a crazy idea. Getting rid of a 30-year-old RB after the least productive season of his career and obtaining a 29-year-old QB who just led - legitimately led - his team to the Super Bowl Championship is a no-brainer to me. It won't happen. But if it was to happen, the Bills would be on the winning side of the trade, in my opinion. Philly wouldn't take that trade. That's the funny part of all this. They are going to have to dump contracts and the beauty of Foles is that it allows them to recoup a pick (they are missing a second rounder) or keep him for security with Wentz's recovery pending. Trading for a high mileage high priced RB isn't in the works for a winning program. Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Fair- but if you are in good cap shape and desperate for a solid long term solution at LT and convinced Cordy can return to 2015 form, his contract would be considered an asset not liability. Philly's cap is a mess they are going to have a hard time keep the foundation in place over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: While I learned to love Shady it stands to reason that he is our biggest bargaining chip. Before everybody starts puking our responses just stop and think, the guy is 30 year’s old and he’s not going to single handedly bring us to the Super Bowl. Successful franchises move on and retain value for their aging gridiron stars (New England, Philadelphia under Andy Reid regime, etc etc). Under this his philosophy and speaking of Philadelphia, I believe they are our best outlet to for a starting QB. This would not only allow us to solidify the QB position but also let us retain our best resources (early draft picks) to strengthen the rest of our roster. What I would like to see is for the Bills to trade McCoy and our 2019 6th rd draft pick for Foles, RB Corey Clement and their 2019 4th rd pick. This would enable the Bills to use their 2018 top draft picks on defense, possible C if still needed and I would also like to see them draft UGA RB Sony Michel with their 2nd rd pick. In FA I’d also like for the Bills acquire soon to be released RB DeMarco Murray to a team friendly contract. I would take this deal in a heartbeat. Getting a qb who can run a pro offense and is a capable passer would be a dramatic upgrade from what we have. Foles certainly had a terrific playoff run and SB game. However, it is obvious that he outplayed his talent level. So if you get him expecting to play at an elite level it is a foolish expectation. The Bills desperately need a qb that can run a pro offense, read defenses and have a modicum of accuracy. If he is picked up that doesn't mean that the Bills can't draft a qb such as Rudolph with one of its first round picks or draft a qb such as Falk in the second round. The generation of qb futility needs to end. This organization has to grow up and do whatever it takes to get a capable starting qb. The era of having a pop warner offense is no longer acceptable. Getting a qb like Foles in an exchange would be a smart and decisive act for a franchise that has been boring and inept. Tipster, I'm on board. 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't know why so many think this is such a crazy idea. Getting rid of a 30-year-old RB after the least productive season of his career and obtaining a 29-year-old QB who just led - legitimately led - his team to the Super Bowl Championship is a no-brainer to me. It won't happen. But if it was to happen, the Bills would be on the winning side of the trade, in my opinion. You are astute, perspicacious and adroit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Philly's cap is a mess they are going to have a hard time keep the foundation in place over there. I guess that means Foles for picks only is they way they will swing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) NO! period. Foles is hot garbage. if hes traded someone will have overpayed and just look at the film for the past 3 or 4 years on him. NO Edited February 14, 2018 by Wsam4031 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are astute, perspicacious and adroit! Why are you such a Sesquipedalian as of late? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I could see the Bills trading 22 for Foles. The Eagles are tight on cap. So, trading away $7 mil would open up the Eagles to just pay their rookies/or majority of their rookies in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, JohnC said: You are astute, perspicacious and adroit! Thanks! And you just reminded me of one of my favorite KISS songs ... Adroit Rock City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't know why so many think this is such a crazy idea. Getting rid of a 30-year-old RB after the least productive season of his career and obtaining a 29-year-old QB who just led - legitimately led - his team to the Super Bowl Championship is a no-brainer to me. It won't happen. But if it was to happen, the Bills would be on the winning side of the trade, in my opinion. It's a no brainer for the Bills but makes zero sense for the Eagles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, PIP said: In a hot second MCcoy stinks. No other team would pay him $8 mil like Buffalo is about to. The most New England will pay for any running back is 3 million. The position is not that important. Huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't know why so many think this is such a crazy idea. Getting rid of a 30-year-old RB after the least productive season of his career and obtaining a 29-year-old QB who just led - legitimately led - his team to the Super Bowl Championship is a no-brainer to me. It won't happen. But if it was to happen, the Bills would be on the winning side of the trade, in my opinion. I agree. Why would Philly trade the Super Bowl MVP QB for an aging, albeit still very good, RB? The Bills fleeced them once on the Shady trade; they won't let that happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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