Mark Vader Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Poor Raiders, Jaguars, and Chargers... Do not mind at all 3 teams we will potentially be vying with for playoff contention having this disadvantage. It's ideal that these are the home teams. The Chargers play in a soccer stadium, and the Raiders are in a lame duck city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: It's ideal that these are the home teams. The Chargers play in a soccer stadium, and the Raiders are in a lame duck city. True, so not as big a loss. Maybe that went into the NFL's thinking in making these choices. Still, the travel is less than ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYear'sTheOne Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Meh. 10 hr flight, they can snooze on a red eye. Why? These games a ratings winners. More so than MNF. I must admit I don't hate them as much as I used to now that they show most of the games on standard networks. But making them available only through NFL Network is a garbage money making scheme. From a players stand point, 4 days in between games is not enough time to recuperate and prepare for the next week IMO. I know a few of our players complained about it after the spanking we took on Thursday night and I know a number of other players around the league have voiced a similar concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Marv's Neighbor said: NFL Europe was a bust! The uber crazy commissioner likes a reason to go to London. He says it's successful, but most of us would disagree. I'm sure it is successful to a degree. If the NFL wants to have real success in Europe, they would forget about London, and play these overseas games in Germany. NFL football is very popular there. During the last years of NFL Europe, I believe it was 5 of the 8 teams in the league, played in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: Ya a 10 hour flight plus like a 9 hour time change before/after a football game is brutal lol They don't fly in the day before the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 NFL is dumb and greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, NextYear'sTheOne said: I must admit I don't hate them as much as I used to now that they show most of the games on standard networks. But making them available only through NFL Network is a garbage money making scheme. From a players stand point, 4 days in between games is not enough time to recuperate and prepare for the next week IMO. I know a few of our players complained about it after the spanking we took on Thursday night and I know a number of other players around the league have voiced a similar concern. They are simulcast on network TV (NBC/CBS) for 10 games a year. Also, I really am not concerned about these guys complaining about playing a game for tons of money and being jetted all over the globe to play a game. They are entertainers paid to entertained. They should spare their fans their complaints about the tough life they live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I'm sure it is successful to a degree. If the NFL wants to have real success in Europe, they would forget about London, and play these overseas games in Germany. NFL football is very popular there. During the last years of NFL Europe, I believe it was 5 of the 8 teams in the league, played in Germany. London is the place to be though and the common language assists massively. There are plenty of Germans and Dutch and Scandanavians who come over for the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I absolutely hate games outside the US. England and most of the world outside of the US love soccer, and they can keep those borefests...keep the NFL games here. Not sure if this is anything more than a money grab for the NFL and the teams involved. Go back to NFL Europe is they really have a yearning for American Football. I hear this, but at the same time, the London game a few years ago was a blast and people there were very into it. I don't see the harm as long as it's only a few games. 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: It's ideal that these are the home teams. The Chargers play in a soccer stadium, and the Raiders are in a lame duck city. What no one wants to consider is, there may no longer be 32 American cities who are willing to consistently support a team and it's financial demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: They don't fly in the day before the game... I’m well aware of that. I’m saying it’s not normal for the body to have a 9 hour time change two times, in the span of 3 to 4 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Glad we didn't get pegged for one of those again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Makes sense for Jax because when they first made their deal for an annual game (like Bills in Toronto) they couldn't fill their stadium. For all I know maybe they still can't. Makes sense for Chargers because they play in a tiny stadium so all they have to do is swallow the travel (and have their bye the following week) to get a nice payday. As for the Raiders . . . maybe everyone has to go at least once and they wanted theirs out of the way before they move to Vegas and a big new stadium. Since they're running out on Oakland fans anyway, what's one less home game there and one more crap on the home fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ennjay said: Makes sense for Jax because when they first made their deal for an annual game (like Bills in Toronto) they couldn't fill their stadium. For all I know maybe they still can't. Jaguars still have to use tarps to cover the upper deck in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Aww how cute. The annual protectionist "Europeans don't understand football so give us our games back" thread. Forget that we sell the games out, forget that tv audiences are up this side of the pond (can't all say that can we?) Anyway you partly have your wish.... 3 games next year down from 4 in 2017. Nice that we had the typical "give them NFL Europe back if they must have something." Yea... we didn't much like that cos the product was ****. I'd rather watch the CFL. It's part of the reason soccer still hasn't caught on over there - I've tried to watch MLS games and they are brutal. Ever likely you don't go. I will go to the game at Tottenham this year because it is less than 2 miles from home and if it is an early game I will be able to get back for the vast majority of the Bills game at home. Right, you can all go back to your isolationist bliss now. The international series is here to stay. Just because Americans could good give a rats ass about how other countries feel about American Football does not make us isolationists. Are Europeans isolationists because they continue to try and force feed soccer down Americans throats, via some assorted individual billionaires who love soccor, when Americans have clearly and strongly demonstrated they don't like it? Edited January 11, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Thank goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Jaguars still have to use tarps to cover the upper deck in the regular season. and then also use the 85K that show up in London for their designated 8th home game as part of their avg to show that are not that far away from other NFL team avgs. Edited January 11, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, cba fan said: and then also use the 85K that show up in London for their designated 8th home game as part of their avg to show that are not that far away from other NFL team avgs. I suspect they're going to moving there before too long. They already have an office there and they play there EVERY YEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, cba fan said: Just because Americans could good give a rats ass about how other countries feel about American Football does not make us isolationists. Are Europeans isolationists because they continue to try and force feed soccer down Americans throats, via some assorted individual billionaires who love soccor, when Americans have clearly and strongly demonstrated they don't like it? It's not because you don't give a rat's ass.... it is because you think you somehow have a monopoly on enjoying and understanding it. You don't. The NFL gets that. Sadly many of its fans don't. Edited January 11, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I absolutely hate games outside the US. England and most of the world outside of the US love soccer, and they can keep those borefests...keep the NFL games here. Not sure if this is anything more than a money grab for the NFL and the teams involved. Go back to NFL Europe is they really have a yearning for American Football. I second this emotion. The NFL is in dire need of a development league, anyway. This would satisfy both needs. Only thing left is to allow players to join as early as right out of high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Not surprising who the "Home" teams are. All teams that will probably make more money in London than their actual home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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