klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, dneveu said: Stop just blaming taylor. There were several drops - miscues, penalties. Several missed blocks and screw ups by the protection. He had a bad game, but so did virtually everyone else. I've always stuck up for Taylor when i felt it was justified. He had a horrible game yesterday. Yes, there was plenty of blame to go around, but he was really bad, when we needed him to step up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Run Pass Option. Called a Run with the pass Option. Everyone BLOCKED THE RUN (called play) Tyrod pulled it and threw. Those are just the facts. Maj, I believe this is true, but to help the factual nature of discussion, would be good to cite the source. In this case, I believe the source is McCoy's post-game presser. My thinking is it's still somewhat on Dennison to call a RPO in that context, rather than lead with a straight-up run play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Wagon said: Watch more NFL. It's EXTREMELY hard to just run the ball in on goal to go from the one. The vast majority of successful runs from that distance come off misdirection, a play that hits the outside when everyone is selling out on the inside. The play to Benjamin is a standard NFL call. Benjamin just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar on the OPI. Yes, and the fact that the Jags were stacked to stop the run made it pretty likely that it would have resulted in a second and goal from the 3 or 4 yard line given what we know about the Bills' line play in situations like that. Why people have a problem with that call is beyond me. The problem was the OPI, which you can't account for. Complain about Taylor all you want - and he was bad yesterday - but complaining about this call strikes as very wrongheaded. EVERY team in the NFL runs pass plays in short goal-to-go situations. Every team. Running it up the middle against a stacked, elite D isn't always the best play, and if they did run it, that would have been what you'd have seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I would have ran something like this. Always liked the design of this play and guaranteed to move the nose out of there. http://www.nfl.com/m/share?p=%2Fvideos%2Fnfl-game-highlights%2F09000d5d8228af28%2FJackson-ties-score-with-one-yard-TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Magox said: It was Dennison's fault because they should have just ran it. It was Tyrod's fault because he should have just called the handoff. It was Kelvin's fault because he shouldn't have pushed off. Plenty of blame to go around. And if you look at how the play would have developed the Jag defense didn't get any penetration and it would have most likely have been a touchdown if he had handed it off to Shady. Sad Agreed. Though I don't think Rico should have called a RPO in the first place. We have a good running attack but a poor passing attack. The Jags have a good pass D but a mediocre run D. It was first and goal from the one... Pound it in with a designed power run - no pass option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't like the throws on the 1 yard line. The defense can commit holding, pass interference, almost anything they want on 1st down because there is no damage that it will cause. Get flagged for interference. Big deal. Move the ball forward a foot and re-play the down. They should have run the damn ball. Did McD and Denny go to the Peter Carroll school of coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 It was a bad play call, executed poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 This may be heresy but I think it was the right call .... Run/Pass option The Jags put 10 in the box to stop the run and the WRs ended up in man to man ... send KB into the end zone, have him "post up" and get his body between the defender and the pass ... should be an automatic 6 points. If we miss the play, we are 2nd and goal at the two and the Jags have been put on notice that they have to defend the pass as well as the run. The PROBLEM with the play was ball placement, TT should have thrown the ball to KBs chest and NOT made it a jump ball, and of course the pass interference. It's easy to say the call was bad in hindsight because it didn't work .... but IMHO .... strategically it was the right call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 If it worked everyone would be talking about how great of a call it was. If the Bills had run and didn't get in everyone would have been talking about how we should have thrown. you win some you lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcliff Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Perfect time for the Webb option. He is big enough to get the 1 yard on 4 tries. Never have to worry about hand-off behind the line of scrimmage and losing yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The offense got 0 points, all day, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: You're not dealing in facts. You're not making sense. Is this an everyone but TT's fault thread? Taylor is getting hammered on Boston Radio because he is/was so bad. They are actually giving McD and the rest of the team credit. If they can see it from under Brady's ass then I'm sure you will also see it if you open your eyes. Heck, just listen to the audio of the game, Romo will paint the picture. wfan had the same take "...awful, awful quarterbacking" I don't understand, only a blind person could dispute this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I suggest people watch the play again. As much as it was a run/pass option, there's a chance it was the better to call the pass than run. Watch the unblocked defender the Shady tried to block. He's there mighty fast and may have dropped Shady for a loss on a run. Again not saying it was a correct call design, but it may have been the correct situational decision made by TT based on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, macaroni said: This may be heresy but I think it was the right call .... Run/Pass option The Jags put 10 in the box to stop the run and the WRs ended up in man to man ... send KB into the end zone, have him "post up" and get his body between the defender and the pass ... should be an automatic 6 points. If we miss the play, we are 2nd and goal at the two and the Jags have been put on notice that they have to defend the pass as well as the run. The PROBLEM with the play was ball placement, TT should have thrown the ball to KBs chest and NOT made it a jump ball, and of course the pass interference. It's easy to say the call was bad in hindsight because it didn't work .... but IMHO .... strategically it was the right call. I see your point and don't think it was a HORRIBLE call. But given the respective strengths and weaknesses of each team, what was the likelihood that the Jags could stop 3 low risk running plays up the gut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I guarantee that Benjamin doesn't get called for pushing off if he's on the Patriots, Steelers or Cowboys. Guaranteed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, dneveu said: Thats all well and good. I don't think it was a terrible call to throw. It's Benjamins fault that he got OPI. Not Dennison or Tyrod. I agree. We got Benjamin so we could try to make those plays. Without the OPI it's just an incomplete pass and we get at least 2 tries to pound it in. Not Dennison or Tyrod on this particular play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, kota said: If it worked everyone would be talking about how great of a call it was. If the Bills had run and didn't get in everyone would have been talking about how we should have thrown. you win some you lose some. I have no problem getting stuffed 3 times on runs and kicking a FG, What happened with Benjamin was the worse case scenario and probably much lower % of working than a sneak or a run. But who needs analytics apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mojo44 said: It’s not Denison! It was an OK call given that we have Benjamin. It was the execution. In other words, it was the quarterback! Denison is not the problem! I love this spin. It’s not to coaches fault for calling a play that allows a lousey decision to be made, it’s the QB for making the decision the play Call requires him to. Run the stupid football on first and goal from the 1 and do it again. Period. Go go watch the hawks give away a Super Bowl win to the patsies if you have any questions. Edited January 8, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, TBDlurkerSINCE07 said: How about Benjamin doesn't commit OPI and it's second and goal from the 1? Three chances to run it in. KB deserves some blame here too. Everything is Tyrod's fault..... Get it straight. On top of that why wasn't Kyle in as it worked like a charm last week? Tick-tack penalty that's never call unless blatant, which this was not at all. Edited January 8, 2018 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, kota said: If it worked everyone would be talking about how great of a call it was. If the Bills had run and didn't get in everyone would have been talking about how we should have thrown. you win some you lose some. Not me! I wanted them to run the ball over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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