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51 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

They are just cutting holes in it anyway. Waste of money 

 

Got to start someplace.  It's easier to watch the holes than to watch the entire border.

 

Here is LEGAL immigration statistics for the past 6 years, by country into the US.

There's no appreciable difference in the numbers from 2013 - 2018.

https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2015/table3

https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2018/table3#

 

These are the ILLEGAL immigration population statistics 1990-2017

https://www.statista.com/statistics/646261/unauthorized-immigrant-population-in-the-us/

 

So can you please explain to me why it is bad that this Administration wants to curb ILLEGAL immigration while still allowing LEGAL immigration?  Why?  What reason do you have for disagreeing with this policy?

 

You know, the US population growth is too slow.  Our country needs to boost the birth rate ASAP.  Either that, or else allow people from other countries to make up the difference.  Either way is fine with me, but if our country is going to allow immigration to take up the slack, then we should ALLOW them to enter LEGALLY.  The policy should be to gradually increase the number of applications and open up easier paths to actual legitimate citizenship.  Let them make a family, get jobs, pay taxes, live like regular citizens without having to hide from census takers, etc.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, snafu said:

You know, the US population growth is too slow.  Our country needs to boost the birth rate ASAP.

 

Outlaw abortion? If we had never done that, we would now have about 50 million more people, most of which would be paying taxes and SS and oh my goodness, I just realized we might not be an almost bankrupt ponzai scheme of a social system!

 

Not really, I already knew that as I'm sure most on here do. 

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17 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

But is it a "Bigly" wall. 

 

It's getting biglier and biglier all the time from the sound of it.

 

It's a tremendously holey, bigly wall to be sure.

11 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Outlaw abortion? If we had never done that, we would now have about 50 million more people, most of which would be paying taxes and SS and oh my goodness, I just realized we might not be an almost bankrupt ponzai scheme of a social system!

 

Not really, I already knew that as I'm sure most on here do. 

 

Yeah, 50 million people on welfare!

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1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

It's getting biglier and biglier all the time from the sound of it.

 

It's a tremendously holey, bigly wall to be sure.

Have you gotten on your knees and ask for forgiveness yet? If no, why not?

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18 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Outlaw abortion? If we had never done that, we would now have about 50 million more people, most of which would be paying taxes and SS and oh my goodness, I just realized we might not be an almost bankrupt ponzai scheme of a social system!

 

Not really, I already knew that as I'm sure most on here do. 

 

At a minimum, incentivize childbirth and raising children (pipe dream).

 

 

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2 minutes ago, westside said:

So you're against all the bowing and asking for forgiveness?

 

Does my prior statement not imply that I am not?

1 minute ago, snafu said:

 

At a minimum, incentivize childbirth and raising children (pipe dream).

 

 

 

Just say no to entitlements!

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The Wall, prior to Trump's addition had stretches that were built out of items that were on hand such as Vietnam War era helicopter landing pads. These fences were easily penetrated but were erected in areas that naturally had a lot of influx from Mexico. They really never shut down the border but acted as a speed bump only.  Other sections only had gates across roadways that could be walked around by people on foot. The approach now is not to make the wall so tall, so thick and so difficult to get over or under that no illegal aliens can possibly get into the U.S. The new wall slows people down to the extent that after our sensors and cameras pick them up they can be caught. People can argue all they want about whether or not we are replacing wall or building new wall. At this point, what difference does it make?

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This will be appealed. The military defends the border, hence ...
 

Appeals court rules Trump administration lacked authority to shift military money to wall

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds.
 

A federal appeals court on Friday ruled that the Trump administration acted unlawfully when it transferred $2.5 billion in military construction projects to build parts of the wall at the southern border -- a blow to the administration’s efforts to fulfill President Trump’s signature 2016 campaign promise.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds. It ruled on a suit brought by a coalition of border states including California and environmental groups.


Why do I think it had more to do with  this? <_<
 

The court also ruled that the government was not in compliance with environmental regulations, and was therefore harming those who visit the region for nature-related activities including bird-watching and would also disturb wildlife.
 

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This will be appealed. The military defends the border, hence ...
 

Appeals court rules Trump administration lacked authority to shift military money to wall

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds.
 

A federal appeals court on Friday ruled that the Trump administration acted unlawfully when it transferred $2.5 billion in military construction projects to build parts of the wall at the southern border -- a blow to the administration’s efforts to fulfill President Trump’s signature 2016 campaign promise.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds. It ruled on a suit brought by a coalition of border states including California and environmental groups.


Why do I think it had more to do with  this? <_<
 

The court also ruled that the government was not in compliance with environmental regulations, and was therefore harming those who visit the region for nature-related activities including bird-watching and would also disturb wildlife.
 

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It is a standard ruling from the 9th Circuit: A place where they have only a passing acquaintance with the Constitution...

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36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

This will be appealed. The military defends the border, hence ...
 

Appeals court rules Trump administration lacked authority to shift military money to wall

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds.
 

A federal appeals court on Friday ruled that the Trump administration acted unlawfully when it transferred $2.5 billion in military construction projects to build parts of the wall at the southern border -- a blow to the administration’s efforts to fulfill President Trump’s signature 2016 campaign promise.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that the administration illegally went around Congress in reappropriating the funds. It ruled on a suit brought by a coalition of border states including California and environmental groups.


Why do I think it had more to do with  this? <_<
 

The court also ruled that the government was not in compliance with environmental regulations, and was therefore harming those who visit the region for nature-related activities including bird-watching and would also disturb wildlife.
 

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See the source imageSeems like mixed messages.

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