BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, El Guapo said: No, but he’s having Double Vision. Man, that was Cold as Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Stafford is 6 games under .500 for his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 50 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I agree completely. There needs to be a balance. Look at the Dolphins. If I’m not mistaken, their two highest contracts are Suh and Tannehill. Even if both were healthy all season, they would have likely missed the playoffs as well. Don't tell SaviorPeterman that, they have a colossal amount of talent, and the next Bill Belichick at HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, jr1 said: Stafford is 6 games under .500 for his career Imagine how many games Detroit would be under .500 over the last 10 years if they hadn't had Stafford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rigotz said: This is a dumb argument. Packers went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst when Rogers got hurt. Colts went from best team in the league to first overall pick when Peyton Manning got hurt. A great QB can win you Super Bowls and playoffs for DECADES. Are there exceptions? Sure. Carr had a bad year and Stanford has never been Elite. Do I want to swing for the fences and hope to lock in the single most important position on the field for decades? Of course I do. If you’re not thinking that way, you are dumb. Period. You will find a direct correlation with the Tyrod faithful & those who think that way. I've already counted a few obvious ones so far. They are now going to pretend franchise QB's aren't the most important thing in the sport, and that mediocrity at the position is fine because "look at some of these far superior players who also didn't make the playoffs every year!" Edited December 28, 2017 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Only because the pats pay Brady under the table 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I look at it this way. If Cousins was our quarterback this year would we have clinched a playoff seed by now? I would answer yes and that alone is enough for me to say sign Cousins. Then do your work by drafting well and finding low price free agent fits that fit your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 If Bills can solidify their special teams, I think we have a good shot with any QB next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, KW95 said: If Bills can solidify their special teams, I think we have a good shot with any QB next year They need to scout one of those longsnappers who can put the ball in a trashcan from 75yds away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Derek Carr's numbers look a lot better than he played this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Rigotz said: This is a dumb argument. Packers went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst when Rogers got hurt. Colts went from best team in the league to first overall pick when Peyton Manning got hurt. A great QB can win you Super Bowls and playoffs for DECADES. Are there exceptions? Sure. Carr had a bad year and Stanford has never been Elite. Do I want to swing for the fences and hope to lock in the single most important position on the field for decades? Of course I do. If you’re not thinking that way, you are dumb. Period. ^^^^This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 hours ago, BigDingus said: You will find a direct correlation with the Tyrod faithful & those who think that way. I've already counted a few obvious ones so far. They are now going to pretend franchise QB's aren't the most important thing in the sport, and that mediocrity at the position is fine because "look at some of these far superior players who also didn't make the playoffs every year!" Yup. The OP is just offering the same fallacious reasoning we’ve seen before: Look! There are teams with highly paid/franchise QBs that aren’t in the playoff! Ergo it isn’t important to have one. Obviously that’s stupid. What they miss is the massive importance of having a FQB where winning a SB is the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 hours ago, BigDingus said: You will find a direct correlation with the Tyrod faithful & those who think that way. I've already counted a few obvious ones so far. They are now going to pretend franchise QB's aren't the most important thing in the sport, and that mediocrity at the position is fine because "look at some of these far superior players who also didn't make the playoffs every year!" Exactly, these same want nothing more then to have this team continue to swing for late round QBs while riding the not good enough Tyrod to a forever 8-8 not good enough. Sure get Tyrod a RB like McCoy WR like Watkins and boom playoffs, SMH. Tyrod faithful want you to believe this team needs way too much so build the rest first then find a QB, sounds like the last 17 years of fail. You would think OBD would know it all starts with the QB, once we got HOF QB Kelly things got better and better as the pieces were added to compliment his play. You build around the QB not build then add a QB. QBS need some grooming time so you need to get one to start playing and learning while said QB finds who they like to play with. A lower talent linemen, WR many times play bigger because said QB can push them to be bigger then they are. Look what Brady has done with less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Gugny said: ^^ Has an excellent grasp on the English language. Dude's name is "foreigner" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Rigotz said: This is a dumb argument. Packers went from one of the best teams in the league to one of the worst when Rogers got hurt. Colts went from best team in the league to first overall pick when Peyton Manning got hurt. A great QB can win you Super Bowls and playoffs for DECADES. Are there exceptions? Sure. Carr had a bad year and Stanford has never been Elite. Do I want to swing for the fences and hope to lock in the single most important position on the field for decades? Of course I do. If you’re not thinking that way, you are dumb. Period. This^^^ Add to it the Colts were maybe a fringe playoff team with Luck and absolute trash without him this year Lookie what an uptick San Francisco has had with the addition of Jimmy G. QB is the straw that stirs the drink, good QB makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Despite what people think, you still need to build a team behind a QB to be successful, you don't simply shuffle your fingers until you get an Aaron Rodgers then just put your feet up and watch the Superbowls come rolling in every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Okay? Sure. I think we all know it's a team game. Thought that was common knowledge. As a part of that, an improvement at the QB position is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, PeterGriffin said: Add to it the Colts were maybe a fringe playoff team with Luck and absolute trash without him this year Playing in the AFC championship game is a "fringe playoff team"? Sounds more like the 3rd or 4th best team in the league to me. 3 hours ago, Woodman19 said: Despite what people think, you still need to build a team behind a QB to be successful, you don't simply shuffle your fingers until you get an Aaron Rodgers then just put your feet up and watch the Superbowls come rolling in every year. Amen. This opinion is silly, but prevelant around here imagine IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Is the OP saying they would not want Derek Carr or Matthew Stafford on the Bills. Although this is a qb driven league both of these guys cannot win the game on their own it still requires some semblance of defense and special teams. Derek Carr was hurt allot this year. Stafford hasn't had the greatest year. I personally wouldn't want the Bills to pay these guys that much but both teams will rebound with some better supporting personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 20 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Not sure of the salary, but Phillip Rivers and Joe Flacco hopefully will be joining them Sunday. Add Marcus Mariota (maybe) and Jameis "Crab Legs" Winston to the franchise QBs sitting out the playoffs. Russell Wilson may be too. Add Suck for Luck and Watson and Rodgers due to injury. Trbisky. Meanwhile Alex Smith and Case Keenum are in. I thought if you had a franchise QB you were set? I'm confused. Depends what your definition of a franchise QB is. Does your QB realistically give you a chance to win and make the playoffs? Can he actually make throws and take a chance when it’s needed most? Has said QBs made the playoffs in prior years? What one team values as a franchise QB another one doesn’t. Do I think Stanford is a QB worth his money? No,but Detroit does. There are really only a handful of true future HOF QBs in the league and those guys are in the playoffs every year and win SBs. Whats your point? You can win without breaking the bank? Sure can,but a QB who can play gives you a much better opportunity to get to the promised land,which is the whole purpose of playing. We don’t have a QB who gives us a chance and it’s time we take a chance to find one,regardless of money. I defer to Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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