DrDawkinstein Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think somewhere on a scale between Johnny Manziel and Russell Wilson is probably about right. He is more accurate and better in the pocket than Manziel ever was. While Mayfield does play some backyard football at times Johnny Football lived and died by it as a college QB. He isn't as polished as Wilson, he doesn't have the high character of Wilson but he does have the competitiveness and the production and the arm. He also has the same clutch gene that DeShaun Watson has. The bigger the stakes... the better he seems to play. Right on, agreed. Although I hate using a Manziel comparison on anyone, it's a bit too mean and insulting, haha. That's why I mention Losman. As to the bold... Yeah Man! I was luke-warm on Watson last year until his playoff and Championship performance. Then I was sold on the kid as a clutch winner. And I'm in the exact same spot with Mayfield. I didnt like him at all when the season started. He's managed to win me over a bit but I still have some doubts... But if he pulls off some impressive play in the playoffs and wins OK a title, then Im in! Looking very forward to the games on Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Right on, agreed. Although I hate using a Manziel comparison on anyone, it's a bit too mean and insulting, haha. That's why I mention Losman. Believe me I was the biggest Manziel hater going. Never thought he would translate had a 4th round grade on him and said on this forum that if I was a GM I'd take him off my board just on what we knew about his character at the time (which was not half as much as later became apparent). I don't mean to insult Mayfield with that comparison. I think Mayfield can play Quarterback and Johnny couldn't but there are bits of Baker's college tape where you just go "man that is a play I saw Manziel make". There is a wide spectrum between Manziel and Wilson and Mayfield is clearly closer to the Wilson end but he is not Russell Wilson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 8 hours ago, nero1 said: I like Rudolph, but I wouldn't discount Mayfield either. The popular boys scare me as west coast QB's. there is always a lot of hype that doesn't come to fruition. Stay where we end up and draft one of these two. They are hungrier I believe. Thats why I like Mayfield he has a chip on his shoulder. Nothings been handed to him.......... he had to fight for it as a walk on. He reminds me of a certain #12....not his style of play.......... just his swagger and the I can beat anyone or anything attitude. He will be gone by the time the Bills pick though. I really billieve that Brandon Beane will get this right(find the best QB) one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 hours ago, PIZ said: How many teams are looking for a QB? How many 1st round QB are expected? Where would you project them? I am worried the team below the Bills will trade up, and the Bills will be left going Lamar Jackson (don't want him) or second tier like Drew Lock: 1. Darnold - Cleveland. 2. Rosen - NYG. 3. Mayfield - Jets. 4. Allen - Broncos. 5. Bengals? 6. Rudolph - Bills (if 1 - 4 happen, then I hope Rudolph is available). 7. Jacksonville? Are they really satisfied with Bortles? 8. Saints? Brees is not getting any younger. 9. Steelers? Rudolph would be a good fit, and I couldn't handle them trading up in front of the Bills again to get a QB. 10. New England? They don't have Jimmy G waiting in the wings anymore. 11. Miami - also read somewhere that Miami may be looking to upgrade at QB. Thanks PIZ for doing this. I would even say the Cards could be in the mix. That would be assuming 49ers, Vikings and Redskins gobble up the 3 FA QBs. For us to move up from 2 - 20+ 1st round picks all the way up to the top 2 QBs will cost us 3 - 1sts and a couple of 2's if a team was willing to trade with us at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I do not want to trade up for a QB. Pick one you like in our spot, fine...but don't give away the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I want the ball graber. Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Darnold looks horrible tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Thanks PIZ for doing this. I would even say the Cards could be in the mix. That would be assuming 49ers, Vikings and Redskins gobble up the 3 FA QBs. For us to move up from 2 - 20+ 1st round picks all the way up to the top 2 QBs will cost us 3 - 1sts and a couple of 2's if a team was willing to trade with us at all. Thanks ColoradoBills. Forgot about Arizona. I edited my post. I also added this.... In my opinion, if the Bills number 1 goal is to get a top QB from this draft, then they are trading up. If you want a QB, and don't pick in the top 10, you have to trade up. You can't stand pat. In previous drafts, how many QBs were taken in the first round by a team that did not trade up? Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes, Wentz, Goff, Roethlisberger, .... I'm sure there are more. I think they go all in to get their QB in the draft and use FA to fill Dline and Oline gaps. Theyll hopefully still have aa 2nd for a LB. Edited December 30, 2017 by PIZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Rough watching Darnold so far. He does look like he needs another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Success said: Rough watching Darnold so far. He does look like he needs another year. Wish he played like this in last year's Rose Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 You have to tuck that ball away..wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 he should have entered the concussion protocol this week. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sam Darnold looks like Buzz from Home Alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Only watched about 4 of his games and none have been impressive but can't say I've seen enough to call myself informed- certainly ugly tonight- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, davspo said: Only watched about 4 of his games and none have been impressive but can't say I've seen enough to call myself informed- certainly ugly tonight- To be fair, so far in this game, his OL is not protecting him, they can’t run the ball and his WR have let him down a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Getting schooled by Barrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Success said: Rough watching Darnold so far. He does look like he needs another year. He’s only 20. I bet he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: I do not want to trade up for a QB. Pick one you like in our spot, fine...but don't give away the farm. Watching Darnold tonight is why you don't give away the farm. Heck draft the OSU center with that extra pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I think Rudolph goes in the 10-15 range. You watch, he'll take over for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Uncle Joe said: Watching Darnold tonight is why you don't give away the farm. Heck draft the OSU center with that extra pick. Billy Price is a 100% McDermott player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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