Billsfanatixs Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 According to the playoff machines. if the Bills finish out 1win 1 loss, we would be much better off if that loss from from New England. Like 70% chance if we Beat Miami vs. 46% chance if we beat New England. If we win out, 99% chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 The difference in probabilities is because at 9-7, a win against Miami gives the Bills the tiebreaker over Baltimore, but if the win comes against NE that gives the tiebreaker to the Ravens. (At 10-6 the Ravens also hold the tiebreaker) Ironically (luckily?) the two games against the Pats this year have less playoff implications for Buffalo than any other games since Week 10. But win or lose this Sunday it's unlikely the Bills get into the playoffs without a win against Miami next week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Can we go 8-8 and get into the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 We are going to beat New England 26-13. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we go 8-8 and get into the playoffs? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: We are going to beat New England 26-13. Ok, that is just an easy up vote you got from me....you up vote w****! go bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we go 8-8 and get into the playoffs? Nope, Titans would get in at 8-8 based on conference record (7-5 vs 6-6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus99 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we go 8-8 and get into the playoffs? Yes but the probability would be less than 1 % but not zero percent so another words NO Edited December 23, 2017 by Cygnus99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 LONGSHOT too much dependance on other teams help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: We are going to beat New England 26-13. No we aren't we are going to get beat like a drum just like we have in the 2nd meeting every year since God knows when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No we aren't we are going to get beat like a drum just like we have in the 2nd meeting every year since God knows when. ...2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No we aren't we are going to get beat like a drum just like we have in the 2nd meeting every year since God knows when. God says "Yep I know when.... December 28th, 2014.... you're welcome. Now go to church ya heathen!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: God says "Yep I know when.... December 28th, 2014.... you're welcome. Now go to church ya heathen!" In a game that actually mattered to them with their starters playing...let's preface that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: In a game that actually mattered to them with their starters playing...let's preface that statement Lol... they started their starters and we went in with a JV team. The "matter" part would be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: We are going to beat New England 26-13. No way we win by two scores...because if we were ever fortunate to get a lead in this game Dennison and the offense would go into conservative mode until the other team was able to comeback and win. Plus, Brady happens to play better when he’s losing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Cygnus99 said: Yes but the probability would be less than 1 % but not zero percent so another words NO Interested to know the scenario where they go 8-8 and make it in. Would it have to be a 4-way 8-8 tie with the Ravens, Titans and Chargers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Lol... they started their starters and we went in with a JV team. The "matter" part would be correct No they didnt. No Gronk or Edelman both tackles. A lot of guys sat that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Make it simple. Root for the Jets to beat the Chargers. Then all we need is a win over Miami and the Jags to beat the Titans. (Rams/Titans and all Ravens games become moot.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we go 8-8 and get into the playoffs? Yes. Ravens lose last two Chargers lose last two Dolphins lose to KC 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Make it simple. Root for the Jets to beat the Chargers. Then all we need is a win over Miami and the Jags to beat the Titans. (Rams/Titans and all Ravens games become moot.) Same thing happens if the Titans beat the Rams. Beat Miami and Jags beat Titans and Bills are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Bills get in at 8-8 if: Titans lose 2 (Everyone thinks this will happen) Chargers lose 1 (Everyone thinks this is somewhat possible bordering on unlikely) Ravens lose 2 (No one thinks this will happen) Edit: plus Dolphins lose to the Chiefs Even if the Chargers win one, the Bills get in on the 4 way 8-8 tie across 2 wildcards. http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/wins/results/400951748~1~400951739~2~400951791~2~400951596~2~400951642~2 Edited December 23, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Chris66 said: No they didnt. No Gronk or Edelman both tackles. A lot of guys sat that day Did Brady start? .... cause he is the only one who matters. And just checked Nate Soldier played. Who are the 2 tackles you are referring to. Amendola played. Blount played. Vareen played. Most of their entire defense played. So yeah most of their starters started. And here ya go... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201412280nwe.htm#all_vis_snap_counts Edited December 23, 2017 by aceman_16 tossed in link for future accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Billsfanatixs said: According to the playoff machines. if the Bills finish out 1win 1 loss, we would be much better off if that loss from from New England. Like 70% chance if we Beat Miami vs. 46% chance if we beat New England. If we win out, 99% chance I'm rooting for the win-out 99% option. If we beat the Pats tomorrow (a gigantic "if," I know), I think it puts us on a different course. Goliath has been defeated, long live David! A win in Foxboro would elevate the players' confidence in themselves, in the coaching staff, and in the "process." It would therefore, I think, improve the odds of winning the Miami game and launching us into the playoffs. And I say that knowing full well that Miami's victory over the Pats didn't help them at all in their next game. Different team, different circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, aceman_16 said: Lol... they started their starters and we went in with a JV team. The "matter" part would be correct There was no Gronk, no Amendola, no Edelman, and a few defensive players that didn't play...but yeah lets pretend they all did. And Brady played a few series and then left. Revisionist history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Cygnus99 said: Yes but the probability would be less than 1 % but not zero percent so another words NO Thanks. Hate to be a grammar nazi but it's "in other words, not another words" if this was autocorrect I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, matter2003 said: There was no Gronk, no Amendola, no Edelman, and a few defensive players that didn't play...but yeah lets pretend they all did. And Brady played a few series and then left. Revisionist history. Actually... you are revising history. I posted an actual game stats link earlier. In case you missed it here is the link https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201412280nwe.htm#all_vis_snap_counts As you can see... pretty much their entire defense started. However, for those too lazy to check their facts here is a fun copy paste from there: Patriots Starters Player Pos Tom Brady QB (48% of the snaps) Brandon Bolden RB ** Danny Amendola WR ** oops howd he get on there... you swore he didnt play! and 81% of snaps to boot! Brandon LaFell WR Brian Tyms WR Michael Hoomanawanui TE Nate Solder LT Josh Kline LG Bryan Stork C Ryan Wendell RG Marcus Cannon RT Chandler Jones RE Rob Ninkovich LDE Alan Branch DT Vince Wilfork DT Sealver Siliga DT Jamie Collins LB Jonathan Casillas LB Darrelle Revis LCB Logan Ryan RCB Devin McCourty S Patrick Chung S Anyhow, carry on! Edited December 23, 2017 by aceman_16 added snarky commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus99 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Thanks. Hate to be a grammar nazi but it's "in other words, not another words" if this was autocorrect I apologize. It is OK my grammar / spelling is not the greatest but thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) Oh yeah...additional information: our starters versus theirs (before they subbed out some players) were leading 17 to 6 at half time. But change facts to fit your narrative if you must. Edited December 23, 2017 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 How do we go 10-6 and not make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: How do we go 10-6 and not make it? I think if Tennessee and Baltimore both finish 10-6 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Did Brady start? .... cause he is the only one who matters. And just checked Nate Soldier played. Who are the 2 tackles you are referring to. Amendola played. Blount played. Vareen played. Most of their entire defense played. So yeah most of their starters started. And here ya go... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201412280nwe.htm#all_vis_snap_counts Lookat the snap count my friend in the link you provided. There are a lot of 0 in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) lol the starting Offense oddly had 0 (zero) defensive snap counts and vice-versa! Ex: Tom Brady QB 32 snaps 48% of the total offensive plays Tom Brady QB Defensive plays 0 0% Tom Brady QB Special Team plays 0 0% Edited December 23, 2017 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Belichick wanted to use Brady as part of the wedge on punt returns, but he chickened out at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: lol the starting Offense oddly had 0 (zero) defensive snap counts and vice-versa! Ex: Tom Brady QB 32 snaps 48% of the total offensive plays Tom Brady QB Defensive plays 0 0% Tom Brady QB Special Team plays 0 0% You must be on the mobile app Ot confused me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, Chris66 said: You must be on the mobile app Ot confused me too. For the record.. I am NOT saying that win mattered. I just wanted to show people that the Pats* had most of their entire team play the first half sans 2 players. I also wanted to point out that the Bills were winning before they were pulled out. I am not twisting that IF the Pats* wanted to win or they kept the starters in that they would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said: I think if Tennessee and Baltimore both finish 10-6 too Tennessee, Baltimore, Jacksonville and Buffalo at 10-6. Titans win the AFC South, Jaguars #5, Ravens #6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm just sad we're not having a 7-9 season. We've gotten so used to them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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