Freddie's Dead Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Yeah, we're 8-6 and in the playoffs. We may snap the drought. But it's hard watching McD make the same mistakes game after game. That TO before the 3rd down in the 4th QTR nearly cost us the game. It saved Miami at least 40 seconds, which allowed them the onside kick and recovery. I know we won, but I'm worried that one of these mistakes will cost us, like in the playoffs. Why can't we ever get a coach with game and clock management skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 You literally can NOT say that. You can't predict how the clock would have played out after that sans a timeout. Dude, come on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I can see why that was called. It looks worse in hindsight, but when your team execution is horrendous, it's hard to blame the coach. The second they snapped the ball, 2 men were 3 yards into the backfield right in front of McCoy...our O-line was trash in the run game all day, so McDermott probably wanted to call a designed play & give them time to talk it over to ensure there weren't any stupid mistakes. But nope, still were stupid mistakes. I mean 4th & goal at the 1 yard line, and Groy gets added as a 6th linemen only to get a false start? Then Mills gets a personal foul called on him on top of it? Seriously, the discipline of this line is atrocious. You have yard to go to get a TD and put away the game, instead you get 2 offensive penalties that stack & get the kicking team sent out on the field And that doesn't even include the blown up run plays that got us to 4th down in the first place. Looking back earlier, we had Ducasse get beat by a freaking corner leading to a sack! He just tapped the guy, then got burnt, getting Tyrod blown up... Thankfully they were MOSTLY good on pass protection other than a few stupid sacks like that. Tyrod usually had a lot of time to throw, he just started playing it safe again once the 2nd half came around. 5 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You literally can NOT say that. You can't predict how the clock would have played out after that sans a timeout. Dude, come on. 100% right. Don't see anything wrong with the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I honestly don't remember that play at all. i must have drank more than I thought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Yeah, we're 8-6 and in the playoffs. We may snap the drought. But it's hard watching McD make the same mistakes game after game. That TO before the 3rd down in the 4th QTR nearly cost us the game. It saved Miami at least 40 seconds, which allowed them the onside kick and recovery. I know we won, but I'm worried that one of these mistakes will cost us, like in the playoffs. Why can't we ever get a coach with game and clock management skills? Bolded alone is all you need to forget the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 All i know is that when it's 4th and 7 and you're in FG range, you take the points. Take the friggin points!!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Sweats said: All i know is that when it's 4th and 7 and you're in FG range, you take the points. Take the friggin points!!!!!! Even when you're 4th and 1 in FG range YOU TAKE THE POINTS. But don't tell domdab99 that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I can see why that was called. It looks worse in hindsight, but when your team execution is horrendous, it's hard to blame the coach. The second they snapped the ball, 2 men were 3 yards into the backfield right in front of McCoy...our O-line was trash in the run game all day, so McDermott probably wanted to call a designed play & give them time to talk it over to ensure there weren't any stupid mistakes. But nope, still were stupid mistakes. I mean 4th & goal at the 1 yard line, and Groy gets added as a 6th linemen only to get a false start? Then Mills gets a personal foul called on him on top of it? Seriously, the discipline of this line is atrocious. You have yard to go to get a TD and put away the game, instead you get 2 offensive penalties that stack & get the kicking team sent out on the field And that doesn't even include the blown up run plays that got us to 4th down in the first place. Looking back earlier, we had Ducasse get beat by a freaking corner leading to a sack! He just tapped the guy, then got burnt, getting Tyrod blown up... Thankfully they were MOSTLY good on pass protection other than a few stupid sacks like that. Tyrod usually had a lot of time to throw, he just started playing it safe again once the 2nd half came around. 100% right. Don't see anything wrong with the call. Groy’s false start saved the game, btw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Even when you're 4th and 1 in FG range YOU TAKE THE POINTS. But don't tell domdab99 that. Sometimes he seems more spooked by the weather than opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have no problem with it. I don't think any of his mistakes have been that bad. And, btw, lots of coaches make mistakes. Even Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sweats said: All i know is that when it's 4th and 7 and you're in FG range, you take the points. Take the friggin points!!!!!! Yep. Especially when you have a kicker whose made 15 straight from 50 yards plus. Oh well, I really cant get too upset though after a win against the Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 how about the QB hiking the ball consistently with 10 seconds left on the play clock during the whole 4rth quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, KW95 said: how about the QB hiking the ball consistently with 10 seconds left on the play clock during the whole 4rth quarter I'm sure that's the coaches' fault somehow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Bolded alone is all you need to forget the rest. Well, so far it hasn’t come back to bite him, which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, KW95 said: how about the QB hiking the ball consistently with 10 seconds left on the play clock during the whole 4rth quarter Don't worry Cutler helped him out by hiking with 1 second to go in the entire game, even down by 3 scores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Even when you're 4th and 1 in FG range YOU TAKE THE POINTS. But don't tell domdab99 that. I think a punt there would have also been acceptable. The going for it didn't make much sense. Tyrod if he was smarter would have put the ball where Clay could make a play - because an interception doesn't necessarily hurt you there either. Unless it's of course returned further than the original LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 This has nothing to do with the topic but all I can say is thank goodness this is Preston Brown last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, GG said: Groy’s false start saved the game, btw. It saved points. Not sure it would have mattered in the outcome. 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: I think a punt there would have also been acceptable. The going for it didn't make much sense. Tyrod if he was smarter would have put the ball where Clay could make a play - because an interception doesn't necessarily hurt you there either. Unless it's of course returned further than the original LOS. Why got for a low-percentage long pass in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Doc said: It saved points. Not sure it would have mattered in the outcome. Dolphins would have been 2 scores down instead of 3 at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bigantall said: This has nothing to do with the topic but all I can say is thank goodness this is Preston Brown last year The last of the Stank will be gone soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, KW95 said: The last of the Stank will be gone soon! Word. The Whaley purge is the BEST part about this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, GG said: Dolphins would have been 2 scores down instead of 3 at that point They would have been down 15. They ended up getting just 10 of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Yeah, we're 8-6 and in the playoffs. We may snap the drought. But it's hard watching McD make the same mistakes game after game. That TO before the 3rd down in the 4th QTR nearly cost us the game. It saved Miami at least 40 seconds, which allowed them the onside kick and recovery. I know we won, but I'm worried that one of these mistakes will cost us, like in the playoffs. Why can't we ever get a coach with game and clock management skills? Yea, after 17 years hate to make the playoffs with a coach that messed up a few timeouts. Pegs should definitely clean house after this season. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Overreaction .. I care more about him having the team ready to play on both sides of the ball... Kudos to the staff, After Taylor's rushing TD, the game never felt like it was in jeopardy.. Big win all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Yea, after 17 years hate to make the playoffs with a coach that messed up a few timeouts. Pegs should definitely clean house after this season. this guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I'm sure that's the coaches' fault somehow. The first time they snapped it with lots of time remaining it may not be his fault but it's his responsibility to make sure to tell TT to drain the clock. He is the head coach and clock management is his responsibility. TT for sure should have known better, I'm not excusing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, GG said: Groy’s false start saved the game, btw. I said that to my son- they had us stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I said that to my son- they had us stuffed. That was a terrible play call on fourth down at the two, too. Another reason Groy's mistake bailed us out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: That was a terrible play call on fourth down at the two, too. Another reason Groy's mistake bailed us out. It's true. Thank the lord groy is incompetent or that would have been a big play for Miami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: It's true. Thank the lord groy is incompetent or that would have been a big play for Miami I'm just astonished by the same people who criticized the punt here criticizing that call in this game. It's hypocrisy at its finest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I couldn't see the false start on replay. But what pissed me off more was Mills getting a penalty pushing a Dols player and a Dols player pushing him back and nothing. Thankfully Hausch made it moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: It's true. Thank the lord groy is incompetent or that would have been a big play for Miami I dunno. He played great last year. He hasn't played hardly at all this year. He played one total play last week against the Colts and it was the game winning TD by Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Yea, after 17 years hate to make the playoffs with a coach that messed up a few timeouts. Pegs should definitely clean house after this season. I ragged on Maroon for the same thing, so at least I'm consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: I'm just astonished by the same people who criticized the punt here criticizing that call in this game. It's hypocrisy at its finest. I criticized the punt but I also would have taken the 3 points there. Game awareness because it makes it a 3 score game in the 2nd half. Where i don't criticize mcd was going for it on 4th and 7 from the 35. They didn't get it but i think it was the right call because they were in no mans land 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: I dunno. He played great last year. He hasn't played hardly at all this year. He played one total play last week against the Colts and it was the game winning TD by Shady. Lol I know, just making a joke. I have nothing against the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: I'm just astonished by the same people who criticized the punt here criticizing that call in this game. It's hypocrisy at its finest. That's just stupid. It's a totally different call. They should have gone for the FG this time for sure. It's obvious. Hauschka has a great leg. He's hit 12 of the last 13 over 50. We need the 3 points. It's fourth and 7. You're a total moron if you think that is the same call. It's embarrassing Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Yeah, we're 8-6 and in the playoffs. We may snap the drought. But it's hard watching McD make the same mistakes game after game. That TO before the 3rd down in the 4th QTR nearly cost us the game. It saved Miami at least 40 seconds, which allowed them the onside kick and recovery. I know we won, but I'm worried that one of these mistakes will cost us, like in the playoffs. Why can't we ever get a coach with game and clock management skills? not recovering the onside kick nearly cost us the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, nucci said: not recovering the onside kick nearly cost us the game Not being able to stop a nosebleed almost cost us the game. If not for Cutler gifting us some turnovers, the defense was giving up plays all 2nd half. If it was 3rd & 20, you just knew they'd make it. 4th & 14? Easy stop for anyone but the Bills. It was maddening out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That's just stupid. It's a totally different call. They should have gone for the FG this time for sure. It's obvious. Hauschka has a great leg. He's hit 12 of the last 13 over 50. We need the 3 points. It's fourth and 7. You're a total moron if you think that is the same call. It's embarrassing Joe. You must not have been in the gameday thread. I wanted a FG on 4th and 1 from the 1. Because you ALWAYS take the points. 100% of the time. Also thought a punt was the right call on the long attempt to Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, BigDingus said: Not being able to stop a nosebleed almost cost us the game. If not for Cutler gifting us some turnovers, the defense was giving up plays all 2nd half. If it was 3rd & 20, you just knew they'd make it. 4th & 14? Easy stop for anyone but the Bills. It was maddening out there. So it wasn't just one thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That was a terrible play call on fourth down at the two, too. Another reason Groy's mistake bailed us out. Really bad- Dennison does some ridiculous stuff throughout the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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