Ittakestime Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Which is why he was passed up SIX TIMES by EVERY TEAM in the league, including the one that drafted him. That's what I was getting at. Brady improved which is opposite of what the guy was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: What happened? Wats the reference here? Charlie Campbell, who's pretty well connected, reported that Josh Rosen was declaring for the draft in December. Rosen basically got pissed that he reported it before Rosen had had a chance to do it on his own terms. Campbell said something stupid along the lines of "I know my source is correct (and to be fair, everybody knew Rosen was declaring...it didn't even really need to be reported in the first place) and if it turns out that my source is NOT correct and you stay at UCLA, I'll pay you a month of my salary. If my source is correct and you do declare, you owe me a month of yours" or something childish like that. Walter, the main guy at WalterFootball, is just a despicable person. Charlie is usually fine, and he's pretty well connected so I think his stuff is generally valuable to read, but he just came off as such a douche with the Rosen thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ittakestime Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: He won't be there at 21. The ones that might be there would be Mayfield (unlikely) and Lamar Jackson (I'm guessing a 50/50 thing). I think this year will end up going like 2012. Luck 1st, RG3 2nd, Tannehill 8th and Weeden 22nd. Darnold and Rosen one and two. Mayfield in top 10 and then I think Allen falls a little. Supposedly the talk is that the media likes Allen a lot more than the teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: I think this year will end up going like 2012. Luck 1st, RG3 2nd, Tannehill 8th and Weeden 22nd. Darnold and Rosen one and two. Mayfield in top 10 and then I think Allen falls a little. Supposedly the talk is that the media likes Allen a lot more than the teams do. As far as I know, that's just Ben Allbright, who's notorious for being wrong about damn near everything he reports. There's also been reports that Allen might go #1, that GMs think Allen has been by far the best QB at the Senior Bowl, etc. 36 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sounds like he and Baker have both been pretty amazing today from all the reports I've been reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, DCOrange said: As far as I know, that's just Ben Allbright, who's notorious for being wrong about damn near everything he reports. There's also been reports that Allen might go #1, that GMs think Allen has been by far the best QB at the Senior Bowl, etc. Sounds like he and Baker have both been pretty amazing today from all the reports I've been reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I watched the QB's in practice today on ESPN. What stood out to me: - Josh Allen has a superior arm. Everyone else looks like they are throwing change-ups vs his fast balls. It's a shame that he is so inaccurate and doesn't have good touch. He is so big and has such a strong arm that he really stands out and you are like wow. - Mayfield absolutely takes charge and controls the offense. He is the type of guy that you draft him and then all you hear about in training camp is how he is taking over and before you know it he is getting the starting reps and your veteran is now the backup. I predict that whatever team picks him, he will win the QB battle and if he doesn't start it will be because the coaches are holding him back on purpose. There's no way he goes through a training camp and doesn't come out as the starting QB of the team. - Both guys started out pretty slow with some really inaccurate passes but then turned it up a notch and delivered some good balls. You can tell the coaches really like Mayfield. He's either taking a rep or he's cheering on the guys that are or he's talking to the coaches. He's not standing around and waiting his turn like the other 30 or so guys that were on the field. - Luke Falk had some nice touch on some fades into the endzone but overall his arm looked pretty weak. - Josh Allen has so much potential that if he gets picked before Mayfield it's only because a coach thinks he can get it out of him. Mayfield is the better pro right now. And that's coming from someone who didn't think Mayfield would pan out. I wish we could get all of the top QB's on the field so we could watch them compete. Watching them at the combine throwing vs air isn't the same as watching them with the pads on in practice vs defenders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Isaiah Wynn and Darius Leonard in the second round please. Although Wynn came off with a minor shoulder injury, he's dominated this week. Has great versatility for a lineman. Leonard is fast and all over the field at linebacker. Mayock compared him to Telvin Smith. He was flying all over the field sideline to sideline. Both players are trending up and might not even make it to our picks in the second if so, I hope they are strongly considered. Edited January 25, 2018 by Buffalo30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Imo Mayfield has the potential to be the next Drew Brees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Imo Mayfield has the potential to be the next Drew Brees I was thinking Russell Wilson. I'm fine with either lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: I was thinking Russell Wilson. I'm fine with either lol He isn't good enough of an athlete to create like Wilson does but he's a much better pocket passer. Brees is the most accurate QB I've ever seen but if Baker can even come close to being as accurate he can be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is good to hear. As much as we like to take sides on which QB will be good or not, it’s preferable that as many can succeed as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Captain Murica said: I was thinking Russell Wilson. I'm fine with either lol Mayfield looks like a guy who should be a pretty good NFL QB. Hopefully we can trade up to get him. Bills Mafia would absolutely love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 16 hours ago, kdiggz said: I watched the QB's in practice today on ESPN. What stood out to me: - Josh Allen has a superior arm. Everyone else looks like they are throwing change-ups vs his fast balls. It's a shame that he is so inaccurate and doesn't have good touch. He is so big and has such a strong arm that he really stands out and you are like wow. - Mayfield absolutely takes charge and controls the offense. He is the type of guy that you draft him and then all you hear about in training camp is how he is taking over and before you know it he is getting the starting reps and your veteran is now the backup. I predict that whatever team picks him, he will win the QB battle and if he doesn't start it will be because the coaches are holding him back on purpose. There's no way he goes through a training camp and doesn't come out as the starting QB of the team. - Both guys started out pretty slow with some really inaccurate passes but then turned it up a notch and delivered some good balls. You can tell the coaches really like Mayfield. He's either taking a rep or he's cheering on the guys that are or he's talking to the coaches. He's not standing around and waiting his turn like the other 30 or so guys that were on the field. - Luke Falk had some nice touch on some fades into the endzone but overall his arm looked pretty weak. - Josh Allen has so much potential that if he gets picked before Mayfield it's only because a coach thinks he can get it out of him. Mayfield is the better pro right now. And that's coming from someone who didn't think Mayfield would pan out. I wish we could get all of the top QB's on the field so we could watch them compete. Watching them at the combine throwing vs air isn't the same as watching them with the pads on in practice vs defenders. Are you coming over to the dark side? I know you would still take Rosen over both of them, but it was kinda cool to see you talk up Mayfield a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Are you coming over to the dark side? I know you would still take Rosen over both of them, but it was kinda cool to see you talk up Mayfield a bit. after watching that practice and how he's all over the field being the general i don't think there's any way he doesn't win a starting job in the NFL. will he be successful? not sure yet but his arm looked strong enough and he has the "it factor." he wants it bad though and he will put in the work i think. so yes, I now think he is worth a 1st round pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Reeeeeally hope we trade to #3 with the Colts and get one of Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, kdiggz said: after watching that practice and how he's all over the field being the general i don't think there's any way he doesn't win a starting job in the NFL. will he be successful? not sure yet but his arm looked strong enough and he has the "it factor." he wants it bad though and he will put in the work i think. so yes, I now think he is worth a 1st round pick! Good deal! Thats the thing about these guys, you really are just making your best educated guess. Whatever happens he was still my favorite college player ever. Really enjoyed watching him play this year, and for those exact reasons you mentioned. If you want someone who loves football he is your guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Good deal! Thats the thing about these guys, you really are just making your best educated guess. Whatever happens he was still my favorite college player ever. Really enjoyed watching him play this year, and for those exact reasons you mentioned. If you want someone who loves football he is your guy. looking forward to watching the game. Allen is the superior talent but i don't think he will be able to put it all together. if Mayfield balls out then he could jump up the draft boards i think. Broncos have the best look at these guys and will probably take one of them so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1-26: Pro Football Weekly's Eric Edholm with Howard and Jeremy on the Senior Bowl (8:55) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Luke Falk is heading back to the West coast for Tyler Hilinski's funeral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: looking forward to watching the game. Allen is the superior talent but i don't think he will be able to put it all together. if Mayfield balls out then he could jump up the draft boards i think. Broncos have the best look at these guys and will probably take one of them so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out Been looking forward to the game for a bit now. Allen's arm is out of this world good, but I just dont see it with him. Watching his tape reminds me a lot of watching all the throws type film on players like Christian Hackenberg and Deshone Kizer. Again, you really never know. I think it would be best for the Bills if the Broncos and Jets get into the Kirk Cousins game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 TOP 6 OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SENIOR BOWL It proved to be an eye-opening week in Mobile. The senior class put some quality talent on display, but not everyone was at their best. Here’s a look at what stood out during the practice sessions at Ladd-Peebles Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Been looking forward to the game for a bit now. Allen's arm is out of this world good, but I just dont see it with him. Watching his tape reminds me a lot of watching all the throws type film on players like Christian Hackenberg and Deshone Kizer. Again, you really never know. I think it would be best for the Bills if the Broncos and Jets get into the Kirk Cousins game. I didn't realize Mayfield had left. He's not playing in the game. He's going back to Texas to be with his mom who is or was in the hospital. Falk left too to go to his teammate's funeral. So I guess it's Allen vs White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: Luke Falk is heading back to the West coast for Tyler Hilinski's funeral. A shame. Would have liked to have seen him in the game. We'll see him at the combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, kdiggz said: I didn't realize Mayfield had left. He's not playing in the game. He's going back to Texas to be with his mom who is or was in the hospital. Falk left too to go to his teammate's funeral. So I guess it's Allen vs White Jeez, hadnt read that today. Thats too bad. Hope is Mom is going to be ok. Id say he probably didnt have much to show though. He came in measured over six feet, which I think was the biggest question for him this week. On top of it by all accounts he had a pretty solid week of practice. Really nothing more for him to gain. I think he should be a top ten pick, but will be incredibly happy if he drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 That's probably good news for Allen. He will be far and way the best QB there now. With a big game he could still be the #1 pick. With a bad game he could just as easily drop out of the top 10. Needless to say this is a big game for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: That's probably good news for Allen. He will be far and way the best QB there now. With a big game he could still be the #1 pick. With a bad game he could just as easily drop out of the top 10. Needless to say this is a big game for him I doubt this game will impact his stock much, if at all. Most of the scouts aren't even there anymore. NFL teams generally pack up and leave after the final practice; they don't care about the actual game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I doubt this game will impact his stock much, if at all. Most of the scouts aren't even there anymore. NFL teams generally pack up and leave after the final practice; they don't care about the actual game. ^This. The real value for the talent evaluators is talking to prospects, observing their practices and drills, and seeing how quickly they assimilate new coaching and schemes. The game itself tells them little they don’t already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I doubt this game will impact his stock much, if at all. Most of the scouts aren't even there anymore. NFL teams generally pack up and leave after the final practice; they don't care about the actual game. 16 minutes ago, K-9 said: ^This. The real value for the talent evaluators is talking to prospects, observing their practices and drills, and seeing how quickly they assimilate new coaching and schemes. The game itself tells them little they don’t already know. So if Allen throws 5 int and completes 3 out of 20 passes it's not going to hurt his draft stock? How about if he goes 19 of 20 for 5 td's? Every little piece of the puzzle makes up the full story on these players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: So if Allen throws 5 int and completes 3 out of 20 passes it's not going to hurt his draft stock? How about if he goes 19 of 20 for 5 td's? Every little piece of the puzzle makes up the full story on these players Won’t move the needle much at all, especially compared to how he did in interviews during the week. The game is secondary to what occurs during the week. One reason team personnel go home after the last practices and player availability for interviews has past. I’m sure a segment of fans and media will be swayed, though. But that matters even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 5:05 PM, kdiggz said: I watched the QB's in practice today on ESPN. What stood out to me: - Josh Allen has a superior arm. Everyone else looks like they are throwing change-ups vs his fast balls. It's a shame that he is so inaccurate and doesn't have good touch. He is so big and has such a strong arm that he really stands out and you are like wow. - Mayfield absolutely takes charge and controls the offense. He is the type of guy that you draft him and then all you hear about in training camp is how he is taking over and before you know it he is getting the starting reps and your veteran is now the backup. I predict that whatever team picks him, he will win the QB battle and if he doesn't start it will be because the coaches are holding him back on purpose. There's no way he goes through a training camp and doesn't come out as the starting QB of the team. - Both guys started out pretty slow with some really inaccurate passes but then turned it up a notch and delivered some good balls. You can tell the coaches really like Mayfield. He's either taking a rep or he's cheering on the guys that are or he's talking to the coaches. He's not standing around and waiting his turn like the other 30 or so guys that were on the field. - Luke Falk had some nice touch on some fades into the endzone but overall his arm looked pretty weak. - Josh Allen has so much potential that if he gets picked before Mayfield it's only because a coach thinks he can get it out of him. Mayfield is the better pro right now. And that's coming from someone who didn't think Mayfield would pan out. I wish we could get all of the top QB's on the field so we could watch them compete. Watching them at the combine throwing vs air isn't the same as watching them with the pads on in practice vs defenders. I think Falk makes a great coach some day. On 1/25/2018 at 8:43 PM, JaCrispy said: Imo Mayfield has the potential to be the next Drew Brees Or better On 1/25/2018 at 9:39 PM, Buffalo716 said: He isn't good enough of an athlete to create like Wilson does but he's a much better pocket passer. Brees is the most accurate QB I've ever seen but if Baker can even come close to being as accurate he can be great I don't know, Baker is pretty shifty and makes a ton of throws on the run, I'd say he is just as good as Wilson in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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