Tyrod to start vs Chiefs

[Bangarang]

Last Sunday and Monday, Tyrod was the starter. Then on Tuesday he wasn’t. On Wednesday McD blabbed about winning now and in the future like he always does. Now he flip flopped back to Tyrod. Why even make the change in the first place? This guy is clueless.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The question was: if Peterman keeps playing (meaning right now), just what do you think you're evaluating and why are you evaluating it?

 

Instead of putting words in my mouth, can you explain?

Well technically you'd be evaluating Nathan Peterman. 

[keepthefaith]

I'm sure I'm in the vast minority here but I think coach McD is making good decisions.  Good decision to start Peterman after some very shaky play from Tyrod.  Good decision to get Peterman out of there after first half last week.  Good decision to put Tyrod back at the helm.....for now.

 

The Bills weren't winning that game last week with either QB.  They were outplayed by a better team of players.  The coaching staff more than ever now has Tyrod's attention after benching him and Peterman knows he's really got to go back to work.  That and the offensive line and defense have a lot to prove after some awful performances.  The entire team has a ton of motivation to play better this week. 

Edited November 22, 2017 by keepthefaith

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Well technically you'd be evaluating Nathan Peterman. 

I'd ask the same question for Nate now that I asked going into last year with Taylor's 'prove it' situation. Do we have the pieces in place around him to get a proper evaluation?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

55 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

Taylor's not the future.

Starting him does nothing to advance the cause of drafting a QB next draft.

 

 

OK, I think "advance the cause of drafting a QB next draft" means "lose games"

So your reason to think we should start Peterman is so we can lose more games?

 

Frankly, the way the D played vs Jets and N'Orleans, I think we have all the ability we need to lose games on that side of the ball, and Taylor might give us more opportunity to evaluate Dennison and the WR we brought in.

[zow2]

Is it OK for me to root for the Bills to win this week?  Seriously, some "fans" here are just poisoned into thinking losing is the best option to cure all ills.

 

Anyway,  can McD and his staff actually coach the team up this week please.  I'm losing faith in all of them.  Never have I seen what was a decent team get blown away 3 games in a row like this.  It's embarrassing.  This coach had better show something this week and get these players to perform.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I'd ask the same question for Nate now that I asked going into last year with Taylor's 'prove it' situation. Do we have the pieces in place around him to get a proper evaluation?

Obviously you'd like to have the Cowboys o line, Texans WRs and Leveon Bell but you have to make do with what you have. If you have to wait for the ideal conditions for a proper evaluation, you may be evaluating the wrong guy. A little adversity can be a good thing.

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

OK, I think "advance the cause of drafting a QB next draft" means "lose games"

So your reason to think we should start Peterman is so we can lose more games?

 

Frankly, the way the D played vs Jets and N'Orleans, I think we have all the ability we need to lose games on that side of the ball, and Taylor might give us more opportunity to evaluate Dennison and the WR we brought in.

Oh oh........  Making sense again.

 

If we do somehow get a top QB in the top half of the 1st round of the draft, wouldn't it too make sense to ease him in unless he is so impressive in camp and pre-season.  And no Peterman should not start in 2018........  

[Bill Murray]

LOL at this thread.  All the Peterman backers pointing to the OL being the problem and not giving him a chance but fail to recognize TT playing with the same OL was putting up historically low turnover #s. 

 

Someone even posted that throwing for 300 yards and a 1:1 TD INT ratio was better than throwing for < 200yds and a 4:1 ratio as if:

A) that makes any logical sense???

B) Peterman was capable of throwing for 300 yds and a 1/1 ratio???

C) Ignoring that in 2017 only 1 QB in the league is averaging more than 300 yds a game (Tom Brady) and only 12 QBs are averaging > 250yds a game

D) Ignoring that players who have averaged > 240yds and a 1:1 TD/INT ratio this season include Kirk Cousins (4-6), Philip Rivers (4-6), Jameis WInston (4-6), Derek Carr (4-6)

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Obviously you'd like to have the Cowboys o line, Texans WRs and Leveon Bell but you have to make do with what you have. If you have to wait for the ideal conditions for a proper evaluation, you may be evaluating the wrong guy. A little adversity can be a good thing.

I'm not suggesting waiting for ideal conditions, but until you have an OL that can actually hold their blocks long enough to execute a 3 step drop you might want to evaluate the QB in a controlled environment (assuming it's an option).

[cd1]

16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The question was: if Peterman keeps playing (meaning right now), just what do you think you're evaluating and why are you evaluating it?

 

Instead of putting words in my mouth, can you explain?

 

Well, for all intents and purposes, all we would really be seeing is just how bad the whole damn team STINKS.

 

Unfortunately, for Peterman, poor decisions made his debut in the NFL a nightmare to live down. Now he gets to sit the bench and relive that **** storm with no real way to work past it.

 

I really have lost all respect for the new coaching staff. 

[Santana]

5 minutes ago, Bill Murray said:

LOL at this thread.  All the Peterman backers pointing to the OL being the problem and not giving him a chance but fail to recognize TT playing with the same OL was putting up historically low turnover #s. 

 

Someone even posted that throwing for 300 yards and a 1:1 TD INT ratio was better than throwing for < 200yds and a 4:1 ratio as if:

A) that makes any logical sense???

B) Peterman was capable of throwing for 300 yds and a 1/1 ratio???

C) Ignoring that in 2017 only 1 QB in the league is averaging more than 300 yds a game (Tom Brady) and only 12 QBs are averaging > 250yds a game

D) Ignoring that players who have averaged > 240yds and a 1:1 TD/INT ratio this season include Kirk Cousins (4-6), Philip Rivers (4-6), Jameis WInston (4-6), Derek Carr (4-6)

Yeah I really hate the 300yd thing. It means absolutely nothing to me. Good point, about the league average in yards pretty much being around 250yds per game.

[John from Riverside]

The huge problem is that disaster of a OL coach.....Castillo should already be fired.

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I'm not suggesting waiting for ideal conditions, but until you have an OL that can actually hold their blocks long enough to execute a 3 step drop you might want to evaluate the QB in a controlled environment (assuming it's an option).

I'm honestly fine with throwing a guy in there behind our line. They're not great, at all, and they likely won't be for the foreseeable future, so you need to have a guy throwing who can deal with that.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Well he does give us the best chance to win, which fits with the win now  philosophy, but McD also knows tt isn't the future and so he hinders the development of win latter.

3 hours ago, PIZ said:

Tryrod needs to understand WHY he was benched, AND correct his game.  I hope he gets it.

 

Not going to get it, hasn't gotten it by now he never will.

Edited November 22, 2017 by Buffalo Barbarian

[YesPlayoffs]

2 hours ago, joesixpack said:

that's all im saying, they should be doing EVERYTHING this year to ensure they're in the to 5. top 8 at least.

 

 

FWIW, there are seven active quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl.  Only one of them (Eli) was drafted in the top 8.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

Playing to win THIS season is, was, and always will be the WRONG move.

 

But again, this is unsurprising. Coaching to keep the rabble happy.

 

 

Do you guys get in fights in south Jersey too, 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, NoPlayoffs said:

 

FWIW, there are seven active quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl.  Only one of them (Eli) was drafted in the top 8.

 

How many were first rounders?

 

And how many teams are looking at qbs this year?

 

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Do you guys get in fights in south Jersey too, 

 

nah, he's probably one of those tight-asses from cherry hill.

 

[Mat68]

With the way the run game has been playing imo if Buffalo's defense can make some stops and get a turnover the KC game will be a toss up.  There are starting to get the same big plays out of the running game.  They need to start taking advantage of them and scoring Tds.  if the team can make a stop and the offense can immediately drive down and score that will go a long way in curing the issues and confidence problem the team has right now.  

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

How many were first rounders?

And how many teams are looking at qbs this year?

Working from the top of my head, so forgive any inaccuracies.

Big Ben, Manning, Flacco, and Rodgers were 1st rounders

Brees was a 2nd Rounder

Wilson was a 3rd Rounder

and Brady is a