This is why Tyrod was benched

[Luka]

16 hours ago, NoSaint said:

We’ve had a lot of posters that think the only mistakes are the bad throws you make— but a good opportunity missed is also huge. It just goes by quietly unnoticed while the interception makes the highlight reels. 

 

Number 1 in the league in 3 and outs. Anyone paying attention has noticed. I think a lot of people here watch poor quality streams and listen to the radio. Anyone that's at the stadium is probably too drunk to even pay attention to the game. There's only a small segment of Bills fans that actually watch the games and understand what's happening.

 

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

He's dropping back and only looking at Clay because his field vision is poor. There have been countless examples of this since TT came here. 

 

I agree that Dennison's play calls and designs can be head scratchers at times, but on that particular play it was obvious that there were other options and TT just never scanned them while he was dropping back. That goes to pre-snap recognition as well. It is the QB's job to know where every receiver should be and where coverage is based on those pre and post snap reads. TT is just not very good at that much of the time. 

I don't disagree and that is what I have said over and over.  I see the Bills line up and admittedly wanted to see Watkins get passes and would be gobsmacked looking at opportunities at LOS and knowing that the playcall was either the other direction or a run (in a passing down).

 

That is why I've asked over and over what the heck is going on and who is responsible!!!

 

I can't believe you have 4 player go right and the QB looks and rolls left.  That has to be the play call imo.

[dave mcbride]

12 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, this year has been a revelation, in that we've seen rookies (Watson) far exceed Tyrod right from the get go, and we've also seen grizzled veteran presences (McCown) do the same. We've also seen a middling prospect - Brissett - perform at least as well as Tyrod. And a journeyman-in-waiting, Case Keenum, clearly outperform him. At some point any coach/GM has to think: could we really do worse by taking a flyer on someone else? What's there to lose? If Peterman isn't the guy, well, draft someone else, or bring in some McCown type. It's not like Tyrod is some ultra valuable commodity.

Josh McCown, who leads the NFL in fumbles with 9, has almost exactly the same stats as Taylor (although his team, which has better defensive talent than the Bills, has a losing record).  He has a 93.7 rating and Taylor has a 91.4 rating.  He has the same sack rate, but again, he leads the league in fumbles. 

[Teddy KGB]

15 minutes ago, mannc said:

Although I agree with the switch, on the grounds that something had to be done, it’s a little early for the TT detractors to be taking a victory lap.  I hope NP lights it up, but’s it’s entirely possible that his debut will make Bills fans think they did not have things so bad under Taylor.

 

Its all good, we won't long for the days of the 59 yard passer.         Time to give up on the Taylor project.   

[Boatdrinks]

16 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

How about the blame being the OC's?  The players running open but is not the primary target (or secondary).  That is the problem with the Bills there are players open but that isn't the play call.

 

Saw it with Watkins over and over.  Single coverage or DB 10 yards off and the play was him as a decoy.

 

Sure TT is somewhat to blame but playcalling is the primary culprit.

Well, no. There is a progression of reads and the QBs job is to read the defense and throw it to the open man. It doesn't matter who was what read in the progression. If you can't read the defense, a la Taylor this is what happens. 

20 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I don't disagree and that is what I have said over and over.  I see the Bills line up and admittedly wanted to see Watkins get passes and would be gobsmacked looking at opportunities at LOS and knowing that the playcall was either the other direction or a run (in a passing down).

 

That is why I've asked over and over what the heck is going on and who is responsible!!!

 

I can't believe you have 4 player go right and the QB looks and rolls left.  That has to be the play call imo.

Again , ridiculous. If Ben Roethlisberger sees Brown in one on one coverage on the outside, guess where he is going with the football?  This is completely on the QB. Yes, a rollout cuts the field in half, but reading the defense from the pocket and throwing to the open man is on the Quarterback. 

[Big Gun]

19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Josh McCown, who leads the NFL in fumbles with 9, has almost exactly the same stats as Taylor (although his team, which has better defensive talent than the Bills, has a losing record).  He has a 93.7 rating and Taylor has a 91.4 rating.  He has the same sack rate, but again, he leads the league in fumbles. 

Mccown has 17 TDs to TT 12. 

 

With much lesser weapons also.

[ChasBB]

Amazing this day and age, IDIOTS bring race into the discussion.  Obviously, these are folks who have not watched many Bills' games.  In my experience, the individual or individuals who are 1st to bring race into a conversation where race doesn't belong or apply - THAT individual IS the racist.  Liberal dolts w/o brains who just have to get their 2 cents in where it isn't needed.

Edited November 16, 2017 by ChasBB

[folz]

17 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

 

 

During the last six seasons, the Buffalo Bills have employed six black quaterbacks (T. Taylor, E.J. Manuel, C. Jones, T. Lewis, D. Dixon, T. Jackson). 

Over the last five years, a black quarterback has started for the Bills in 60 of 73 games.

 

Just sayin' 

Edited November 16, 2017 by folz

[QCity]

17 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

 

 

I honestly don't know who these people are or how they are connected to football. There are a lot of morons on social media that just want attention -- don't give it to them.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Yes .500 over two years was burning down the place.  Did they under-perform?  Yes....  Was it a disaster?  No......

 

The Defense was terrible and offensive playcalling suspect.

 

Keep drinking the new regimes kool-aid......

Wrex Ryan ruined this team.  I am sorry if you don't believe that. 

Doug Marrone finished 9-7 in 14.  Rex was supposed to improve the team.  He did not. 

[ChasBB]

9 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I honestly don't know who these people are or how they are connected to football. There are a lot of morons on social media that just want attention -- don't give it to them.

These morons are associated only with starting trouble where there is none.  They have no moral compass whatsoever and they sure as hell don't know much about football.  They argue for the sake of argument - they have no message.

[blacklabel]

I've followed Andy Benoit for quite a while and usually his film analysis is pretty good. It's no secret that Taylor is a "see it-throw it" QB, meaning he very rarely throws with anticipation or throws guys open. He needs to see for sure that his man is open and this results in him hanging onto the ball too long. But game after game, as pointed out throughout this thread, he's not seeing open guys downfield, or he is and he's just not taking the chance. That's going to frustrate your receivers because he's not even giving them a chance to make a play, and it's especially going to frustrate the coaches and front office who just went out and obtained a big target for him to throw to. But, by the same token, I'm sure Taylor feels frustrated as well because he's consistently being coached to take what the defense gives him. And on top of that, it's been said that McD puts almost an obnoxious amount of emphasis on not turning the ball over while on offense. So on one hand, Taylor's gotta be thinking, I need to give my guys a shot. And on the other, he hears the coaches in his head saying, "Be safe, don't turn it over, if it's not there, dump it off." But at a certain point coaches are just gonna have to let a QB cut it loose and live with the mistakes that come with it.  

[CodeMonkey]

18 hours ago, judman said:

I was a TT supporter. Then I went to the game against the Saints. 

 

18 hours ago, JPP said:

My condalences......at least you can say you were at the game when the streaker ran the field....

... and rushed for about 20 more yards than McCoy did.

[ColoradoBills]

16 hours ago, Romie said:

Idk I think Sean is wearing the pants in this relationship.  This make complete sense in finding your guy.  He floats and we've got our guy.  He sinks and we're drafting higher.  Taylor's ball placement is absolutely terrible couldn't watch any more of it.

 

It's as simple as this!

[DerekJ]

3 hours ago, folz said:

 

During the last six seasons, the Buffalo Bills have employed six black quaterbacks (T. Taylor, E.J. Manuel, C. Jones, T. Lewis, D. Dixon, T. Jackson). 

Over the last five years, a black quarterback has started for the Bills in 60 of 73 games.

 

Just sayin' 

Agreed.

[BananaB]

22 hours ago, Iraq Vet said:

This scream of ownership desperation... even though I was getting tired of TT.  It just does not feel like a coach decision.

 

How’d the past 3 years go hovering around .500 with ****ty QB play? Just curious.  

 

 

Edited November 16, 2017 by BananaB

[tonawandarock]

1 hour ago, BananaB said:

 

How’d the past 3 years go hovering around .500 with ****ty QB play? Just curious.  

 

 

exactly right.  tyrod has shown no progress under (3) different coordinators.   without the turnovers and 50 yrd FG we could easily have a worse record.  considering the way he has played to this point, does anybody believe that the bills should keep TT next year if he leads us to the playoffs and goes one and done(the last two games show this team is not for real IMHO)?   the coaching staff needs to see if NP can play-if he plays well we may make the playoffs anyway and maybe look forward to a bright future.  if not then we get a higher draft pick and try again...

[YoloinOhio]

 

[GreggTX]

The Bills have a huge decision to make soon regarding the most important position in sports. I think they're going to give Peterman a chance to open things up a bit and see if he can handle it. Also, the Bills don't neccesarily have to trade up into the top 3 to get a QB they like if Peterman plays well. If nothing else, this coming offseason looks to be very interesting.

[moshermw]

Agree in the most part, Hence, scapegoat.

 

Was not an aggressive inquiry, per se, but didn't answer the intended question. 

 

Nothing as drastic as a benching occurred at any D starter position - as far as I know.

 

This is insanity,