Wayne Arnold Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 hours ago, billsfan11 said: I was talking about Derek Anderson Anderson never played for the Bills. 3 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: The book on Taylor has been out for some time. And McD and his staff can't be stupid enough to not understand every team we play is going to continue to stack the box and force Taylor to beat them with his arm and he can't and won't do that. Just trying to understand why McD is latched on to a guy that Doug Whaley even tried to get rid off before he was fired. It's time to move on. I can see why they don't want to move away from Taylor too quickly considering he's a captain and the players respect him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Anderson never played for the Bills. I know that. I misread your original post. I thought you said it was the worst QB performance you've ever seen, which is why I mentioned Derek Anderson. But you said worst performance from a Bills QB, so my bad on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Saints were not in prevent IIRC. They were maybe playing a little off, but they were giving normal looks. Peterman just took advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: I know that. I misread your original post. I thought you said it was the worst QB performance you've ever seen, which is why I mentioned Derek Anderson. But you said worst performance from a Bills QB, so my bad on that Yeah, but what were Trent’s stats from that game? Anderson was still the winning QB. That doesn’t say much for Trent on that day. If I remember correctly, Edwards was incredibly awful. I’ll have to look up the numbers. It likely ranks up there with TT’s performance yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Its making me sick to my stomach to keep thinking about Tyrod going forward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Fallser said: Tyrod only has his legs to offer surprises. This is embarrassing, it's time to make a change. When teams expose TT week after week for not being a proper QB, we are going no where. The blueprint to beat the Bills is our there and now the fall is on...I'd be surprised if we make it to 8 wins... The raiders and bucs didn't really expose him... neither did atlanta, or denver. We're not going to win shootouts with peterman either. We aren't a shootout team at this point. We need to run the ball better and get into makeable 3rd down's. It'd also help if we stopped the other team and had some decent field position. We never started anywhere beyond the 25 yard line - all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Yeah, but what were Trent’s stats from that game? Anderson was still the winning QB. That doesn’t say much for Trent on that day. If I remember correctly, Edwards was incredibly awful. I’ll have to look up the numbers. It likely ranks up there with TT’s performance yesterday. Stats were marginally better I guess you can say. He was 16 for 31 for 152 yards with an INT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Must be tough to be an NFL QB that opposing teams consistently say the way to shut you down is to just make you have to do QB-type things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Do you throw Peterman into the lion's den with a trip out West to LA, KC, and then a home game against Bill Belichick's defense? I say yes as I'm done with Tyrod after defending him the last two and a half years, but I respect the coaches decision as they're more qualified to determine if and when to start Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Do you throw Peterman into the lion's den with a trip out West to LA, KC, and then a home game against Bill Belichick's defense? I say yes as I'm done with Tyrod after defending him the last two and a half years, but I respect the coaches decision as they're more qualified to determine if and when to start Peterman. I'd rather see him warm up against LA then KC or NE. Tyrod is going to get crushed these next few weeks, I want to see if Peterman can do it, if not at least we know teams won't say they made him be a QB Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Cover 1 @Cover_1_12m12 minutes ago More This will be an interesting play to see from all 22. Where was the safety when he released it deep to Thompson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 42 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Yeah, but what were Trent’s stats from that game? Anderson was still the winning QB. That doesn’t say much for Trent on that day. If I remember correctly, Edwards was incredibly awful. I’ll have to look up the numbers. It likely ranks up there with TT’s performance yesterday. Compared to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: That game seemed like the worst QB peformance ever at the time. It’s hard to believe that TT had worse numbers yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: I'd rather see him warm up against LA then KC or NE. Tyrod is going to get crushed these next few weeks, I want to see if Peterman can do it, if not at least we know teams won't say they made him be a QB LA has a much better defence than NE and KC. Joey Bosa and Ingram are going to absolutely wreck the Bills o line next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 How many times do people have to say this or do this before our HC hears it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: LA has a much better defence than NE and KC. Joey Bosa and Ingram are going to absolutely wreck the Bills o line next week It's definitely a concern. Chargers have the fifth-best sack percentage in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: It's definitely a concern. Chargers have the fifth-best sack percentage in the NFL. Ya they have a very underrated defence. Those two guys alone destroy a lot of game plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Cover 1 @Cover_1_12m12 minutes ago More This will be an interesting play to see from all 22. Where was the safety when he released it deep to Thompson? Benjamin is just like "well ok then" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: LA has a much better defence than NE and KC. Joey Bosa and Ingram are going to absolutely wreck the Bills o line next week It doesn't matter what D Tyrod plays he is dead in the water. It is also a road game Tyrod doesn't show for them. I'd rather see him play LA then get thrown into a KC or NE game to start. Just my opinion Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Which makes it more difficult to throw the ball down the field and score a touchdown. Yep true it does. But NP wasn't throwing the ball down the field, so there's that. He was throwing it under the 4 deep coverage and methodically taking what they gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, xRUSHx said: It doesn't matter what D Tyrod plays he is dead in the water Peterman or Tyrod will be screwed next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 hours ago, cd1 said: MAYBE - just maybe they were "4 Deep 10 to 15 yards off the line" BECAUSE Peterman was NOT AFRAID TO THROW THE BALL! OMG you guys... No it's just standard end of blowout game prevent defense to make the offense take time scoring. Again TT was awful, but that's where it ends. There is no diamond in the rough withNP's play. None. Zip. nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 If you are an actual Bills fan and not just a Tyrod lifer, how can you want to see this guy play again? Every defense that’s even decent against the run can completely shut us down. All they have to do is take away McCoy and we are done. When “Make the QB play QB” is the game plan...how much worse can the other guy be? We don’t know what Peterman is but we do know what Tyrod is...not good enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Peterman or Tyrod will be screwed next week I don't agree on Peterman but we also dont know for sure how Peterman will handle it, what we do know is Tyrod in road games is horrible. I'd rather see something new then Rex 2.0 and Tyrod 54 yard blowout #3 Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, 34-78-83 said: Yep true it does. But NP wasn't throwing the ball down the field, so there's that. He was throwing it under the 4 deep coverage and methodically taking what they gave him. Are you sure it was 4 deep coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, xRUSHx said: I don't agree on Peterman but we also dont know for sure how Peterman will handle it, what we do know is Tyrod in road games is horrible. I'd rather see something new then Rex 2.0 You are right in saying we don't know about Peterman. But chances are going on the road against one of the best pass rushing duo's in the NFL, combined with the fact the Bills have an awful line, things would not end too well for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: You are right in saying we don't know about Peterman. But chances are going on the road against one of the best pass rushing duo's in the NFL, combined with the fact the Bills have an awful line, things would not end too well for him Do you feel confident in Tyrod? Come on man I never want to see Tyrod again, I was ready for change in the preseason Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, xRUSHx said: Do you feel confident in Tyrod? Nope lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: Nope lol So why not take a chance over knowing it's already over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 tyrod is running back who wants to play QB. we've heard it plenty of times before. the best thing he can do is make a big play from a broken one. the bad thing is, every play is broken with him at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: So why not take a chance over knowing it's already over What's your definition of "over" though? Technically they are 5 and 4 and still in a playoff spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: What's your definition of "over" though? Technically they are 5 and 4 and still in a playoff spot It's over man, the fat lady is singing as Tyrod being a starting QB in the NFL. We won in spite of Tyrod not because of Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, xRUSHx said: It's over man, the fat lady is singing as Tyrod being a starting QB in the NFL. Ok, I was just asking what you meant by it. You just made it sound like the season was over by having a 2-7 record and they had nothing left to play for. I would personally start Tyrod because I think he gives them a better chance to win, but if they get to 5-7, then I would put in Peterman for the last 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think the Chargers have the best D line in the NFL. Just a shade better than the Jets. We will need to pass the football to win this game. Peterman gives us a better chance to at least win this game. Lynn is hoping to god that we start Taylor, easy W. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I think the Chargers have the best D line in the NFL. Just a shade better than the Jets. We will need to pass the football to win this game. Peterman gives us a better chance to at least win this game. Yes and Bosa is a monster and going to abuse Mills, Glenn or whoever he's lined up against. Chargers should have beat a very good Jags team on the road and will be out for blood against a battered Bills team. If Taylor has another terrible 1st half performance and we are losing can't imagine a scenario in which we don't go to Peterman at halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Ok, I was just asking what you meant by it. You just made it sound like the season was over by having a 2-7 record and they had nothing left to play for. I would personally start Tyrod because I think he gives them a better chance to win, but if they get to 5-7, then I would put in Peterman for the last 4 games Sorry man If I sound snotty, Im a little ticked off at the last two games. I think we still have a shot at the playoffs but only if Peterman comes in and saves the day otherwise yes I feel the fat lady is singing, it's over man. Tyrod, better chance to win? Did you see Tyrod the last two weeks? A store clerk could have done a better job IMO. I don't think Tyrod helps this team at all in fact I would say the opposite. Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, xRUSHx said: I think we still have a shot at the playoffs but only if Peterman comes in and saves the day otherwise yes I feel the fat lady is singing, it's over man. Tyrod, better chance to win? Did you see Tyrod the last two weeks? A store clerk could have done a better job. I don't think Tyrod helps this team at all in fact I would say the opposite. I don't think Tyrod played bad at all against the Jets. He was awful on Sunday though. Did you see the defence the past 2 weeks? What QB would win even one of those games? I believe in total the past 2 games they were outrushed 500 to about 150.... Peterman aint saving that Saints didn't punt once. Tell me, has there ever been a team that has won a game where the opposing team hasn't punted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I don't think Tyrod played bad at all against the Jets. He was awful on Sunday though. Did you see the defence the past 2 weeks? What QB would win even one of those games? I believe in total the past 2 games they were outrushed 500 to about 150.... Peterman aint saving that Saints didn't punt once. Tell me, has there ever been a team that has won a game where the opposing team hasn't punted? Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Drew Brees. They have all done it at one time. Also better QBs don't go three and out as much as we have the past two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I don't think Tyrod played bad at all against the Jets. He was awful on Sunday though. Did you see the defence the past 2 weeks? What QB would win even one of those games? I believe in total the past 2 games they were outrushed 500 to about 150.... Peterman aint saving that Saints didn't punt once. Tell me, has there ever been a team that has won a game where the opposing team hasn't punted? Our offense didn't help at all. If we would have done some scoring I'm sure our D would have helped more, the game was a lost cause when you know your QB cant do anything. With a QB like Brees he needs to be sitting on the bench I don't care how good your D is your not stopping his offense all the time but if you can keep him on the bench and slow him down with your offense on the field scoring you have a legit shot to win. As for the Jests we got blown out man you can't really be happy about Tyrod padding stats and with a straight face say he had a good game. He showed up when the game was over just like Trent Edwards used to do, look at those stats it wasn' t Trents fault. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: Sorry man If I sound snotty, Im a little ticked off at the last two games. I think we still have a shot at the playoffs but only if Peterman comes in and saves the day otherwise yes I feel the fat lady is singing, it's over man. Tyrod, better chance to win? Did you see Tyrod the last two weeks? A store clerk could have done a better job. I don't think Tyrod helps this team at all in fact I would say the opposite. ...for what it's worth, here are my big picture concerns without assessing blame to individuals in a TEAM sport...we have the SAME personnel that got us to 5-2 and against clubs where the "W" was earned that virtually nobody forecasted.....yet in the past 11 days, we have been woefully gut punched by the Jets and NO with NO counter punches....just sat there and took our major licks......doesn't the inability to counter lie solely at the feet of your HC, DC and OC?.......aren't THEY responsible for putting your club in the best position to win or did all personnel suddenly come down with leprosy or STD's??............. Edited November 13, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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