John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I knew that we were going to see a difference....not specifically because it was Marcel but because you dont take a player you pay 100 million dollars to....trade him and not have a player behind him that is playing just as well They went from Marcel to Adolphus who has not shown even an inkling of being about to play at a starter level yet..... Today happened because our DL got pushed around.....badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Keep sucking your thumb. Kirby is one of the best and most informed posters on this site. Childish insults are a weak way to debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Saying Im not going to talk to you anymore because you dont agree with me is about as childish as it gets which is exactly what he did. He got exactly the response he deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hard Numbers - Two games without Dareus, we have now given up 246 rushing yards per game. 7 games with Dareus, we gave up only 80 rushing yards per game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I have always said that Dareus has the god given talent to be the best DT to ever play the game. The guy has gone through a lot of horrible tragedies in his life. He is a good player but when you add in that contract with the fact that he was one strike away from close to a full season suspension I think the Bills made the only move they could in trading him. I would like to see him one year come into a season without dealing with an injury in the offseason and in peak form. If he does he will be in the pro bowl easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Even if Dareus was a big letdown.....his talent and size alone was enough to hole up the middle. Pretty crazy how a lazy Dareus can do so much for lane blockage. Anyways...we miss him...and its showing big time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I honestly think the defense has quit on McD/Frazier because of the Dareus trade. Nobody is questioning MD not being worth his ridiculous contact but when you go and disrupt a lockerroom in that fashion midseason it has consequences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: This leads me to believe that McBeane made a huge error in talent assestment and thought the other guys on the line could just come in and carry the load and they have shown to be absolutely garbage the last two weeks. This scares me about him evaluating other positions in the future. You said it. It's not just a bad trade. It's BAD JUDGEMENT. It casts doubt on his ability to do this job well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Mcbeane made exactly the right decision. You dont pay average players 16 million a season. Dareus was getting paid for his first five years in the league. Not his last two plus. this is the 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' - it clearly made our team worse during a critical playoff push. They had no intention of keeping Dareus from day 1, which means to me that there was no effort to 'get him on board'. Might work out in the long run, but it hurts us real bad now. Our season is likely over now. Edited November 13, 2017 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Nope. We need Marcy's play and getting a 6th blows But we will be better off in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: How did the Run Defense look with Dareus? Isnt that more important in a playoff fighting year over a 6th that you could have gotten in the offseason after this year anyway? Even if Dareus were here how is the offense going to score enough to win the last two games? 3 points today before garbage time. 7 points against the Jets before garbage time. Even if Dareus would have made a positive impact on defense, no way it would have been enough to get us close to a win in these last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Nope. We need Marcy's play and getting a 6th blows But we will be better off in the long run. Long run? Saw lots of them in the last two weeks as the defense crumbles. Five+ new Tyrod threads and one on Peterman starting on a day when the Bills gave up 298 yards rushing. Edited November 13, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Marcel played in plenty of high rushing days but definitely they miss him more than I’d have thought possible given his limited snap count. This defense has flat quit in the past two weeks. It’s awful. The 93 yard all rush drive was almost he worst single drive I’ve seen a defense have. Edited November 13, 2017 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I admit the D-line is worse, and of course has less depth without him. However, in the long run I think they are better off without him and his contract. Still happy with the move in the long run. We've been hearing the "in the long run I think they are better off without him" excuse for most of this century whenever the Bills have shed a good/great player for whatever stupid reason their "brain trust" had at the time, almost none of which had anything to do with how well said player actually played. Well, like country singer Alan Jackson said in his song "Someday" about the woman telling her man adios: "...sometimes someday just never comes" ... and that sure sums up the situation facing Bills' fans: how much longer are they going to maintain serious interest -- investing their time and money -- in a team that isn't interested enough in winning to put winning teams on the field more than once a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 No apologizing from me. He would not have made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Long run? Saw lots of them in the last two weeks as the defense crumbles. Five+ new Tyrod threads and one on Peterman starting on a day when the Bills gave up 298 yards rushing. They all suck, lack of talent has caught up to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Mike RodakVerified account @mikerodak25m25 minutes ago More The Saints averaged 14.2 yards per rush when the Bills had 8 or more defenders in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Regardless of what the FO says to appease us, this team is being built for the long haul & not for this year. Getting rid of Dareus was a great move & totally in line with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JM2009 said: Mike RodakVerified account @mikerodak25m25 minutes ago More The Saints averaged 14.2 yards per rush when the Bills had 8 or more defenders in the box. Embarrassing, Disgusting., Putrid, Terrible, Awful, and Definitely not #PlayoffCaliber. #DefendOURDirt My Ass! Edited November 13, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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