Gugny Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How the hell you have that pecking order is beyond me. Beane is doing a great job, but without a draft under his belt this is how I have them stacked in the last 20 years or so... Polian > Butler > Beane > Donahoe > Nix > Whaley > Levy > Russ It wasn't in order. Levy, by FAR, is the worst GM ever. If it wasn't for Matt Millen, he'd be the worst ever in NFL history. And I put Whaley ahead of Polian and Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 None off these guys were any good. It is good he got rid of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Let me know what you think in year 3 & 4 of his reign... until then sit back and appreciate what seems to be a group of leaders throwing the trash away and demanding top notch, hard working high character guys. Next year the building starts with his first draft, plus a large amount of Cap space then starting 2019, we should gain a large amount of Cap space and if he hits on the next 2 drafts with Brady gone, Buffalo will be on top for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 He's all about the future, and I guess Terry has bought into that. I'm still enjoying 4-2, so hope for the best going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm sure it's going to be just as easy to lose without Dareus as it has been to do with him. Maybe the next time we sign a player to a contract worth nearly $100,000,000.00 that guy will actually give a **** about playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How? He has already shown he is a piss poor decision maker with the roster moves he has made so far. Who the hell would trust this guy with what could be the most important draft in the last 20 years for this team. Settle down Millie it all gonna be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 You can always count on this OP for the chicken little post of the day. At least he waited 6 games into the first season to declare failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Wow, I am not surprised he was traded, yet I am surprised we didnt get someone like Yeldone ( rb) thrown in with 6 th ,possible 5 th round pick. Thats just my opinion comparing to what we got for trading Darby who doesnt have the experience that MD has. The other thing that slightly concerns me is that the Jags have a very good pass rushing front 4 so adding Dareus will help shore up their run D since I think its evident he is not going to be relied upon for sacks at this point. The jags are much like we are this year, relying mostly on their D and we might be competing for a wild card spot this year if both teams keep playing at their current levels. I am good with getting rid of MD given his play now for the Bills, but would have rather seen him traded to a team not in contention for the same wild card position. MD will quickly find out there is no being late for anything given Coughlins presence back down here, so we can hope Dareus continues to be Dareus which is possible, or he finds out its pretty easy to get into plenty of distractions believe it or not in Jacksonville. Its not the same place, red neck, good ol boy town it was when I moved here from Ohio in 85 to start my medical Career. How do you guys think this will make the Bills better this year ? Just asking as a long time Bills fan; I dont think the cap space means that much now or next year,and with an open roster spot who would you like to see added? We are really thin In the D backfield which I think will hurt us this week unfortunately. That seems a likely move to me even with the glaring receiver need as well. They probably need bodies there despite the latest addition cb who will take some time to fit in the current scheme. Any news on Streater since the workout? I think he would get snaps more quickly ( wr, special teams) having been at training camp, as opposed to someone from a different practice squad for example. Lots of smart posters here and Im jus interested in your thoughts ? ( I havent seen any other moves yet, so sorry if I missed that ) Addition by subtraction.If they choose to trade Cordy we better get more than a pick for him though. Let's not forget Darius is one !@#$ up away from a yr suspension. I bet he does great for them,which gives us a 5th then he gets himself in trouble. It wasn't in order. Levy, by FAR, is the worst GM ever. If it wasn't for Matt Millen, he'd be the worst ever in NFL history. And I put Whaley ahead of Polian and Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hasn't made a single right decision his tenure here. Keeps trading away the only talented players on our roster and for what? Has anyone taken a look at our DT depth, its horrible. He just handed out a pro bowl DT in the prime of his career for pennies. NONE of his trades/signings have made any sense. complete shambles. People think this is a good trade just bc we are 4-2. Wait until November rolls around and the real Buffalo Bills show up just like the last 17 years folks. This fan base is legit the most delusional in the NFL. no joke. If anyone is responsible for the success of our team right now its DOUG WHALEY MD is a weed head! Next Man Up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I have no idea how Mr. Bean will rank, but I am not particularly impressed with what he has gotten back in return for his trades. We can agree or disagree on whether Sammy etc. should have been traded, but Mr. Bean reminds me of Tim Murray . . . and not in a good way. Teams could sense how desperate he was to trade Sammy and Dareus and gave up relatively little. Not impressed so far. I hate buying high and then selling low. Right now, Bean is lucky that the Bills are 4-2. If this goes south this year, it is not going to be fun for him or SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hasn't made a single right decision his tenure here. Keeps trading away the only talented players on our roster and for what? Has anyone taken a look at our DT depth, its horrible. He just handed out a pro bowl DT in the prime of his career for pennies. NONE of his trades/signings have made any sense. complete shambles. People think this is a good trade just bc we are 4-2. Wait until November rolls around and the real Buffalo Bills show up just like the last 17 years folks. This fan base is legit the most delusional in the NFL. no joke. If anyone is responsible for the success of our team right now its DOUG WHALEY Meatballs 90 years old and still outplaying Mr Big Puff. I bet Dareus is out of football in 2years if he stays on the same trajectory. Trust the process. It wasn't in order. Levy, by FAR, is the worst GM ever. If it wasn't for Matt Millen, he'd be the worst ever in NFL history. And I put Whaley ahead of Polian and Butler. Whats really funny is that Matt Millen sounds pretty intelligent when he talks football then turns illiterate when he drafts;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Get a grip. The Bills now have have considerable cap flexibility, they have good players that fit their systems, have stockpiled 10 picks and they are frggin are 4-2, with have a decent chance at the playoffs. At worse, Beane is a good GM. Barely starting and not even remotely playing to his contract. Several DTs have out played him or matched his performance, hes one toke from a one year suspension and if we think hes average now, what would the Bills get for him in a year or two (and tens o millions dollars later)? They would cut him at the end of the year. I hear your point but you can't tell me the Bills are a better team today without Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 My only issue is the timing. 4-2 and going into a huge game on Sunday, with playoff talk heating up. Dareus was underperforming, but still one of the top DL options in the rotation. I knew he had to go, but figured it would be after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Dareus obviously didn't fit in with the process, but a sixth round draft choice doesnt do much for me. Id rather just have held onto him, and hope that he could display an occasional burst of his true potential. The way I see it, 30 teams did NOT think Dareus was worth a 5th round pick (to outbid Jax's offer of a 6th round pick), so maybe Buffalo did the best they could here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 My only issue is the timing. 4-2 and going into a huge game on Sunday, with playoff talk heating up. Dareus was underperforming, but still one of the top DL options in the rotation. I knew he had to go, but figured it would be after the season. Someone posted he plays 33% of the snaps. If each team ran 80 plays on us thats 26.4 per game and 158.4 for all 6. He has 4 tackles and 1 sack. They won't even have to wash his uniform for the next guy he didn't even break a sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How the hell do you compare a 2 yr DB like Darby who has no discipline issues, a relatively modest contract, and just was not a good fit for the defense with a 6 year veteran who is one screw up away from a full season suspension, grossly overpaid (highest paid), and gives almost no effort? Comical. We were lucky to get a sixth rounder (conditional fifth) for getting out from under that dumpster fire. It makes us better by jettisoning a locker room cancer. This team is all heart. When your highest paid player is a half ass, that is not a plus You missed my point or question, which is how do you make the Bills better NOW with an open roster spot. I’m not arguing he shouldn’t have been traded but he has had at least a history of several good seasons and Darby had one as a rookie. I was just wondering why we might not have added or gotten something like Gaines ,Matthews , etc Obviously Jacksonville has the need or they never call. Fans down here are just as fed up with lousy teams as we are as Bills fans. Their owner has been widely criticised here for never spending money to actually field a competitive team. They obviously think they are playoff worthy and felt the need for a move now. I don’t think we were bargaining from a weak position which is what the results look like to me. I never stated the Bills were worse without MD, just asked what move would you consider with an open roster spot and current needs now !!! Also anything you say about how Dareus was affecting the lockeroom or being a cancer or whatever derogatory Name you use is nothing more than your uneducated subjective assumption. Unless you work for the BILLs or you are doing their laundry or somehow have access to the locker room and can give me quotes from players complaining about him , just projecting your thoughts doesn’t amount to any truth. Obviously we all agree he was not appreciated by the current coach etc ,but that at least is proven fact. I merely suggested it’s POSSIBLE Dareus helps solidify a defense competing against us for a wildcard spot and I just wondered if perhaps we might have gotten a little more. This is not directed at you but rather other posters stating things that 1) probably not true 2)don’t add to further any discussion They just now discussed the trade from the jags standpoint in the media here in Jax. They are last in yards/ carry in the nfl yet much better against the pass. They understand the risk and his history ( including his good history) and the beat writers feel like this was a “great move and possible steal” . Knowing Jacksonville’s weakness with the run, maybe we could have done better than a 6 th round. It is a plausible and not comical premise. Thx for your insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Someone posted he plays 33% of the snaps. If each team ran 80 plays on us thats 26.4 per game and 158.4 for all 6. He has 4 tackles and 1 sack. They won't even have to wash his uniform for the next guy he didn't even break a sweat. True-- but he did play more vs. Tampa (showcased?), and was fairly decent. The interior of the DL is short on depth and talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I have nothing to add to the discussion. I just want to be a part of something that began with such an epically stupid post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 @NFLResearch Brandon Beane has re-shaped the Bills roster since taking over as the Bills GM in May 7:28 PM - 27 Oct 2017 I am still in disbelief we got picks for Ragland and Cardale. Chiefs LBs have been terrible all year and Cardale has no future in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 This may be the dumbest thread ever on any forum, anywhere in the history of threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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