Southern Bills Fan Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 the case should be filed for sure. How valid this specific story is to CTE and other injuries to the brain may be hard to prove out. But i am in the camp that .. it happens. The severity, the consequences are each individual stories. But the volume of these seeming relationships is not to be discounted and better appreciated i hope. Aaron went off the deep end. Wish he had help before. But his suicide shows us Society is not really trying to help these people. Just corral them. The lunatics are on the grass ! sad story for AH and everyone who finds themselves in such a horrid state of being. Including all the people who watched this Transpire. Most people don't Please tell us how society should have "helped" him? Corral him? So how many murders does he get before society should go from help to corral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likei've Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Being a boxing fan, I've seen this numerous times before where the fighter will kill his spouse, a family member or friend. Hernandez is a special case because he was believed to be a lunatic prior, but these findings cannot be ignored. I think it can be ignored. They're being paid handsomely and many players were impoverished and this was the easiest way to richville. They know the risks before they strap on the pads. It's a gamble but it's their gamble to make. If I could have played professionally I would have. A few broken eggs... meh... Joining the military can be bad for your health and you don't get paid like pro athletes. I don't see anyone trying to discourage people from joining the military. Edited September 22, 2017 by likei've Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 control data on this science, please. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Wasn't he into gangs before he ever entered the NFL? CTE isn't an excuse for him being a murdering scumbag. I don't disagree with you at all on this, he was inherently a scum bag in this regard from everything I have seen on him. Just wondering how much this CTE starts to impact overall public perception. More interesting though is going to be the liability teams can face moving forward based on the potential impact of this case. If the team ultimately loses a case like this, its going to prevent any teams in the future taking chances on prospects with any off field concerns I would think. title should clarify that it is the worst ever in a 27 yr old Was too long, which is why people should read more than just a title before replying as it directly references the age in the OP. Not singling you out, its just a common thing around here where people respond to a thread title and don't actually read the OP, The lawyer representing the Hernandez family is Jose Baez. It starts losing credibility once you remember that's the "person" who defended Casey Anthony. Ha wow...agreed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 How many 27 year olds have been tested? Is this like the tallest guy to ever be the first to walk on the moon? Regardless, he'd been playing football and doing his little "gang thing" for a long, long time. Way to sue the deep pockets for your personal choices. Shocking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Give a bunch of steroid-addled 27 year olds Alzheimer's and there would absolutely be violent crimes committed. Also, after asking my wife, who is a health care provider, elderly Alz patients do commit violent acts on a frequent basis. It's just that they're old, and less likely to do as much damage. I work in health care as well., I have worked with various groups with degenerative brain diseases. There is a big difference between aggression, and being a murderer. I won't buy for a minute that a brain disorder is creating murderers. It's a convenient excuse for a violent scumbag. Do we take accountability for any of our actions in today's society? Being a boxing fan, I've seen this numerous times before where the fighter will kill his spouse, a family member or friend. Hernandez is a special case because he was believed to be a lunatic prior, but these findings cannot be ignored. Is there any chance that violent sports might attract some people who already have violent tendencies? Also what percentage of football players and boxers are murderers? It's probably no higher than that of the general public. Therefore the CTE copout isn't necessarily reality. Edited September 22, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I don't disagree with you at all on this, he was inherently a scum bag in this regard from everything I have seen on him. Just wondering how much this CTE starts to impact overall public perception. More interesting though is going to be the liability teams can face moving forward based on the potential impact of this case. If the team ultimately loses a case like this, its going to prevent any teams in the future taking chances on prospects with any off field concerns I would think. Was too long, which is why people should read more than just a title before replying as it directly references the age in the OP. Not singling you out, its just a common thing around here where people respond to a thread title and don't actually read the OP, Ha wow...agreed lol One might consider dropping things like "whoa" from the title if forced to choose which info to include... one might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 No way to prove its all from his time with the Patriots. Could be from his high-school and college days too. Or from his bloods initiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 How many 27 year olds have been tested? Is this like the tallest guy to ever be the first to walk on the moon? Regardless, he'd been playing football and doing his little "gang thing" for a long, long time. Way to sue the deep pockets for your personal choices. Shocking... I have to believe that very few 27 year olds have been tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Please tell us how society should have "helped" him? Corral him? So how many murders does he get before society should go from help to corral? Murders? He was off the rails well before the crimes that were legally punished Edited September 22, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Do the chest beating PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY types really not understand mitigating circumstances? Nobody wants to wipe Hernandez's slate clean because he had CTE. It just might help explain how a bad guy was made worse. The brain is the most complex object on the planet, and we all have one, but understand so little about it. I'm glad smart people are trying to figure it out and how we might limit such damage in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 One might consider dropping things like "whoa" from the title if forced to choose which info to include... one might. Or one can assume people will actually read the actual thread post to get all the info before commenting...one just might... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Do the chest beating PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY types really not understand mitigating circumstances? Nobody wants to wipe Hernandez's slate clean because he had CTE. It just might help explain how a bad guy was made worse. The brain is the most complex object on the planet, and we all have one, but understand so little about it. I'm glad smart people are trying to figure it out and how we might limit such damage in the future. No, because excuses can rarely be made for murder. There have always been murderers, and there always will be. Nothing will stop it. Sometimes there is simply evil in the world. Study CTE all you want, but Hernandez is a unique case. The guy already had a track that spoke for itself. There is no need to explain what "made a bad guy worse". It reminds me of the 60 minute specials where they profile a murderer. They always point to something that scarred the person during their childhood. We all have these issues in our life, while some may be much worse than others, they are still no excuse. There has to be evil within someone to do such a thing imo. Much of this just comes down to personal beliefs imo. Edited September 22, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Prison walls are hard. The jackass probably head butted the walls daily and yes, I do believe that he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 The lawyer representing the Hernandez family is Jose Baez. It starts losing credibility once you remember that's the "person" who defended Casey Anthony. But she was damn good at Woodstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Nope to much money involved. People put aside the risks for millions. You're looking at it from the perspective of the players. At core, the NFL is a business. Look at it from the point of view of a business: liability exposure vs profits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Do the chest beating PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY types really not understand mitigating circumstances? Nobody wants to wipe Hernandez's slate clean because he had CTE. It just might help explain how a bad guy was made worse. The brain is the most complex object on the planet, and we all have one, but understand so little about it. I'm glad smart people are trying to figure it out and how we might limit such damage in the future. Generally, the primary feature of mental disorders are poor impulse control (affective disorders) or disorganized thought (psychotic disorders). Alzheimer's - and, by extension, CTE - share properties of both. Neither is conducive to the sort of willful and premeditated murders that Hernandez committed. In other words: he was an !@#$, and CTE almost certainly had very little contribution to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I can't stand when families try to go after money because of stuff like this. Everyone should know the dangers of playing football. It is a violent game and nothing is promised for the present and future. And they almost act like it an excuse to gun down 3 people, or however he actually murdered. I get there is legal stuff involved, but it should be common sense that football is not good for the head trauma Nope to much money involved. People put aside the risks for millions. Exactly. If someone told me right now the risks of football, but offered me a 40 million dollar contract, I would 100 percent play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) I can't stand when families try to go after money because of stuff like this. Everyone should know the dangers of playing football. It is a violent game and nothing is promised for the present and future. And they almost act like it an excuse to gun down 3 people, or however he actually murdered. I get there is legal stuff involved, but it should be common sense that football is not good for the head trauma Exactly. If someone told me right now the risks of football, but offered me a 40 million dollar contract, I would 100 percent play Thank God he had marijuana to calm those CTE-influenced violent outbursts. Otherwise someone might've died. http://nypost.com/2017/02/23/aaron-hernandez-might-use-weed-as-defense-in-double-murder-trial/ Hernandez’s affinity for marijuana was integral in his first murder trial, in which he was convicted of killing Odin Lloyd, a semi-pro football player, in June 2013. According to testimony from the trial, Hernandez ran up a $243 bar tab and smoked pot in the hours before Lloyd — the boyfriend of his fiancee’s sister — was shot to death. McGovern notes that Lloyd – who was called the “blunt master” by one of Hernandez’s former attorneys – was Hernandez’s source for marijuana, which he would at times smoke up to an ounce per day. Edited September 22, 2017 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty98 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Murders? He was off the rails well before the crimes that were legally punished Dude was caught rubbing one out during a team film session at UF...dude was all messed up prior to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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