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After reviewing moves to me Jonathan Williams is next out door at 1BD. Played late Thursday. Kept every back but UB kid. Dallas obvious partner.

He's supposed to be McCoy's primary backup, but since all of Whaley's picks are headed out, nothing would surprise me.

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I fell like this current team is lacking in the talent department. The talent hasn't been this low since the Dicky J & Chris Kelsey days.

Can we dispense with the hyperbole:

Lesean McCoy - Top 3 running back, likely future HoFer

Cordy Glenn - Above average LT

Richie Incognito - Perennial pro bowl guard

Eric Wood - Severely underrated here

Tyrod Taylor - Say what you want about him, but analytic sites call him vastly underrated, 47 tds to 15 ints (how many better have we had since Kelly, really)

Marcell Dareus - Sure he's got off-field issues, but when active he's one of the best DTs in the league

Kyle Williams - Ok, he's 34, but has the perennial pro bowler slowed down?

Jerry Hughes - Has had off years, but inarguably talented

Shaq Lawson - Considered by many to go as high as 11th last year in draft

Lorenzo Alexander - A ton of tackles, and third in the league in sacks

Tre'Davious White - Extremely promising rookie

Zay Jones - All-time NCAA Div I season and career leader in receptions

 

I'd also argue that Preston Brown is looking as he did in his rookie season, John Miller was PFF's most improved, Dion Dawkins had a hell of a spring, and Jordan Matthews has 200 more yards than Sammy in the same amount of time (is he the same potential talent, not by a longshot, but on a run-first team that led the league in rushing by 15 ypg, he's not nothing), and Charles Clay, while underwhelming so far, is not untalented.

 

Could this team have a disastrous year? Sure, but I don't really get this sudden rush to declare them one of the worst in a sea of truly awful teams this year. On paper, this looks like a team that should hover around the same .500 they do every year, and who could have an influx of talent in the upcoming years. Sometimes these teams catch lightning in a bottle, or something clicks. I mostly love what McDermott's been doing (save Ducasse-Miller battle) and am going into the season with an open mind.

 

However, to call this a low talent team is simply absurd.

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They make a few trades and suddenly its a fire sale at OBD.

 

Come on people get a grip,there is no comparison from a fringe 5th 6th depth corner that was a possible cut and your second string RB.

 

Some of you are delusional..


Can we dispense with the hyperbole:

Lesean McCoy - Top 3 running back, likely future HoFer

Cordy Glenn - Above average LT

Richie Incognito - Perennial pro bowl guard

Eric Wood - Severely underrated here

Tyrod Taylor - Say what you want about him, but analytic sites call him vastly underrated, 47 tds to 15 ints (how many better have we had since Kelly, really)

Marcell Dareus - Sure he's got off-field issues, but when active he's one of the best DTs in the league

Kyle Williams - Ok, he's 34, but has the perennial pro bowler slowed down?

Jerry Hughes - Has had off years, but inarguably talented

Shaq Lawson - Considered by many to go as high as 11th last year in draft

Lorenzo Alexander - A ton of tackles, and third in the league in sacks

Tre'Davious White - Extremely promising rookie

Zay Jones - All-time NCAA Div I season and career leader in receptions

 

I'd also argue that Preston Brown is looking as he did in his rookie season, John Miller was PFF's most improved, Dion Dawkins had a hell of a spring, and Jordan Matthews has 200 more yards than Sammy in the same amount of time (is he the same potential talent, not by a longshot, but on a run-first team that led the league in rushing by 15 ypg, he's not nothing), and Charles Clay, while underwhelming so far, is not untalented.

 

Could this team have a disastrous year? Sure, but I don't really get this sudden rush to declare them one of the worst in a sea of truly awful teams this year. On paper, this looks like a team that should hover around the same .500 they do every year, and who could have an influx of talent in the upcoming years. Sometimes these teams catch lightning in a bottle, or something clicks. I mostly love what McDermott's been doing (save Ducasse-Miller battle) and am going into the season with an open mind.

 

However, to call this a low talent team is simply absurd.

I agree but it is over reaction Sat/Sunday ;).

 

Next is a torch and pitch fork march to OBD to demand Wrex and Whaley are brought back ;)

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I'd have to agree. Seems like all that matters is if they are " their guys" .

Again, really?!?! I didn't love the Sammy or Darby trades, but the former was injured most of last year and the latter was awful last year. Gilmore was the TBD whipping boy until he was gone and last year he was lights out in half his games and torched in the rest. I liked Gillislee, but he was more than likely aided by the strong overall run game (Karlos Williams put up almost identical stats and J-Will is looking just fine). I don't really get letting NRC go, but Leonard Johnson/Shareece Wright/EJ Gaines are in the same category. Kevon Seymour was a 7th round rookie who showed flashes, but wasn't exactly irreplaceable. Can you really say last year's safety situation is better, particularly if Poyer's pre-season indicates how he'll play in the regular season...and that reminds me. When listing talent, I forgot:

 

Micah Hyde - on almost every list of best FA acquisitions I saw.

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You skipped a lot of letters to connect those dots OP. The coach and GM are going all in on fixing an issue and trying to get a team out of playoff hell. Who cares if they stink this year, the Bills have stunk for 17 years really. Cutting or trading the backup RB isn't going to be the move that brings home the Lombardi Trophy.

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Dont see it. I dont see anyone remotely good enough to backup Shady. I could see us trying to sign Jeremy Kerley and release Taiwan Jones. All the bills annoucers were talking about how great Jones was on special teams. But all i saw were mistakes. He struggled with penalties right out of the gate. He had a chance to down a punt inside 5 but let it get into the endzone. His speed always put him in good position but he couldnt capitolize so i have no idea why Tasker was praising Jones so much.

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Can we dispense with the hyperbole:

Lesean McCoy - Top 3 running back, likely future HoFer

Cordy Glenn - Above average LT

Richie Incognito - Perennial pro bowl guard

Eric Wood - Severely underrated here

Tyrod Taylor - Say what you want about him, but analytic sites call him vastly underrated, 47 tds to 15 ints (how many better have we had since Kelly, really)

Marcell Dareus - Sure he's got off-field issues, but when active he's one of the best DTs in the league

Kyle Williams - Ok, he's 34, but has the perennial pro bowler slowed down?

Jerry Hughes - Has had off years, but inarguably talented

Shaq Lawson - Considered by many to go as high as 11th last year in draft

Lorenzo Alexander - A ton of tackles, and third in the league in sacks

Tre'Davious White - Extremely promising rookie

Zay Jones - All-time NCAA Div I season and career leader in receptions

 

I'd also argue that Preston Brown is looking as he did in his rookie season, John Miller was PFF's most improved, Dion Dawkins had a hell of a spring, and Jordan Matthews has 200 more yards than Sammy in the same amount of time (is he the same potential talent, not by a longshot, but on a run-first team that led the league in rushing by 15 ypg, he's not nothing), and Charles Clay, while underwhelming so far, is not untalented.

 

Could this team have a disastrous year? Sure, but I don't really get this sudden rush to declare them one of the worst in a sea of truly awful teams this year. On paper, this looks like a team that should hover around the same .500 they do every year, and who could have an influx of talent in the upcoming years. Sometimes these teams catch lightning in a bottle, or something clicks. I mostly love what McDermott's been doing (save Ducasse-Miller battle) and am going into the season with an open mind.

 

However, to call this a low talent team is simply absurd.

 

Thank you. It cannot be said better than that.

 

These threads are what prompted my sig line !!

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