The Frankish Reich Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So, do you believe the Bills have the right to terminate him for his protest? If so, you could not be more wrong. There would be a union grievance filed immediately, and upheld. Your Curt Schilling example , if it's even true, proves nothing. And of course Schilling has demonstrated time and again that he is a complete moron. Yes he has. But by the way, has Kaepernick demonstrated that he is actually an intelligent, thoughtful person engaging in a well thought-out form of protest? Not that I've seen. (I have heard Arian Foster, and I would say that he is an intelligent man and his various stands have been principled.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Not to derail the conversation but we used to do the invocation before basketball games in NOLA. That stopped when Benson bought the team but I believe that OKC still does it (they stole everything else). How do people feel about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) The Bills can cut him for any reason they chose so long as they do not violate labor laws (race, gender, age, etc...). In fact, they certainly should cut him for no other reason than he's a TERRIBLE excuse for an NFL OT on the field. Edited September 1, 2017 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Then what should happen is a recording of the anthem that can be universally played such that people won't be offended and the country won'y come tumbling down due to any deviation. The main problem with the anthem is that its simply not a very good song for singing along with or even having it performed very well. Its simply a song which if you have a bad voice, it invites excess often leading to humorou renditions. I think America the Beautiful would make for a far better anthem if you're looking for a tune which honors the country and lends itself both to group singing and steering individual performances. What do we expect from a song which begins with a question beginning with the odd interrogative O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 FU & STFU So we can put you down as a 'maybe?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You name calling doesn't make your nonsense any more valid. It's exactly what weaklings do when they have nothing else. Well done. I'm not trying to validate anything. I'm simply pointing out that 54,000 of your 55,000 posts are links to someone else's words. And the other 1,000 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If there's one thing I really don't like, its other people telling me what I should do and how I should act. Show your pride how you want and don't tell me how to live my life. Or move to North Korea if that's how you like it, to use a common dumb line from people like you. It's obvious that your mama and daddy never told you what to do. Their are rules and directions given onto you from authority which you must obey or their will be consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The Bills can cut him for any reason they chose so long as they do not violate labor laws (race, gender, age, etc...). In fact, they certainly should cut him for no other reason than he's a TERRIBLE excuse for an NFL OT on the field. How about treason, aiding and abetting the defense's line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not trying to validate anything. I'm simply pointing out that 54,000 of your 55,000 posts are links to someone else's words. And the other 1,000 .... Does that make you feel better? Still a nonsense Gugny standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 How about treason, aiding and abetting the defense's line In that case execution is in order, I believe the NFLPA has a clause allowing for sideline executions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So we can put you down as a 'maybe?' HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I am amazed that so many here wonder why the Anthem is played at a public sporting event? Maybe a generational thing as I hear some people believe in not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. I like the anthem played at event. I love it actually. I know where I stand. If the Anthem is played at a public event you stand at attention is a quiet and respectful manner, hats off for you gents. We should be thankful to live in America and have the rights we have. Freedom is a gift to us and unfortunately it is not a human right everywhere in the world. If you wish to protest the Anthem then you should leave the field area or the stands. Players can go to the dressing, fans to the concessions. In this way you get to "protest" and the rest of us, who happen to be the overwhelming majority, are not offended. Those who do not "protest" should not harass the ones that do. So be it. It is their right to "protest". Most of us cannot protest at work. Most of us will be punished or fired for doing so. NFL players who think this is helping their cause are misguided. NFL Players who choose this route to make a difference are taking the easy way out. The NFL is afraid to make a policy. I wonder how the NFL would feel if all the police and security at the games decided to protest and go on strike at halftime of every NFL game for the season opener? A scary thought. Our police and our military are far more important then any off these players or any NFL game. Lets just hope they don't decide to "protest" while at work too. After all, it is their right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This whole anthem protest thing got off on the wrong foot because patient zero - Kaepernick - has absolutely no judgment. Remember, he's the guy wearing the Castro shirt. Anyone now refusing to stand respectfully when the anthem is played will be associated with Kaep, who either isn't very smart or is almost ridiculously ignorant of the larger world ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Oh, I see you're the type of person to give weight to the color of the victim. My mistake. "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them who despitefully use you, and persecute you." -JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So, do you believe the Bills have the right to terminate him for his protest? If so, you could not be more wrong. There would be a union grievance filed immediately, and upheld. Your Curt Schilling example , if it's even true, which I doubt, proves nothing. And of course Schilling has demonstrated time and again that he is a complete moron. Yes, they have the right to terminate him for his protest. There is a narrow list of things you aren't allowed to be terminated for, and that's not on the list. Nice work though, with being ignorant and dismissive of relevant facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) I am amazed that so many here wonder why the Anthem is played at a public sporting event? Maybe a generational thing as I hear some people believe in not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. I like the anthem played at event. I love it actually. I know where I stand. If the Anthem is played at a public event you stand at attention is a quiet and respectful manner, hats off for you gents. We should be thankful to live in America and have the rights we have. Freedom is a gift to us and unfortunately it is not a human right everywhere in the world. If you wish to protest the Anthem then you should leave the field area or the stands. Players can go to the dressing, fans to the concessions. In this way you get to "protest" and the rest of us, who happen to be the overwhelming majority, are not offended. Those who do not "protest" should not harass the ones that do. So be it. It is their right to "protest". Most of us cannot protest at work. Most of us will be punished or fired for doing so. NFL players who think this is helping their cause are misguided. NFL Players who choose this route to make a difference are taking the easy way out. The NFL is afraid to make a policy. I wonder how the NFL would feel if all the police and security at the games decided to protest and go on strike at halftime of every NFL game for the season opener? A scary thought. Our police and our military are far more important then any off these players or any NFL game. Lets just hope they don't decide to "protest" while at work too. After all, it is their right! Just curious who is worse? the protesters and the thousands of fans who are just outside of the gates pounding those last few beers while the anthem is being played? Edited September 1, 2017 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Personally I think it's a terrible forum for protest, and detracts from whatever you are protesting...but people have the right to do it, and employers have the right to fire and not hire those that do it. People are so used to being entitled to things these days, that they believe they can say and do anything they want with no consequences what so ever... Sure, free speech allows you to legally do and say things...but that doesn't mean you are immune from any consequences, YES THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yes, they have the right to terminate him for his protest. There is a narrow list of things you aren't allowed to be terminated for, and that's not on the list. Nice work though, with being ignorant and dismissive of relevant facts. Some probably wish that would happen so they could claim civil rights violation and try to get this heard by the Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I am amazed that so many here wonder why the Anthem is played at a public sporting event? Maybe a generational thing as I hear some people believe in not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. I like the anthem played at event. I love it actually. I know where I stand. If the Anthem is played at a public event you stand at attention is a quiet and respectful manner, hats off for you gents. We should be thankful to live in America and have the rights we have. Freedom is a gift to us and unfortunately it is not a human right everywhere in the world. If you wish to protest the Anthem then you should leave the field area or the stands. Players can go to the dressing, fans to the concessions. In this way you get to "protest" and the rest of us, who happen to be the overwhelming majority, are not offended. Those who do not "protest" should not harass the ones that do. So be it. It is their right to "protest". Most of us cannot protest at work. Most of us will be punished or fired for doing so. NFL players who think this is helping their cause are misguided. NFL Players who choose this route to make a difference are taking the easy way out. The NFL is afraid to make a policy. I wonder how the NFL would feel if all the police and security at the games decided to protest and go on strike at halftime of every NFL game for the season opener? A scary thought. Our police and our military are far more important then any off these players or any NFL game. Lets just hope they don't decide to "protest" while at work too. After all, it is their right! First of all, you are correct in saying that police and military are more important than any NFL player. But, when I think of this topic, I ask myself, "what is the impact of the protest?" The impact of a football player, or someone in the stands, failing to stand for the anthem is zero. The impact of a serviceman failing to protect the people is severe. I am one who stands, removes his hat and places it over his heart for the anthem. That's all I care about. Me. The only one I have control over. What others do - as long as it doesn't have any kind of physical impact on anyone around them - means nothing to me, whether I agree with it, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not trying to validate anything. I'm simply pointing out that 54,000 of your 55,000 posts are links to someone else's words. And the other 1,000 .... Don't post stats about Matthews vs. Watkins or he'll break his own rule and call you a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts