CountDorkula Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Had a great dialogue in the Shout box about this. so the question is: Does culture exist? Does culture have a direct affect on winning/losing? Edited August 17, 2017 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Of course it does. 100% Most people have jumped around to at least a few different jobs during their career. If you had any kind of awareness to your surroundings, you would've noticed that each workplace had a different culture and it affected the employees. Its the same thing in football. Its the same thing with any group of people that work together towards a common goal. Culture affects attitude. Attitude affects performance. Edited August 17, 2017 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This is tricky for me. I believe that it exists (so I voted yes) but I also believe that it's overrated. Talent and coaching win. The culture part to me isn't as much about people getting along as it is an identity. They can identify and insert players that fit that identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Some team that won 5 of the last 17 Super Bowls seems to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This is tricky for me. I believe that it exists (so I voted yes) but I also believe that it's overrated. Talent and coaching win. The culture part to me isn't as much about people getting along as it is an identity. They can identify and insert players that fit that identity. I generally agree. Although I would say coaching aligns closely with culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 This is tricky for me. I believe that it exists (so I voted yes) but I also believe that it's overrated. Talent and coaching win. The culture part to me isn't as much about people getting along as it is an identity. They can identify and insert players that fit that identity. I'd say coaching is a much bigger factor. There's talent everywhere in the NFL. Good leadership, one that establishes a positive and competitive culture, is what makes the difference. (And a good QB... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Absolutely. No coach I've ever had and no CEO I've ever worked for would tell you different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Absolutely. No coach I've ever had and no CEO I've ever worked for would tell you different.This is 100% true.The Patriots have a culture. Once you step out of that established culture you are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 It worked for the Cubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 this is a serious question? the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. yes, I firmly believe in it but a winning culture for the bills has been non existent and the jury is still out on this regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Of course it matters. Culture is the bond that enables a collection of individuals to want to achieve a common goal. It starts with good leadership which proliferates down throughout an organization. Culture establishes the belief system, and it's that system which makes people want to excel. Not for themselves, but for the organization. Is it the ONLY thing that makes success? Of course not, there are many factors, but it is key for virtually all successful organizations; from countries to military to corporations to sports teams. It's important to keep in mind that simply having a common goal is not a culture, and not all culture is good culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 of course. it's certainly a component of a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Great players playing as a team will will produce wins and therefore yield this thing called "Culture". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Of course it does. 100% Most people have jumped around to at least a few different jobs during their career. If you had any kind of awareness to your surroundings, you would've noticed that each workplace had a different culture and it affected the employees. Its the same thing in football. Its the same thing with any group of people that work together towards a common goal. Culture affects attitude. Attitude affects performance. Exactly - it is real and important. Winners usually have the right combination of talent, coaching and culture. Being strong in one are can help offset weakness in others but to be continually successful is to have a good mix of all areas. Having all 3 produce better overall results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 All one has to do is look at NE. When Brady is hurt, they still win at around 70% of the time. And outside of Brady, NE typically isn't a team loaded with stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 All one has to do is look at NE. When Brady is hurt, they still win at around 70% of the time. And outside of Brady, NE typically isn't a team loaded with stars. I think you underestimate the number of really good to excellent players they have on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 All one has to do is look at NE. When Brady is hurt, they still win at around 70% of the time. And outside of Brady, NE typically isn't a team loaded with stars. So when Buffalo shut out NE 19-0 was that because of a lapse in culture or a massive talent downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I think you underestimate the number of really good to excellent players they have on their team. I think they have a lot of good players on their team, but outside of Brady, they aren't quote unquote "stars". They turn decent players from other teams to good players when they are plugged in to their system. ie their slot WR's. They have good solid defensive players, but they aren't "stars". We can quibble over what the word "star" entails, but the point is that outside of Brady, they aren't star studded like some other successful franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I think you underestimate the number of really good to excellent players they have on their team. One could argue that those "really good excellent players" are that way because they're in the right culture system. Brady grew up in it. Would Brady be Brady if he wasn't brought up in that culture? It's an interesting question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 So when Buffalo shut out NE 19-0 was that because of a lapse in culture or a massive talent downgrade. You can't be serious with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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