Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's go on record as to our feelings on the deals today. There are no bs in between answers either. It is a yes or a no. If you were the GM and had the exact same deals on the table would you have made the moves? We are not seperating them out either because they are tied together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Where is the undecided. While i think they were good moves and scheme right and got picks for future. Bills did downgrade the altheticism and explosion from the two positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Abso-damn-lutely. The Bills lost two capable players and brought in two capable players.....all the while adding draft picks. Out !@#$ing standing, Pyle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes. INitially very pissed. Now like it. Has a lot to do with thinking Pats are a lock this year, and possibly next if Brady still plays. Build for when he is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I've come to terms with it, it makes sense long term but i really love Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Where is the undecided. While i think they were good moves and scheme right and got picks for future. Bills did downgrade the altheticism and explosion from the two positions. There is no indifference here!! I'm glad to see you voted. You've had a really interesting perspective lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Where's the "yes, but finish the purge" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 No. Bad trades. Sammy is going to be a superstar. With two ones and a two next year we can get the franchise QB we want without the extra two if that's what they are doing. I wouldn't mind the Darby trade if we didn't do the Sammy one. I would have taken Matthews and a 3 for Darby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Yes!!! Sick of hearing " if" and " but" This isn't a playoff contending team and has no SB shot whatsoever. Draft your young guns together, bring them up together, build a perennial contender. Edited August 11, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Let's go on record as to our feelings on the deals today. There are no bs in between answers either. It is a yes or a no. If you were the GM and had the exact same deals on the table would you have made the moves? We are not seperating them out either because they are tied together. I say no. To evaluate the Watkins trade, I think back to the baffling decision to not exercise his option. If Watkins had his 5th year on his deal, we would've gotten more for him, as we would've been trading a longer rental. The Bills tanked Watkins' value by not exercising it. Then sold low. Idiotic. I personally thought he was an idiot as a person, but a talented idiot. He was arguably our youngest, best player. The exact player you keep in a rebuild, not sell low to the highest bidder. Darby on the other hand is different. Still say no, but if he was not having a good camp, couldn't do much in zones, I get it. As a superb athlete 1 year removed from a great year, I still say no, but I get it. Edited August 11, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 I say no. To evaluate the Watkins trade, I think back to the baffling decision to not exercise his option. If Watkins had his 5th year on his deal, we would've gotten more for him, as we would've been trading a longer rental. The Bills tanked Watkins' value by not exercising it. Then sold low. Idiotic. I personally thought he was an idiot as a person, but a talented idiot. He was arguably our youngest, best player. The exact player you keep in a rebuild, not sell low to the highest bidder. Darby on the other hand is different. Still say no, but if he was not having a good camp, couldn't do much in zones, I get it. As a superb athlete 1 year removed from a great year, I still say no, but I get it. Really good stuff here JMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Abso-damn-lutely. The Bills lost two capable players and brought in two capable players.....all the while adding draft picks. Out !@#$ing standing, Pyle! ....exactly.....and who the hell knows what happens in 2018?.....Sammy is healthy and decent with Rams and Beane signs 'em as a UFA......uh oh............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes. The Watkins deal was particularly good. The team was moving on from him after this season and he didn't want to stay here. We got what will almost certainly be a very high 2nd round pick and a CB who showed real potential in 2014 prior to injury in return. That's stealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes. Heck yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 There is no indifference here!! I'm glad to see you voted. You've had a really interesting perspective lately. The trades make football sense and fits what both have said about how they are building the team so for that i like it. And they actually got good value for both players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the Watkins' trade Would have really like the Darby trade if they kept Watkins. It might be a draw but it makes our WRs so slow. Winner is the bar I'm going to drink away the pain of being a Bills fan. Loser, my girlfriend for having to deal with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It's about time we had some proactive management that has the stones to follow through on their vision instead of plugging and patching the roster with the last guy's junk. Not to mention getting value for a guy that was gone after this year anyways. What a concept! Sure, results may vary long term, but how refreshing it is to sense actual vision from OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I like the thinking behind it. I would have liked a better CB. We needed a starter not a backup caliber player. At first I was shocked. I came inside after mowing the lawn and all hell was breaking loose. Then I stopped to consider everything and Watkins wasn't going to come back and Darby didn't fit the scheme. So I like the trades, I don't love them. If we somehow got a 1st or a starting CB I would probably be doing cartwheels right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Loser, my girlfriend for having to deal with me. That's probably not much different than everyday, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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