DOJ Appoints Robert Mueller as Special Counsel - Jerome Corsi Rejects Plea Deal

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Which reference? I've posted a lot this morning  

You looked at ohrs testimony

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

You looked at ohrs testimony

 

Bruce.

 

**************

 

Yeah, yeah, I know it's Tucker. I know it's Fox. But give this opening segment (which is lengthy) a look. He nails (most of) it.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

All of a sudden there is a flurry of news... almost like some people are trying to get out ahead of what's to come. 

 

And what's to come (first) is the OIG FISA report which I've confirmed is in the hands of many people already. Hearing it's damning. 

 

Oh boy... that's years in prison.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold. 

 

He's pulling your chain. 

I don't think Kemp gives a damn about your (or anyone else's) answers.  His posts can be properly characterized as trolling. 

[DC Tom]

31 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Oh boy... that's years in prison.

 

 

That's a mammothly damning statement.

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

 

That's a mammothly damning statement.

 

Baker's people are 100% certain he'll be cleared... but as someone who has experience with defense attorney's braggadocio, they sure sounded like they were over compensating. 

 

In light of those comments by the Durham (look into his background - and think back to Mueller/Bulger connections), I think they're in damage control. 

Edited January 15, 2019 by Deranged Rhino

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[GG]

49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

Oh boy... that's years in prison.

 

Disappointed that Strassel found Greenwald's piece fascinating.  Wallace's dovishness subjugated hundreds of millions into servitude and tens of millions into early graves.  

 

As I've said before the only difference between Communists and Nazis, is that Communists had/have a better PR firm.

[B-Man]

It’s Not the FBI’s Job to Criminalize Policy Differences.

 

 

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[Nanker]

5 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

You aren't understanding his question.

 

Allow me to translate:

 

"I'm not interested in doing the necessary work of wading through all of the relevant facts and information surrounding the case in order to form an educated position.  I would instead prefer to outsource the work of doing so to a "news agency", who will tell me what to think.  Which such "news agency" should I defer to?"

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[Koko78]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Baker's people are 100% certain he'll be cleared... but as someone who has experience with defense attorney's braggadocio, they sure sounded like they were over compensating.

 

What? You mean defense attorneys are full of schiff when they proclaim, at the outset, that their client is innocent and that they are fully confident that the client will be exonerated?!?

[Tiberius]

Quote

“The Deep State story is nonsense. The Mole in the Oval image, meanwhile, is too extreme — but not as crazy a theory as it was a year or two ago. The president clearly has something to hide. As I have written many times over the past two years, it is highly unlikely that there is any innocent explanation for the remarkable frequency and depth of the Trump coterie’s interactions with Russia for some 30 years, and especially during the campaign.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/13/mounting-evidence-trump-fears-putin-compromising-information-column/2564892002/

[outsidethebox]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/13/mounting-evidence-trump-fears-putin-compromising-information-column/2564892002/

Do you know that's a opinion column? Do you know what they say about opinions? Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one.

 

Go back and try a little harder 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside said:

Do you know that's a opinion column? Do you know what they say about opinions? Opinions are like A-holes, everyone has one.

 

Go back and try a little harder 

LOL, ya, I should be posting tweets from unknown right wing ass freaks, huh? 

[outsidethebox]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

LOL, ya, I should be posting tweets from unknown right wing ass freaks, huh? 

No, there you go again with your "feelz" 

Just don't post opinions as fact. You know,  stop being dishonest. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside said:

No, there you go again with your "feelz" 

Just don't post opinions as fact. You know,  stop being dishonest. 

It's not an opinion that Trump meets in secret with Putin. That's a fact. No one from our team (USA) is even present. 

 

You just don't care. You don't care about your country enough to give a fig. So sad. 

[outsidethebox]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's not an opinion that Trump meets in secret with Putin. That's a fact. No one from our team (USA) is even present. 

 

You just don't care. You don't care about your country enough to give a fig. So sad. 

Proof of what you say. No, opinion columns don't count. 

Stop going by your "feelz" 

You lie so much, do you even know what truth is.

 

Damn, even Alexa is smarter than you. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, westside said:

Proof of what you say. No, opinion columns don't count. 

Stop going by your "feelz" 

You lie so much, do you even know what truth is.

 

Damn, even Alexa is smarter than you. 

See, like I said, you no care. Your attitude: "Trump is more important than the USA" 

 

 

Sad 

[outsidethebox]

Just now, Tiberius said:

See, like I said, you no care. Your attitude: "Trump is more important than the USA" 

 

 

Sad 

Lol, I no care? 

Westside does care. I care alot. Westside no socialist. Westside all american. 

You say mean things. Westside no like you very much.

 

Westside sad?

[Teddy KGB]

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

See, like I said, you no care. Your attitude: "Trump is more important than the USA" 

 

 

Sad 

 

Is the other guy working at the laundromat today getting tired of your rants yet ? 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Is the other guy working at the laundromat today getting tired of your rants yet ? 

Try again. Such a lame insult. Maybe you can do better. Let's see, and go! 

[Teddy KGB]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Try again. Such a lame insult. Maybe you can do better. Let's see, and go! 

 

I’m good.   Go ahead and converse with Maytag and Whirlpool all day again 

 

You should have tried harder in school or developed balls earlier in life 

[B-Man]

FBI interview makes big news—so why is it still secret? by Byron York

Original Article

James Baker — the general counsel of the FBI during both the Clinton email and Trump-Russia investigations — sat for two interviews with House investigators last October. After the sessions — one on Oct. 3, the other Oct. 18 — Republican Rep. Mark Meadows called parts of Baker´s testimony "explosive." Republicans intended to make the interview transcripts public. The questioning was not conducted in a classified setting, and Baker had FBI and other lawyers with him the whole time. But the House still had to send the transcripts to the FBI for clearance       .   JULIE KELLY: The Walls Are Closing in on the FBI—and Its Media Accomplices.       .

Edited January 16, 2019 by B-Man

[Tiberius]

44 minutes ago, B-Man said:

FBI interview makes big news—so why is it still secret? by Byron York

Original Article

James Baker — the general counsel of the FBI during both the Clinton email and Trump-Russia investigations — sat for two interviews with House investigators last October. After the sessions — one on Oct. 3, the other Oct. 18 — Republican Rep. Mark Meadows called parts of Baker´s testimony "explosive." Republicans intended to make the interview transcripts public. The questioning was not conducted in a classified setting, and Baker had FBI and other lawyers with him the whole time. But the House still had to send the transcripts to the FBI for clearance       .   JULIE KELLY: The Walls Are Closing in on the FBI—and Its Media Accomplices.       .

Explosive! Like a Fart! 

 

Yes, the walls are closing in on the traitor 

[Kemp]

On 1/15/2019 at 9:00 AM, snafu said:

 

Did you write that yourself?

Because if you copied it from someplace, you really should provide a link or direct people to your source. 

 

 

 

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/here-s-why-the-united-states-needs-nato

[Kemp]

On 1/15/2019 at 9:29 AM, GG said:

 

Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean there wasn't an answer.

 

I have no idea of what truth you're seeking, because there are varying interpretations of the truth. 

 

What many here have been saying is that one side has consistently been telling a much fuller version of the "truth" because they report on more basic facts that are in the public domain, while the other side is much more selective.  That's why there's deserved piling on to the NYT piece.   Wouldn't you agree that they changed the narrative by a lot when they left out a major factoid that FBI leadership was not certain there were any legs to the Russia collusion theory when they launched their investigation? 

 

In their version, it's perfectly plausible for them to investigate Trump for colluding with Putin.  But when you consider that the upper echelon had misgivings about the theory, then the story changes into a witch hunt.

 

 And please enlighten me of the exact accusation that Trump is guilty of?

 

How many people here rushed to his defense in Trump University or Trump Foundation cases?

 

I asked who is reporting the truth better than the MSM. This is the second time you responded without answering. I keep reading that the MSM is omitting things. Who isn't omitting things in any part of any media? A response to that would at least provide a starting point to discuss. So far, all I've seen here is that Rhino and anonymous sources are disputing the MSM reporting. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

11 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

I asked who is reporting the truth better than the MSM. This is the second time you responded without answering. I keep reading that the MSM is omitting things. Who isn't omitting things in any part of any media? A response to that would at least provide a starting point to discuss. So far, all I've seen here is that Rhino and anonymous sources are disputing the MSM reporting. 

 

 

 

It's been answered three times now. Your schtick is growing old.

[Kemp]

23 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

This now the THIRD time I've answered. 

 

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold. 

 

 

 

 

I looked through this post of yours where you claim to have now answered for a third time. You wrote:

 

"This now the THIRD time I've answered. 

 

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold". 

 

If you answered it here in this post, I don't see it.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Kemp said:

 

I looked through this post of yours where you claim to have now answered for a third time. You wrote:

 

"This now the THIRD time I've answered. 

 

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold". 

 

If you answered it here in this post, I don't see it.

 

You are just admitting you cannot read.

 

You're purposefully ignoring the rest of those quotes... because you're being intentionally obtuse and an asshat.

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

 

I looked through this post of yours where you claim to have now answered for a third time. You wrote:

 

"This now the THIRD time I've answered. 

 

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold". 

 

If you answered it here in this post, I don't see it.

 

I ran this through an online translator (I was going to say "babelfish" but the site no longer exists.  I am disappoint.)

 

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

I'm not interested in doing the necessary work of wading through all of the relevant facts and information surrounding the case in order to form an educated position.  I would instead prefer to outsource the work of doing so to a "news agency", who will tell me what to think.  Which such "news agency" should I defer to?

 

[Deranged Rhino]

9 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

I looked through this post of yours where you claim to have now answered for a third time. You wrote:

 

"This now the THIRD time I've answered. 

 

Either you're being purposefully obtuse or you need to really sharpen your reading comprehension skills by 10 fold". 

 

If you answered it here in this post, I don't see it.

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[GG]

22 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

I asked who is reporting the truth better than the MSM. This is the second time you responded without answering. I keep reading that the MSM is omitting things. Who isn't omitting things in any part of any media? A response to that would at least provide a starting point to discuss. So far, all I've seen here is that Rhino and anonymous sources are disputing the MSM reporting. 

 

 

 

That's not what you asked in the follow up, because "truth" takes on very different meanings.   If you want to know the "truth" about the Russia collusion accusations, then there's no satisfactory answer because the investigation isn't over.  But you knew that.  You're also being intentionally obtuse by lumping all reporters into the "everybody does it camp," when the issue is very specific to a very specific NYT article.

 

Again, use your own brain to determine the truth that you seek.  

 

But take this to heart - which news outlets have continually changed their stories to fit an evolving narrative, and which have stayed fairly consistent to the original story line?

[Tiberius]

There is a ton of evidence out there to at the very least raise serious suspicions Trump is compromised. 

 

If this was a Democratic president he/she would of already been impeached. 

[Kemp]

23 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yes, with the help of the USIC (Brennan/Clapper), FBI (McCabe, Strzok, Comey), State Department (Rice, Power, Kerry), and the Oval Office. 

 

It's not a contention. It's a provable fact backed by more evidence than anything put forward thus far by the "Trump colluded" crowd. 

 

 

This is factually incorrect - but it's been a talking point for so long they've brainwashed you into thinking it's true. 

 

Fusion GPS was hired by Scott Walker to do oppo research on Trump. That is true. They were let go and the information they compiled was dropped. They never hired Steele, they never compiled or even hinted at Russian collusion or conspiracy while they were working for Walker. 

 

The DNC/HRC campaign hired Fusion GPS months later, hired Steele, and the entire dossier was compiled while being paid by the DNC/DCCC/HRC campaigns. 

 

This is a fact, it's not speculation. It's been proven, reproven, and confirmed by all the principles. 

 

 

This document has nothing to do with Trump. It's becoming clear you did not understand what you read in that document. 

 

Do you know what the FISC is and what its duties are?

Are you familiar with the 702 program and what that means, what kind of data it includes? 

Are you familiar with what the DOJ National Security Division and FBI Counterintelligence divisions do?

Are you familiar with the OIG Act of 2016 and why it was necessary -- and how it connects to those two departments?

 

What that document lays out, and it's a document from the FISC itself not political operatives, is that Admiral Rogers uncovered massive abuses of 702 data by the FBI and independent contractors. Meaning, FBI agents and contractors were illegally accessing and using this 702 information without cause for an unknown period of time, likely stretching back years. Over 85% of all 702 quarries from those two departments were found to be illegal. 

 

702 data is the holy grail for those people wishing to collect dirt on an individual. It's every call, text, email, all your metadata, your entire digital life is collected and stored on these NSA servers for later analysis, only when and if a proper warrant is given. These contractors and FBI agents were dipping into this data, without getting a warrant and in the case of the contractors without any oversight by FBI employees, for years prior to the 2016 election.

 

Admiral Rogers discovered a political spying apparatus being used by 44 to spy on every candidate illegally for the purposes of blackmail and tilting the election in the outcome they most desire. This was an operation that Holder and Lynch rewrote laws to protect from oversight by the OIG so they could continue the abuse of the DOJ's two most powerful departments. Rogers not only outted this program in April of 2016, he shut it down and asked the culprits to provide legal explanations for all their prior 702 quarries. 

 

The very next day Glenn Simpson's wife has an unscheduled, hour long meeting with Obama in the Oval. Two days later, Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS are hired by HRC and Nellie Ohr, formerly of CIA, was hired by Simpson. Days after that, Steele was hired. 

 

Their mission was not to do oppo research on Trump. Their mission was to back engineer cause by creating the illusion of conspiracy/collusion with Russians. 

 

Read the entire document. Research for yourself what was outlined above. 

 

This is the origin of the entire narrative. The Obama Whitehouse was caught illegally spying on its political opponents for the purpose of tilting an election by the head of the NSA. 

 

"Scandal free..." if you can cover it all up.

 

What is the goal of the investigation of Trump, in your opinion? If it is to have him removed from office, do you believe Pence is part of the conspiracy against Trump or is he innocent in all this?

 

Who or what is the driving force? This driving force would have to have someone or something pulling the strings. Something this big cannot happen organically.

 

Your contentions remind me of the Bilderberger story. Is it connected?

 

I am beginning to understand your point of view. However, even if you are right, it should seem readily apparent to you that on a separate track Trump has been acting as an ally towards Putin for no readily apparent reason, or do you dispute the existence of this separate track? If you do, it's most difficult to take you as a serious investigator and scholar in the political arena.

 

Is all negative news reported regarding Trump in the MSM fabricated? Is the MSM part of the conspiracy or a useful idiot?

 

Do you similarly believe that Trump's repeated attempts to lessen sanctions on Russia is his view of good policy for America? If you claim he has not attempted to lessen the sanctions, there is no point to going forward with the discussion, for obvious reasons.

 

Sorry, but your stance on all of this leads me to these other related questions.

23 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yes, with the help of the USIC (Brennan/Clapper), FBI (McCabe, Strzok, Comey), State Department (Rice, Power, Kerry), and the Oval Office. 

 

It's not a contention. It's a provable fact backed by more evidence than anything put forward thus far by the "Trump colluded" crowd. 

 

 

This is factually incorrect - but it's been a talking point for so long they've brainwashed you into thinking it's true. 

 

Fusion GPS was hired by Scott Walker to do oppo research on Trump. That is true. They were let go and the information they compiled was dropped. They never hired Steele, they never compiled or even hinted at Russian collusion or conspiracy while they were working for Walker. 

 

The DNC/HRC campaign hired Fusion GPS months later, hired Steele, and the entire dossier was compiled while being paid by the DNC/DCCC/HRC campaigns. 

 

This is a fact, it's not speculation. It's been proven, reproven, and confirmed by all the principles. 

 

 

This document has nothing to do with Trump. It's becoming clear you did not understand what you read in that document. 

 

Do you know what the FISC is and what its duties are?

Are you familiar with the 702 program and what that means, what kind of data it includes? 

Are you familiar with what the DOJ National Security Division and FBI Counterintelligence divisions do?

Are you familiar with the OIG Act of 2016 and why it was necessary -- and how it connects to those two departments?

 

What that document lays out, and it's a document from the FISC itself not political operatives, is that Admiral Rogers uncovered massive abuses of 702 data by the FBI and independent contractors. Meaning, FBI agents and contractors were illegally accessing and using this 702 information without cause for an unknown period of time, likely stretching back years. Over 85% of all 702 quarries from those two departments were found to be illegal. 

 

702 data is the holy grail for those people wishing to collect dirt on an individual. It's every call, text, email, all your metadata, your entire digital life is collected and stored on these NSA servers for later analysis, only when and if a proper warrant is given. These contractors and FBI agents were dipping into this data, without getting a warrant and in the case of the contractors without any oversight by FBI employees, for years prior to the 2016 election.

 

Admiral Rogers discovered a political spying apparatus being used by 44 to spy on every candidate illegally for the purposes of blackmail and tilting the election in the outcome they most desire. This was an operation that Holder and Lynch rewrote laws to protect from oversight by the OIG so they could continue the abuse of the DOJ's two most powerful departments. Rogers not only outted this program in April of 2016, he shut it down and asked the culprits to provide legal explanations for all their prior 702 quarries. 

 

The very next day Glenn Simpson's wife has an unscheduled, hour long meeting with Obama in the Oval. Two days later, Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS are hired by HRC and Nellie Ohr, formerly of CIA, was hired by Simpson. Days after that, Steele was hired. 

 

Their mission was not to do oppo research on Trump. Their mission was to back engineer cause by creating the illusion of conspiracy/collusion with Russians. 

 

Read the entire document. Research for yourself what was outlined above. 

 

This is the origin of the entire narrative. The Obama Whitehouse was caught illegally spying on its political opponents for the purpose of tilting an election by the head of the NSA. 

 

"Scandal free..." if you can cover it all up.

 

Fusion GPS was originally hired by the Republicans. What happened afterwards is a direct result of Trump defeating his Republican rivals. They no longer had a desire to go after Trump because they preferred him to Hillary, so they dropped it.

[TakeYouToTasker]

4 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

What is the goal of the investigation of Trump, in your opinion? If it is to have him removed from office, do you believe Pence is part of the conspiracy against Trump or is he innocent in all this?

 

Who or what is the driving force? This driving force would have to have someone or something pulling the strings. Something this big cannot happen organically.

 

Your contentions remind me of the Bilderberger story. Is it connected?

 

I am beginning to understand your point of view. However, even if you are right, it should seem readily apparent to you that on a separate track Trump has been acting as an ally towards Putin for no readily apparent reason, or do you dispute the existence of this separate track? If you do, it's most difficult to take you as a serious investigator and scholar in the political arena.

 

Is all negative news reported regarding Trump in the MSM fabricated? Is the MSM part of the conspiracy or a useful idiot?

 

Do you similarly believe that Trump's repeated attempts to lessen sanctions on Russia is his view of good policy for America? If you claim he has not attempted to lessen the sanctions, there is no point to going forward with the discussion, for obvious reasons.

 

Sorry, but your stance on all of this leads me to these other related questions.

 

Do you believe holding foreign policy views which differ from those of unipolar globalist corporatists should be criminalized?

[Tiberius]

Unipolars! 

 

 

Love it!