DC Tom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: There's an interesting little blurb in that story: Quote In Clinton’s case, however, the conduct underlying this hypothetical indictment occurred prior to her taking office. The House of Representatives, as far back as 1873, has determined that a person cannot be impeached based on conduct prior to them holding office. In other words, House precedent says a President Hillary Clinton could not be impeached as president for crimes related to the e-mail server or the Clinton Foundation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Oh the hypocrisy about Presidential pardons from the retarded left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, DC Tom said: There's an interesting little blurb in that story: But since she's NOT the president, there's no need for impeachment. So let's just arrest her and be done with it! Lock 'er up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, joesixpack said: But since she's NOT the president, there's no need for impeachment. So let's just arrest her and be done with it! Lock 'er up! Screw that. I say make her walk down a long set of stairs... unassisted. Afterwards, she can take a bath. That would be a fitting punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, njbuff said: Oh the hypocrisy about Presidential pardons from the retarded left. The noose tightens on Trump. That's why he is talking so much about pardons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The noose tightens on Trump. That's why he is talking so much about pardons. It's not, because... Quote In Clinton’s case, however, the conduct underlying this hypothetical indictment occurred prior to her taking office. The House of Representatives, as far back as 1873, has determined that a person cannot be impeached based on conduct prior to them holding office. In other words, House precedent says a President Hillary Clinton could not be impeached as president for crimes related to the e-mail server or the Clinton Foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The noose tightens on Trump. That's why he is talking so much about pardons. Yeah, the noose has been tightened so much that his head should have popped off by now. Gimmie a break with your fruitless rhetoric already You people need to just look at the history of Presidential pardons and shut your goddamn mouth about pardons already. I don't care which President you love or hate over the history of time................ THEY ALL have made controversial pardons. ALL OF THEM. No exceptions. So it is useless to call out Trump on them. It's just another example of you haters finding a reason to continue your hate for someone you can't stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: Yeah, the noose has been tightened so much that his head should have popped off by now. Gimmie a break with your fruitless rhetoric already You people need to just look at the history of Presidential pardons and shut your goddamn mouth about pardons already. I don't care which President you love or hate over the history of time................ THEY ALL have made controversial pardons. ALL OF THEM. No exceptions. So it is useless to call out Trump on them. It's just another example of you haters finding a reason to continue your hate for someone you can't stand. Who has ever pardoned themselves? Or a family member? Or someone who is associated with a crime the president himself may be involved in? Who? 18 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not, because... So he obstructed justice before he was president? What? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who has ever pardoned themselves? Or a family member? Or someone who is associated with a crime the president himself may be involved in? Who? So he obstructed justice before he was president? What? ? There are no words to describe you any more. Does the President have a time machine to do these pardons even before anyone is convicted of anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, njbuff said: There are no words to describe you any more. Does the President have a time machine to do these pardons even before anyone is convicted of anything? Nixon got a pardon and was not convicted of a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So he obstructed justice before he was president? What? ? Sorry, I thought you were talking about "colluding with Russians." You're so half-assed and inchoate about all this, it's hard to know specifically what imaginary bull **** you're talking about at any given moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who has ever pardoned themselves? Or a family member? Or someone who is associated with a crime the president himself may be involved in? Slick pardoned his brother Rodger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 JFK pardoned RFK for !@#$ing Marilyn Monroe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, Nanker said: JFK pardoned RFK for !@#$ - ing Marilyn Monroe. murder ? is that what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, Nanker said: JFK pardoned RFK for !@#$ing Marilyn Monroe. He may have pardoned him but I bet he never forgave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Quote Jim SciuttoVerified account @jimsciutto FollowFollow @jimsciutto Breaking: Special Counsel prosecutors say Paul Manafort was "attempting to tamper with potential witnesses while on pretrial release and, accordingly, has violated the conditions of his release." Quote Jim SciuttoVerified account @jimsciutto FollowFollow @jimsciutto So Manafort sent encrypted messages to former employees to encourage them to make “materially false” claims about his lobbying for pro-Russian Ukrainian politicians. While under house arrest! I read this as Manafort's refusing to cooperate. or 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: I read this as Manafort's refusing to cooperate. or No, he shouldn't have given the cleaning lady he was boning a damaged cashmere sweater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Michael Caputo? edit: Seems it's The Hapsburg Group. Those who read the Manafort & Gates indictments from February should be familiar with that name. In an indictment updated Friday, special counsel Robert S. Mueller III accused Paul Manafort and Rick Gates of secretly retaining “a group of former senior European politicians to take positions favorable to Ukraine, including by lobbying in the United States.” These former European leaders would claim to provide independent assessments of the Kiev government, but would in fact be “paid lobbyists” for Ukraine. In 2012 and 2013, Manafort used at least four offshore bank accounts to wire more than 2 million euros (roughly $2.5 million) to the group, the indictment states. Though the group's members weren't named, they are collectively given an informal nickname: the “Hapsburg group,” an apparent reference (using an alternative spelling) to the Habsburg royal dynasty that ruled the Holy Roman Empire for centuries. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/24/after-hapsburg-group-disclosure-in-mueller-indictment-former-european-politicians-come-under-scrutiny/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.90617fbaef42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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