DOJ Appoints Robert Mueller as Special Counsel - Jerome Corsi Rejects Plea Deal

[Taro T]

51 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

If true it would cut against that thinory on the surface - which is why I wanted to post it. Color me skeptical for the time beingin but I'm willing to change my mind when presented with new evidence.

 

So far, this isn't really evidence of anything - but it's a development worth noting.  

 

Of course it could also play into your theory if those subpoenaed docs prove timelines/ evidence presented by others can't be true.  (Like if they prove that Trump Jr. was at Mar-a-lago when somebody else claims he'd beenin Romania.)  And, as most all the NYT breathless pronouncements haven't been what theyinitially seemed, probably have to see what happens next to figure out if the squirrels finally found a nut (not referring to their readership, btw ; )).

 

But knowing all the D's on his team it would SEEM the focus is switching more towards prior business, which for someone involved w/ NYC real estate for so long would HAVE to involve some sleeze.  You can't go into a sty w/out getting muddy.

 

Of course, as all of this stems from what likely is the poison fruit of the Page FISA application, nothing would be prosecutable it would seem.

[snafu]

They've got nothing on Trump re: collusion.

They're trying to get Trump on past dealings, Manafort-Style.  I think the Manafort charges are the template for going after Trump.  Whether they turn into charges or not is another thing.  Could just be leverage for making Trump give up on investigating/prosecuting the prior administration.  Though the horses are out of the barn, so any deal like that would look pretty transparent. 

 

I'm just speculating of course.  It just looks to me like Mueller is trying to turn this into a "no harm no foul" outcome.  It would be the typical let down result.

 

 

[boyst]

29 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Of course it could also play into your theory if those subpoenaed docs prove timelines/ evidence presented by others can't be true.  (Like if they prove that Trump Jr. was at Mar-a-lago when somebody else claims he'd beenin Romania.)  And, as most all the NYT breathless pronouncements haven't been what theyinitially seemed, probably have to see what happens next to figure out if the squirrels finally found a nut (not referring to their readership, btw ; )).

 

But knowing all the D's on his team it would SEEM the focus is switching more towards prior business, which for someone involved w/ NYC real estate for so long would HAVE to involve some sleeze.  You can't go into a sty w/out getting muddy.

 

Of course, as all of this stems from what likely is the poison fruit of the Page FISA application, nothing would be prosecutable it would seem.

It would poison the well of the GOP come 2020. Maybe even by 2018.

 

That's all that is desired.

[row_33]

33 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

It would poison the well of the GOP come 2020. Maybe even by 2018.

 

That's all that is desired.

 

eventually the RHINOs will realize NOBODY CARES in The Camp about Trump's pecadilloes or amadilloes or turtles and start helping out here...

 

 

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, row_33 said:

 

eventually the RHINOs will realize NOBODY CARES in The Camp about Trump's pecadilloes or amadilloes or turtles and start helping out here...

 

 

 

You're a Russian troll.

[DC Tom]

54 minutes ago, snafu said:

They've got nothing on Trump re: collusion.

They're trying to get Trump on past dealings, Manafort-Style.  I think the Manafort charges are the template for going after Trump.  Whether they turn into charges or not is another thing.  Could just be leverage for making Trump give up on investigating/prosecuting the prior administration.  Though the horses are out of the barn, so any deal like that would look pretty transparent. 

 

I'm just speculating of course.  It just looks to me like Mueller is trying to turn this into a "no harm no foul" outcome.  It would be the typical let down result.

 

 

 

And if they look hard enough, they'll get him on something.  It's impossible to believe he built a real estate empire in Manhattan and a casino empire in Atlantic city in the late-80s/early-90s without paying someone off.

 

But really...he probably never did anything any worse than Whitewater.

[GG]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

 

Of course it could also play into your theory if those subpoenaed docs prove timelines/ evidence presented by others can't be true.  (Like if they prove that Trump Jr. was at Mar-a-lago when somebody else claims he'd beenin Romania.)  And, as most all the NYT breathless pronouncements haven't been what theyinitially seemed, probably have to see what happens next to figure out if the squirrels finally found a nut (not referring to their readership, btw ; )).

 

But knowing all the D's on his team it would SEEM the focus is switching more towards prior business, which for someone involved w/ NYC real estate for so long would HAVE to involve some sleeze.  You can't go into a sty w/out getting muddy.

 

Of course, as all of this stems from what likely is the poison fruit of the Page FISA application, nothing would be prosecutable it would seem.

 

Some of us have been beating the drum on this, and it's all about Trumps business dealings that have absolutely nothing to do with the Presidential campaign.  

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yes sir! That noose around Hillary is getting tighter!! 

 

 

Ha ha ha!! 

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

And if they look hard enough, they'll get him on something.  It's impossible to believe he built a real estate empire in Manhattan and a casino empire in Atlantic city in the late-80s/early-90s without paying someone off.

 

But really...he probably never did anything any worse than Whitewater.

Maybe they won't even have to look very hard. The guy could not get legit loans and went to Russia for money. 

[row_33]

what  a total joke this has turned into

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Worth the read... 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/russia-collusion-real-story-hillary-clinton-dnc-fbi-media/

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Once the enablers of Hillary Clinton compromised their own integrity, they internalized her program of denial and projection. Their own egos are now invested in perpetuating it. To avoid owning up to their shortcomings, they insist, in ever-shriller tones, on the personal integrity of the super spy and the credibility of his reports. The mere acknowledgement of a simple truth — that the “dossier” is junk — would constitute an admission either of deep professional malfeasance or of gob-smacking gullibility.

 

Choose your poison: You duped people and thereby abetted a gross abuse of power; or you were yourself badly duped. That is the dilemma that the lofty-minded now face. The choice is excruciating. It requires abandoning satisfying self-images and embracing painful self-truths — while also handing a well-deserved victory to a hated political enemy. As a consequence, the Steele dossier has proved to be as consequential as it is asinine.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[Tiberius]

20 hours ago, snafu said:

They've got nothing on Trump re: collusion.

They're trying to get Trump on past dealings, Manafort-Style.  I think the Manafort charges are the template for going after Trump.  Whether they turn into charges or not is another thing.  Could just be leverage for making Trump give up on investigating/prosecuting the prior administration.  Though the horses are out of the barn, so any deal like that would look pretty transparent. 

 

I'm just speculating of course.  It just looks to me like Mueller is trying to turn this into a "no harm no foul" outcome.  It would be the typical let down result.

 

 

Impeach him if he was money laundering? 

[Nanker]

20 hours ago, snafu said:

They've got nothing on Trump re: collusion.

They're trying to get Trump on past dealings, Manafort-Style.  I think the Manafort charges are the template for going after Trump.  Whether they turn into charges or not is another thing.  Could just be leverage for making Trump give up on investigating/prosecuting the prior administration.  Though the horses are out of the barn, so any deal like that would look pretty transparent. 

 

I'm just speculating of course.  It just looks to me like Mueller is trying to turn this into a "no harm no foul" outcome.  It would be the typical let down result.

 

 

I think you're right. And "collusion" is not a crime unless they're conspiring to commit a crime. 

 

As I predicted early on, this whole Russian horseshit was a fabrication by FusionGPS to wage a propaganda war against a duly elected POTUS. 

At the end of the day, we'll probably see Mueller reveal Trump's tax returns for the five years prior to his becoming President.

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Nanker said:

I think you're right. And "collusion" is not a crime unless they're conspiring to commit a crime. 

 

As I predicted early on, this whole Russian horseshit was a fabrication by FusionGPS to wage a propaganda war against a duly elected POTUS. 

At the end of the day, we'll probably see Mueller reveal Trump's tax returns for the five years prior to his becoming President.

 

So you agree it could be a Manfort type thing but call the whole thing crap? 

 

You do realize Manafort was deep into Russian stuff like Money laundering etc. and that's how the Russians get assets? 

[boyst]

19 hours ago, GG said:

 

Some of us have been beating the drum on this, and it's all about Trumps business dealings that have absolutely nothing to do with the Presidential campaign.  

Fruit from a poisonous tree will be yuge. And very tested.  

[Deranged Rhino]

On 12/7/2017 at 7:00 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

Even MORE evidence coming in now. This is actually quite major:

 

 

According to a court filing, U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras, who presided over a Dec. 1 hearing where Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his contacts with Russia, will no longer handle the case.

 

Court spokeswoman Lisa Klem did not say why Contreras was recused, and added that the case was randomly reassigned.

 

Reuters could not immediately learn the reason for the recusal, or reach Contreras.

 

An attorney for Flynn declined to comment.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn/judge-presiding-over-michael-flynn-criminal-case-is-recused-court-idUSKBN1E202V?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

 

 

Hmm... Where have I seen that name before? Oh, that's right: 

 

http://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/current-membership

 

Third name on the list. 

 

Do you see what's happening yet? This is the judge who would have cleared the FISA warrant (based on the dossier) to surveil Flynn and Trump's team. He also presided over Flynn's hearing wherein the defense inarguably would have raised this very issue. 

 

Now he's been taken off the case... just as this IG report is about to come out. Betcha that judge will be included in it.

 

Imagine the POWER of the implications of all of this. A judge, playing politics, was in position to give FISA warrants to their allies to surveillance ANYONE they wish legally. That's how you set up a blackmail network. That's how you circumvent any internal investigation. That's how you provide cover for any sort of illicit arms running programs you might set up (let's just say...). It's staggering to think about.  

 

Telling you. The media is way behind. Flynn played them all.

 

Now we know one of the reasons why Contreras was taken off the case... 

 

He was buds with Strzok. 

 

The level of corruption being exposed is staggering... and we're just getting started. 

 

https://saraacarter.com/explosive-text-messages-reveal-judge-in-flynn-case-was-friends-with-strzok/

 

[Deranged Rhino]

More: http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/16/revealed-peter-strzok-had-personal-relationship-with-recused-judge-in-michael-flynn-case/

[Nanker]

39 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you agree it could be a Manfort type thing but call the whole thing crap? 

 

You do realize Manafort was deep into Russian stuff like Money laundering etc. and that's how the Russians get assets? 

Mana!@#$ made his millions working for Tony Podesta - not in working for Trump for two months.

 

The biggest thing to come out of Mueller's investigation will be the red meat he throws to Rachael MadCow - Trump's tax returns, and the sworn testimony of Stormy Daniels. 

Huge hands, I tell ya. Yuuge!

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

Yes, because he knew this before he plead. Why?

 

Because Flynn had to plead guilty to expose all of this stuff. It was his plan. It's his sacrifice. It's why he's going to go down as a hero by the end of this.

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Yes, because he knew this before he plead. Why?

 

Because Flynn had to plead guilty to expose all of this stuff. It was his plan. It's his sacrifice. It's why he's going to go down as a hero by the end of this.

 

A hero to Russia

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, garybusey said:

 

A hero to Russia

 

To you.

 

Just watch. What he did was done to preserve the republic for you and all the people who have shamefully sullied his reputation in the name of partisanship. 

 

[Warren Zevon]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

To you.

 

Just watch. What he did was done to preserve the republic for you and all the people who have shamefully sullied his reputation in the name of partisanship. 

 

 

I'm watching 

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Impeach him if he was money laundering? 

 

Hurry Mueller, Hurry!!!

He's wrecking our country.

It's gonna be too late once old man Mueller finally gets his hands around Trump's neck.

[DC Tom]

11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Yes, because he knew this before he plead. Why?

 

Because Flynn had to plead guilty to expose all of this stuff. It was his plan. It's his sacrifice. It's why he's going to go down as a hero by the end of this.

 

All this coming out today explains why Mueller subpoenaed the Trump Organization yesterday: he's trying to discredit Trump before all this stuff discredits Mueller.  

 

Which then begs the question...who leaked all of this to Mueller early?

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

All this coming out today explains why Mueller subpoenaed the Trump Organization yesterday: he's trying to discredit Trump before all this stuff discredits Mueller.  

 

Which then begs the question...who leaked all of this to Mueller early?

 

I am looking at the NYT report as old news repackaged as new, personally. Until I hear more, there's nothing in that report that was new. 

 

But you're right - someone wanted it out there to beat Trump to the punch. Perhaps not Mueller... 

 

We'll see soon enough. 

[Warren Zevon]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

All this coming out today explains why Mueller subpoenaed the Trump Organization yesterday: he's trying to discredit Trump before all this stuff discredits Mueller.  

 

Which then begs the question...who leaked all of this to Mueller early?

 

Trump did not subpoena the Trump Organization yesterday. The news broke yesterday.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html

 

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization in recent weeks to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known instance of the special counsel demanding records directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

[snafu]

1 minute ago, garybusey said:

 

Trump did not subpoena the Trump Organization yesterday. The news broke yesterday.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/politics/trump-organization-subpoena-mueller-russia.html

 

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization in recent weeks to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known instance of the special counsel demanding records directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

 

Trump has known about this for weeks and hasn't issued one tweet or other statement about the "red line" that Mueller crossed.

I find that interesting.

 

 

[Warren Zevon]

Just now, snafu said:

 

Trump has known about this for weeks and hasn't issued one tweet or other statement about the "red line" that Mueller crossed.

I find that interesting.

 

 

 

Probably because Mueller crossed that line months ago

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, garybusey said:

 

Probably because Mueller crossed that line months ago

 

Or...

[boyst]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Or...

Or

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Boyst62 said:

Or

 

Ore

[thebug]

3 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Ore

Orh

[TakeYouToTasker]

7 minutes ago, thebug said:

Orh

 

[B-Man]

Sorry Andy, no million dollar pension for criminals....................

 

 

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Washington Post‏Verified account @washingtonpost 53m53 minutes ago

FBI's Andrew McCabe is fired just before retiring. Former deputy director became lightning rod for Clinton email and Russia probes.http://wapo.st/2G2EPdO 

[/dev/null]

9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Or...

 

3 hours ago, snafu said:

 

Ore

 

3 hours ago, thebug said:

Orh

 

Ore......

 

Oregon Trail

 

[Wacka]

12 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Sorry Andy, no million dollar pension for criminals....................

 

 

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Washington Post‏Verified account @washingtonpost 53m53 minutes ago

FBI's Andrew McCabe is fired just before retiring. Former deputy director became lightning rod for Clinton email and Russia probes.http://wapo.st/2G2EPdO 

Andy, no soup for you!

[thebug]

The Friday night firing. Typical d-bag Donald! 

[row_33]

That’s gotta suck

[Deranged Rhino]

9 minutes ago, thebug said:

The Friday night firing. Typical d-bag Donald! 

 

Sessions did it. Not Trump. 

 

And he did it on the recommendation of the non partisan Office of Professional Responsibility - who were acting on the findings of the IG. 

 

Indictment for Andy is next. They couldn't knowingly give him a pension when they know (and I think they do) that they're going to indict the guy. 

 

But sure. Make it about Trump if it helps. 

 

[/dev/null]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Indictment for Andy is next.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

 

 

The 90s were weirder than we remember.