Reed83HOF Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) They're not picking. All this does is remind me of Butler's last hurrah here. If Whaley does get dumped after the draft, does this mean that a combination of McD/Pegs/Russ/whoever else is left all called the shots? Not being a turd, I really didn't expect the FO to get the 'heave ho' right now.... Edited April 26, 2017 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 All this does is remind me of Butler's last hurrah here. If Whaley does get dumped after the draft, does this mean that a combination of McD/Pegs/Russ/whoever else is left all called the shots? If this scenario is true, best case is that Mono's is taking the reigns and he has the ability to make his own decisions. From the sounds of Pegula's last interview it's going to be a group effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) I really like Whaley's drafts. They haven't always worked out for us, but at the time of the pick - he generally always found good value. As opposed to reaching for guys like Donte Whitner or Torrell Troup, for example. If he's out, I hope McDermott isn't the type to fall in love with a prospect and pick them earlier than he should. Whaley's drafts have never worked out is what I read...... And witnessed. As for McDermont drafting earlier than he should. I agree ending Nix & Whaleys horrible overvaluing talent then drafting them early. A couple of track stars and a QB among others come too mind. Edited April 26, 2017 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) The good news: ESPN is closing their doors on good journalism as of today. That means we here at TBD are the ONLY ones who know, or will report, any kind of issues going on at OBD. Yes, I just slammed YOU ALL, Buff News/WGR. Leroi, fill us in. Edited April 26, 2017 by Seasons1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Oh boy, this makes me nervous for this upcoming draft. It makes me wonder just how much these scouts (and our GM) will care about getting the picks right. But at the same time, if they do terrible on the picks it may hurt them in trying to get a new job, I guess. If they crap the bed, it will be seen by the entire league. Their (and Whaleys) best bet is to make this the best damn draft we have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 If they crap the bed, it will be seen by the entire league. Their (and Whaleys) best bet is to make this the best damn draft we have ever had. They crapped the bed with the 2016 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) We all hope it is true. I don't, I'd like the revolving door to stop for a minute so we can see what we've got. Also, what kind of good GM candidate will let a coach hire them?? If they go that path I believe it leads to more dysfunction and instability. Ryan's dismissal was the right move. Whaley has produced a winning season. Edited April 26, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 All this does is remind me of Butler's last hurrah here. If Whaley does get dumped after the draft, does this mean that a combination of McD/Pegs/Russ/whoever else is left all called the shots? Not being a turd, I really didn't expect the FO to get the 'heave ho' right now.... No, Chris Brown previously reported that Russ is no longer involved in any football operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 John WawrowVerified account @john_wawrow 18s18 seconds ago John Wawrow Retweeted Geoff Harkins All The AP has noted in story yesterday is that Doug Whaley is on the hotseat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 They're talking about scouts, not the GM. It is still true that if we fire Whaley next week it would be unprecedented. I wonder if there's a chance Pegula just changes Whaley's role to head of pro scouting or something like that. If there was ever a question it should have been taken care of when Rex was fired. Unprecedented? You'll have to back that one up with some hard data, Potsie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Unprecedented? You'll have to back that one up with some hard data, Potsie. You want me to find data on GMs that HAVEN'T been fired after the draft? No that would fall on you to find one that has, or preferably several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 No, Chris Brown previously reported that Russ is no longer involved in any football operations. Leroi, fill us in. Will he survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Oh boy, this makes me nervous for this upcoming draft. It makes me wonder just how much these scouts (and our GM) will care about getting the picks right. But at the same time, if they do terrible on the picks it may hurt them in trying to get a new job, I guess. So the majority of the work that the college scouts do has been done for awhile, likely before McD was even hired. They gave their info to Monos long ago. As far as Whaley, he would like to continue to be employed in the NFL (IF he's on the chopping block) so yes, I think he cares how his draft goes even if it's his last one here. Edited April 26, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) He just writes the contracts as he's told to.. That's like blaming your lawyer for filing your divorce. Associated Press Published: Jan. 31, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Jim Overdorf was promoted to Buffalo Bills senior vice president of football administration, giving him control over contract negotiations and salary cap decisions. Edited April 26, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Will he survive? Oh yeah, thanks again for the PFT link and also thanks again to the great Mike Florio for another scoop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 All this does is remind me of Butler's last hurrah here. If Whaley does get dumped after the draft, does this mean that a combination of McD/Pegs/Russ/whoever else is left all called the shots? Not being a turd, I really didn't expect the FO to get the 'heave ho' right now.... No not Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 You want me to find data on GMs that HAVEN'T been fired after the draft? No that would fall on you to find one that has, or preferably several. You used the word, Richie, not me. I presume you've looked at all GM firings over the past 15 years or so and have the hard data that Whaley would be the first one fired after the draft -- right? Because that's what "unprecedented" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 You want me to find data on GMs that HAVEN'T been fired after the draft? No that would fall on you to find one that has, or preferably several. outside looking in, it doesn't look good for DW, no matter what data you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 You used the word, Richie, not me. I presume you've looked at all GM firings over the past 15 years or so and have the hard data that Whaley would be the first one fired after the draft -- right? Because that's what "unprecedented" means. Definitely not unpredented. There are other cases. http://www.denverpost.com/2012/05/07/broncos-gm-brian-xanders-agree-to-part-ways-after-four-years-in-denver/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Dumb. 10th and 12th in points on offense the past two years. 4th in points on defense in 2014. Whaley is far from perfect, but I think he's certainly above average. He's brought enough talent to the team, they just need a coach that doesn't suck. Hopefully McDermott is that man, but now it looks like they're blowing up the front office. I know that's what most want, but I don't think it's the right step. Stop Whaley from trading picks to move up, force him to address the QB position, and then let him do what he's been doing. Edited April 26, 2017 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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