HT02 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) What?!? Jeezus, I don't understand what goes through some of your minds. That's a little over the top don't you think? You find it impossible to even think that an obviously hard-nosed, no nonsense coach and a player with a history of speaking his mind and having public spats with a coach are not getting along? You're right that is crazy Edited April 5, 2017 by HT02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 For all the pissing and moaning that happened here about McCoy missing these workouts, a lot of you are in no position to complain about this article. That's a little over the top don't you think? You find it impossible to even think that an obviously hard-nosed, no non-sense coach and a player with a history of speaking his mind and having public spats with a coach are not getting along? You're right that is crazy He had public spats about a coach that destroyed a franchise, traded it's cornerstone players for peanuts, and got fired from two franchises in the span of two years. Perspective baby. Have some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 ...veteran leaders "lead" by example, especially with a new regime.....divas pull the "Iverson card".....have ZERO use for mega million divas......game was built on guys like Billy Shaw leaving his full time cement mixing job to play for Bflo at a whopping 18 grand a year and then went back to his full time job...couldn't retire until 66 because that's when his Social Security kicked in...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 For all the pissing and moaning that happened here about McCoy missing these workouts, a lot of you are in no position to complain about this article. He had public spats about a coach that destroyed a franchise, traded it's cornerstone players for peanuts, and got fired from two franchises in the span of two years. Perspective baby. Have some. Wow I wish I were as cool and smart as you, coming up with conversation ending lines like that. Despite being "put in my place" I'll respond. To recap: I originally write that I get the sense that there is some tension brewing between the Bills and McCoy based on the subtle digs I when I read McDermott's statements about McCoy not attending the voluntary work out and McCoy's prior vague statements that seemed to indicate he was leaving. I didn't take sides with either the coach or the player, I don't know enough about what is really going at 1 BD to do that. Someone over reacted to my post as if it was INSANE to speculate on that. In reply I pointed out that McDermott seems to be a "no-nonsense" my way or the highway guy and McCoy has been pretty outspoken. It is certainly possible that they might not be seeing eye to eye. Again not blaming anyone just throwing out a suspicion or speculation which I hope is incorrect. Can we have conversations and express opinions without the drama and personal attacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 yes. I think he did too. Can't be.....just CAN'T BE! Do you think McDermott doesn't know what "voluntary" means! And why are you getting so worked up about stretching yoyo? It's just stretching...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 ....Bruce "Mo Money" Smith is old news...let's talk about NOW and ending the 17 year drought..........NOW it is 5 months until opening day. Even if it rains every night at the strip club getting all worked up because Shady isn't stretching with the boys is pretty sad. When it's time to cut on a dime, Mr McCoy will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Yeah but when is it OK to start expecting the expected from players? Like I said, hopefully he shows up tomorrow. Just not a good look to start. When they unnecessarily extended him I expected he wouldn't be in Buffalo to see the extension years........I still expect that. This no-show just adds that little bit of intrigue to what should have been a fully attended first OTA...........it's a small show of disrespect to the new HC/staff........not much, but something. I don't take it for more than that......but McDermott seems like he wants everyone in the organization on one page......as opposed to past regimes where many exceptions were granted. Can't be.....just CAN'T BE! Do you think McDermott doesn't know what "voluntary" means! And why are you getting so worked up about stretching yoyo? It's just stretching......Will Badol melt down with hot Shady takes ? Stay tuned. Whose yoyo? Wasn't she a rapper in the early 90's ? Edited April 6, 2017 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Wow I wish I were as cool and smart as you, coming up with conversation ending lines like that. Despite being "put in my place" I'll respond. To recap: I originally write that I get the sense that there is some tension brewing between the Bills and McCoy based on the subtle digs I when I read McDermott's statements about McCoy not attending the voluntary work out and McCoy's prior vague statements that seemed to indicate he was leaving. I didn't take sides with either the coach or the player, I don't know enough about what is really going at 1 BD to do that. Someone over reacted to my post as if it was INSANE to speculate on that. In reply I pointed out that McDermott seems to be a "no-nonsense" my way or the highway guy and McCoy has been pretty outspoken. It is certainly possible that they might not be seeing eye to eye. Again not blaming anyone just throwing out a suspicion or speculation which I hope is incorrect. Can we have conversations and express opinions without the drama and personal attacks? did not pick up that vibe here. we all have commentary. We have enough folks who make it personal alrady methinks NOW it is 5 months until opening day. Even if it rains every night at the strip club getting all worked up because Shady isn't stretching with the boys is pretty sad. When it's time to cut on a dime, Mr McCoy will let you know. he surprised me last year for sure. but that aint what this is about. It's Team building it aint just stretching. Thats bs. Shady wants to do his own thing? tis what it tis. but it's something and not nothing he is doing not showing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Will Badol melt down with hot Shady takes ? Stay tuned. Whose yoyo? Wasn't she a rapper in the early 90's ? Cubes' side piece. Don't mess with our yoyo.......don't try to play him out! don't try to play him out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 That's a little over the top don't you think? You find it impossible to even think that an obviously hard-nosed, no nonsense coach and a player with a history of speaking his mind and having public spats with a coach are not getting along? You're right that is crazy Not at all. It's a silly take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Season starts and no Buddy will remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Season starts and no Buddy will remember I have forgotten already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Not at all. It's a silly take. Tough to debate logic like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Tough to debate logic like that I won't debate those who aren't capable of differentiating between facts and wild opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 NOW it is 5 months until opening day. Even if it rains every night at the strip club getting all worked up because Shady isn't stretching with the boys is pretty sad. When it's time to cut on a dime, Mr McCoy will let you know. There is no reason for anyone to get worked up,but if a guy is making 7-8 million a year to play a game, don't you think he should get his ass to voluntary stretches, come on everyone else is present why is he special? Team chemistry is developed like this and you have a lot of new staff on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) that birthday party cake must have those candles that keep relighting Edited April 7, 2017 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 that birthday party cake must have those candles that keep relighting It's more of a "birth-week", really. Common practice for people from Harrisburg, PA area. Amish thing.....like rumspringa etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I won't debate those who aren't capable of differentiating between facts and wild opinions. So you know for a fact that McCoy is happy with the Bills and vice versa? You clearly don't know what a fact is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 he surprised me last year for sure. but that aint what this is about. It's Team building it aint just stretching. Thats bs. Shady wants to do his own thing? tis what it tis. but it's something and not nothing he is doing not showing up Ever tried to make a horse drink? There is no reason for anyone to get worked up,but if a guy is making 7-8 million a year to play a game, don't you think he should get his ass to voluntary stretches, come on everyone else is present why is he special? Team chemistry is developed like this and you have a lot of new staff on hand. you know what they say about expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 mccoy is a phenomenal talent, but is a total low life. that party he threw a few years back where he wanted to dress the women attending was a major reveal. that's all you really need to know, but it's nice of him to do something wack every once and a while just to remind us. like i said though, phenomenal talent, and probably the best player on the team last year - dude has a lot of leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Ever tried to make a horse drink? you know what they say about expectations? I walked a reluctant horse to pasture once. scared the begeebus out of me. what do the say about expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 mccoy is a phenomenal talent, but is a total low life. that party he threw a few years back where he wanted to dress the women attending was a major reveal. that's all you really need to know, but it's nice of him to do something wack every once and a while just to remind us. like i said though, phenomenal talent, and probably the best player on the team last year - dude has a lot of leverage. Yes, I agree with you Johnwalter. Having the ability to dress the women attending his party is a TALENT within itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 He's the 2nd highest paid RB in the league. How was this even considered a question? Guaranteed dollars of course being a major issue at times- recall he demanded the new deal when under a hefty contract already. As a RB of a certain age he could've been looking at signing one more deal before 30... just spitballing the could have and why some might discuss it,not asserting it's what was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 So you know for a fact that McCoy is happy with the Bills and vice versa? You clearly don't know what a fact is. So far the only piece of information to even remotely suggest otherwise is that Shady missed a voluntary workout to celebrate his child's birthday. Shady has publicly supported McD, and McD has publicly supported Shady. Shady is extremely well compensated. Now, you tell me why I shouldn't critique your take as silly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Minicamps are right around the corner for NFL teams. OTA offseason workouts: May 16-18, May 23-25, June 5-8 Voluntary minicamp: April 18-20 Mandatory minicamp: June 13-15 Lets see who shows up and who doesn't. Then I might actually worry about missing players. Edited April 10, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) shady to busy to come to voluntary but has time to throw shade at kiko LeSean McCoy calls Alonso a bum in Instagram battle http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19124618/lesean-mccoy-calls-kiko-alonso-bum-instagram Edited April 10, 2017 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 shady to busy to come to voluntary but has time to throw shade at kiko LeSean McCoy calls Alonso a bum in Instagram battle http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19124618/lesean-mccoy-calls-kiko-alonso-bum-instagram Radio-hot take by Shady...........he's going to be good with former Eagle and 2x all pro DE Hugh Douglas on 92.9 The Game sports talk radio station in Atlanta, GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 He's right. Second best trade the Bills made behind Hughes for Sheppard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2017 Cap Hit shady $8.9 mil kiko $2.9 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 shady to busy to come to voluntary but has time to throw shade at kiko LeSean McCoy calls Alonso a bum in Instagram battle http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19124618/lesean-mccoy-calls-kiko-alonso-bum-instagram Shady's a good Bill... but a little immature at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Shady's a good Bill... but a little immature at times. i think you can replace "little immature" with "massive douche." but as you alluded to: absurdly talented, best player on the team last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2017 Cap Hit shady $8.9 mil kiko $2.9 mil What about 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDS73 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 So far the only piece of information to even remotely suggest otherwise is that Shady missed a voluntary workout to celebrate his child's birthday. Shady has publicly supported McD, and McD has publicly supported Shady. Shady is extremely well compensated. Now, you tell me why I shouldn't critique your take as silly? Is that the same child that he abandoned several years ago? The same child that he basically labeled as a mistake on twitter for the whole world to see? The same child he wasn't paying child support for until the child's mother called him out for it? That child? He either finally decided to take a more active role in the kid's life, or he just uses the kid's birthday as a convenient excuse to dodge other responsibilities. Gun to my head and forced to bet which, I know what my money would be on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What about 2018? year / shady cap / kiko cap 2015 / $5.5 / $0.8 2016 / $7.7 / $0.8 2017 / $8.9 / $2.9 2018 / $8.9 / $9.7 2019 / $9.0 / $8.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 So far the only piece of information to even remotely suggest otherwise is that Shady missed a voluntary workout to celebrate his child's birthday. Shady has publicly supported McD, and McD has publicly supported Shady. Shady is extremely well compensated. Now, you tell me why I shouldn't critique your take as silly? This would be most welcome as the worst story about Shady this offseason. And it's not worthy of bother in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 what's my point ?.....several #1- the shady trade is not a lopsided win for the bills. #2- shady is a superstar. IMO last years best player on team. he is earning his high salary. #3 - I don't like investing franchise tag money for a RB. taking salary cap into consideration for the first 3 years, that trade was shady for kiko AND any $6mil/yr free agent (lets use Richie incognito at $5 mil) which is a better use of salary cap....all your eggs in one basket with a legit $8mil/yr superstar or spread the salary cap and risk of injury over several players ...say kiko, gilislee & Richie combined under $8 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 @salsports Bills RB LeSean McCoy was back in Buffalo for voluntary conditioning with the team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 @salsports Bills RB LeSean McCoy was back in Buffalo for voluntary conditioning with the team today. I heard he sat out the session though... in order to focus on his IG war with the Chef Kiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I heard he sat out the session though... in order to focus on his IG war with the Chef Kiko. Stop listening to Leroi; even La Conjecture stopped taking his calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Stop listening to Leroi; even La Conjecture stopped taking his calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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